Prospect Info: All-Purpose 2024 Draft Thread & Celebrini discussion (also the 14th pick and whatever else is draft related)

[TheBeard]

Pretty much, but it's good to get the interview portion of the pageant combine. I know they're all trying to be careful with their answers but Macklin seems to be actually be going into this with a decent attitude.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799504108904227153

 

[LilLeeroy]

After the combine I'm preparing myself for Eiserman at 14. Could just be the Morehouse and Eiserman interviews being right next to each other but it almost sounded like they were talking about each other in it.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The board will have to fall the perfect way, I think, for one of the top 6 D or helenius to be available at 14. Emery and Solberg seem to have solidified themselves as the next tier with Jiricek and are likely to be gone in the 20s it seems. Elick and Badinka could be available at 33, but they at least as of now aren't in the same tier as the other two.

I agree that moving to 10 or 12 would be awesome but it seems like we don't have what NJ or Philly would want. Or Buffalo for that matter. At this point I'm guessing (with low confidence) that we end up making all those picks.

It'll be interesting if we draft a goalie who we draft. Nabokov sounds the most ready but maybe not the highest ceiling. Others seem higher ceiling but big projects. Generally a weak class. I have no clue how we'll think about goalies.

Possibly. It all depends on how one sees the teams ahead of us going. If Demidov, Lindstrom, Iginla, Catton, the top six defensemen, and Helenius are all off the board before 14, there'll be a choice between Eiserman, Sennecke, and MBN. Either of them would be a perfectly fine 14th overall pick though I'd prefer MBN first, Sennecke, second, and Eiserman third. I can live with standing pat on a choice like that.

If Solberg and/or Emery are now in Jiricek's tier, it means that someone like Mews or Badinka or Elick or Kiviharju or Hutson are available at 33. I find it difficult to believe that all 8 of these defensemen get taken before 33. I'm perfectly content with any of those as choices at 33. If so, I would also be okay with taking a chance on someone like Letourneau or Beaudoin or Luchanko. They'll still get a good pick at these levels with the possible exception of 42. Even there, it's certainly possible for someone they want to drop but it's also fine to take it on a goalie if they won't make it to 85. There's plenty of leeway on what you can do with the 2nd rounders.

 

[sharski]

The whole psychoanalysis job interview thing has gotten way out of hand

Why do I need to know someone's most traumatic childhood experience to know if they can put the proverbial biscuit in the metaphorical basket

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

Konsta Helenius @14?

 

[Star Platinum]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799540504377373172

Is there any more useless measure for a hockey player than vertical jump?

 

[LadyStanley]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799504108904227153

Not sure how Uber works, but as a former Lyft driver, the pax rating is how they are perceived as a passenger. Are they courteous to the driver (thank you, tips)? Are they demanding (to the letter of the ride contract and/or pushing beyond)? Make the driver wait "forever" to get to the car (before the app had a timer to allow driver to leave if pax didn't show)?

I would give 1s to guys who had no concern for others with extreme BO or reeking of smoke (which activated my sinuses badly). Or who left the backseat a mess after a ride.

 

[Star Platinum]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799504108904227153

 

[Jargon]

After the combine I'm preparing myself for Eiserman at 14. Could just be the Morehouse and Eiserman interviews being right next to each other but it almost sounded like they were talking about each other in it.

What did they say? Obviously there are red flags around the kid but I’m still kind of enthralled by the potential.

 

[themelkman]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799504108904227153

I saw another tweet that said they also asked one kid his snapchat score which is hilarious but I kinda get it

 

[one2gamble]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799504108904227153

If you know anything about Patrick Kane, this question makes perfect sense

 

[Barrie22]

Yes, the interviews are definitely the most important part. The physical stuff is interesting but probably only good for identifying outliers as a marginal input to the evaluation. Would be interesting to be a fly on the wall for teams, to see how much they incorporate the results.

I would not be surprised if someone did a study for the lower ranked players that will be project players, that the better they do at the combine leads to better chances of making the NHL later on.

 

[LadyStanley]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799618563831160865

Sharks apparently talked with 70 prospects at combine. Took Macklin out for dinner.

 

[TheBeard]

If you know anything about Patrick Kane, this question makes perfect sense

Ahem… that was a cab, sir

 

[Barrie22]

If you know anything about Patrick Kane, this question makes perfect sense

That is just every day normal life for hawk players/coaches/management. If you aren't a criminal you aren't welcome in Chicago.

 

[coooldude]

Possibly. It all depends on how one sees the teams ahead of us going. If Demidov, Lindstrom, Iginla, Catton, the top six defensemen, and Helenius are all off the board before 14, there'll be a choice between Eiserman, Sennecke, and MBN. Either of them would be a perfectly fine 14th overall pick though I'd prefer MBN first, Sennecke, second, and Eiserman third. I can live with standing pat on a choice like that.

If Solberg and/or Emery are now in Jiricek's tier, it means that someone like Mews or Badinka or Elick or Kiviharju or Hutson are available at 33. I find it difficult to believe that all 8 of these defensemen get taken before 33. I'm perfectly content with any of those as choices at 33. If so, I would also be okay with taking a chance on someone like Letourneau or Beaudoin or Luchanko. They'll still get a good pick at these levels with the possible exception of 42. Even there, it's certainly possible for someone they want to drop but it's also fine to take it on a goalie if they won't make it to 85. There's plenty of leeway on what you can do with the 2nd rounders.

Mews, Badinka, Elick, Kiviharju may all be available at 33, and if so I hope it's Badinka or Elick. But none of those players are currently being seen as the same caliber of prospect as Jiricek, Emery, or Solberg.

Letorneau keeps getting mocked in the late 1st so I doubt he's available at 33. Beaudoin, I just don't know. He tested well physically.

FWIW, rumor mill is now in effect and sounds like Yak won't likely fall to us, as Philly is rumored to like him. Catton rumored to go "after 7". Elick maybe won't get past the Rangers at 30. Anything can happen of course.

Utah and Toronto Found a Draft Edge – Sportsology

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[DG93]

Konsta Helenius @14?

Yes, assuming that Silayev, Dickinson, Lindstrom, Buium, Igilna, Sennecke, and Parekh all go top-10 as expected, and one of Catton/Yamekchuk/Helenius drop to 14, you take any one of them. The Sharks are not in a position to think about positional need. They can always stick Catton on Will Smith's wing or Helenius at 3C to have a monster Macklin-Smith-Helenius center group. Yakemchuk is also a clear fit at RD in the top-4. And then obviously if anyone else (Sennecke, Igilna, Parekh, etc.) somehow drops to 14, you take them too

The real question imo is if those 10 prospects (+ Macklin, Levshunov, Demidov 1-3 of course) go 4-13, then what do the Sharks do at 14.

 

[Lebanezer]

Yes, assuming that Silayev, Dickinson, Lindstrom, Buium, Igilna, Sennecke, and Parekh all go top-10 as expected, and one of Catton/Yamekchuk/Helenius drop to 14, you take any one of them. The Sharks are not in a position to think about positional need. They can always stick Catton on Will Smith's wing or Helenius at 3C to have a monster Macklin-Smith-Helenius center group. Yakemchuk is also a clear fit at RD in the top-4. And then obviously if anyone else (Sennecke, Igilna, Parekh, etc.) somehow drops to 14, you take them too

The real question imo is if those 10 prospects (+ Macklin, Levshunov, Demidov 1-3 of course) go 4-13, then what do the Sharks do at 14.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Demidov get the Michkov treatment this draft.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yes, assuming that Silayev, Dickinson, Lindstrom, Buium, Igilna, Sennecke, and Parekh all go top-10 as expected, and one of Catton/Yamekchuk/Helenius drop to 14, you take any one of them. The Sharks are not in a position to think about positional need. They can always stick Catton on Will Smith's wing or Helenius at 3C to have a monster Macklin-Smith-Helenius center group. Yakemchuk is also a clear fit at RD in the top-4. And then obviously if anyone else (Sennecke, Igilna, Parekh, etc.) somehow drops to 14, you take them too

The real question imo is if those 10 prospects (+ Macklin, Levshunov, Demidov 1-3 of course) go 4-13, then what do the Sharks do at 14.

If it goes Levshunov, Demidov, Silayev, Dickinson, Lindstrom, Buium, Iginla, Sennecke, Parekh, Catton, Yakemchuk, and Helenius as the first 13, you have MBN and Eiserman as their choice. Either would be a solid choice for the spot and MBN should be the preferred prospect.

 

[The Nemesis]

The whole psychoanalysis job interview thing has gotten way out of hand

Why do I need to know someone's most traumatic childhood experience to know if they can put the proverbial biscuit in the metaphorical basket

It's very important to understand players' mindsets.

If I was there I would ask each of them what their favorite dinosaur was and if they didn't say stegosaurus (the only objectively correct choice) I would put them on a do-not-draft list because they're clearly deranged sociopaths who will be unable to act properly in a structured team environment.

Right now I can see some of you saying "but my favorite dinosaur is actually <insert something that isn't a stegosaurus>" and I'll thank you for proving my point

 

[Friday]

From the newest Peng article:

Up front, they talked to, in alphabetical order, forwards Cole Beaudoin, Kamil Bednarik, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard, Berkly Catton, EJ Emery, Cole Eiserman, Michael Hage, Konsta Helenius, Emil Hemming, Jett Luchanko, Julius Miettinen and Marek Vanacker.

On the backend, the Sharks interviewed defensemen Gabriel Eliasson, Alfons Freij, Cole Hutson, Adam Jiricek, Stian Solberg, Veeti Väisänen and Carter Yakemchuk.

Definitely some good insight into who they're thinking at 14 and 33/ 42

 

[coooldude]

From the newest Peng article:

Up front, they talked to, in alphabetical order, forwards Cole Beaudoin, Kamil Bednarik, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard, Berkly Catton, EJ Emery, Cole Eiserman, Michael Hage, Konsta Helenius, Emil Hemming, Jett Luchanko, Julius Miettinen and Marek Vanacker.

On the backend, the Sharks interviewed defensemen Gabriel Eliasson, Alfons Freij, Cole Hutson, Adam Jiricek, Stian Solberg, Veeti Väisänen and Carter Yakemchuk.

Definitely some good insight into who they're thinking at 14 and 33/ 42

Well, yes, but I believe they said they interviewed 70 players, so this may just be the confirmed list.

 

[Friday]

Well, yes, but I believe they said they interviewed 70 players, so this may just be the confirmed list.

"Finally, from a variety of sources, SJHN has tracked down about a quarter of the 70-plus prospects that the Sharks interviewed at the combine."

I think you misread? Unless it's from somewhere else. But I think there was only 70 ish prospects there

 

[coooldude]

"Finally, from a variety of sources, SJHN has tracked down about a quarter of the 70-plus prospects that the Sharks interviewed at the combine."

I think you misread? Unless it's from somewhere else. But I think there was only 70 ish prospects there

Nope, there were 100 attendees and that right there says "the 70-plus prospects that the sharks interviewed at the combine." So of the 70 prospects they interviewed, SJHN tracked down about a quarter of them (and those were the ones they listed).

 

[Friday]

Nope, there were 100 attendees and that right there says "the 70-plus prospects that the sharks interviewed at the combine." So of the 70 prospects they interviewed, SJHN tracked down about a quarter of them (and those were the ones they listed).

Haha okay Its because I have no reading comprehension. Cheers