All-Inclusive Goalie Discussion--Jones and Scrivens and Bears, Oh My!

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Someone on the main board suggested that Quick is gonna be sent down to Manchester.....


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So what, when Jonathan comes back, will it be Jonathan-Scrivens duo, or him with Jones...?
If it will be John-Jones, will Sutter gave Jones more games or what, anyway, for me this is sweet but complicated situation. :D

What i wanna state is that im not a guy who holds that 1st goalie like Quick should always be 1st goalie, that his spot is brickwalled, and that some flashes like Jones are meaning nothing, because Quick is el numero uno, and thats it.
I mean,there is a chance that Jones is real deal, small, but still a chance, anyway he is young, and maybe he finally reach a level when his talent comes to surface...maybe he needed this step, role of no.1 goalie, so he can prove to himself that he can do it.

For example, Hiller, Fasth at our team...Andersen shows some sick games, and if Andersen countinues to play like this, i have no problem of him beeing next no.1 goalie...i would take a shot and try him, maybe he has something more in his packets than Hiller, Fasth.
 
It's everyone else's fault but Quick's. Got it. :laugh:

That's not what I was saying. At all. My comment was barely about Quick, actually.

Quick wasn't at his best early in the season, but the defense was a very error-prone early on. Not just the usual whipping boys (Regehr, Muzzin) but Doughty and Voynov too were guilty of sloppy play with and without the puck too. So, Quick was facing more Grade A scoring chances than Scrivens/Jones have been recently.

The whole team, in my opinion, stepped up their game and effort when Quick was placed on IR.
 
What you don't get on TV is the way the fans are going crazy for Jones in Staples. Multiple standing ovations and big-time cheering every time he makes a save. I don't think I've done that, ever. Last night was very special.

He's the most popular King right now. Bar none.
 
So what, when Jonathan comes back, will it be Jonathan-Scrivens duo, or him with Jones...?
If it will be John-Jones, will Sutter gave Jones more games or what, anyway, for me this is sweet but complicated situation. :D

What i wanna state is that im not a guy who holds that 1st goalie like Quick should always be 1st goalie, that his spot is brickwalled, and that some flashes like Jones are meaning nothing, because Quick is el numero uno, and thats it.
I mean,there is a chance that Jones is real deal, small, but still a chance, anyway he is young, and maybe he finally reach a level when his talent comes to surface...maybe he needed this step, role of no.1 goalie, so he can prove to himself that he can do it.

For example, Hiller, Fasth at our team...Andersen shows some sick games, and if Andersen countinues to play like this, i have no problem of him beeing next no.1 goalie...i would take a shot and try him, maybe he has something more in his packets than Hiller, Fasth.

The situations are honestly surprisingly similar except that Quick maybe had solidified himself as a #1 more than anyone on the Ducks imo. However, similarly, the simple move would be send Jones down and run Quick/Scrivens until the end of the season or until Scrivens is moved. Similar to Hiller/Fasth with Andersen, but we don't have a Gibson coming up so it's less urgent to create space (you can make the case for Berube maybe).
 
So what, when Jonathan comes back, will it be Jonathan-Scrivens duo, or him with Jones...?
If it will be John-Jones, will Sutter gave Jones more games or what, anyway, for me this is sweet but complicated situation. :D
We need a goalie named Paul
 
I'm not going to say that Jones won't eventually replace Quick just yet.

We'll know better once Jones signs his new contract.

The term and the amount of his new deal should be telling as to whether Quick gets moved.
 
What you don't get on TV is the way the fans are going crazy for Jones in Staples. Multiple standing ovations and big-time cheering every time he makes a save. I don't think I've done that, ever. Last night was very special.

He's the most popular King right now. Bar none.

^This is interesting to me. At the Colorado game about a month ago, the attitude towards Scrivens (both in the intros, and during the game itself) seemed rather tepid (and this was near the end of the term where he was playing absolutely lights-out). I wonder why the disparity...?
 
How many more games before Jones has enough minutes to qualify on the GAA leaders board? How is that calculated?
 
How many more games before Jones has enough minutes to qualify on the GAA leaders board? How is that calculated?


At the moment Lindback is last (47th) in TOI category with 598 minutes played (11 games, 9 starts).
Two more starts for Jones than? :huh:
 
One not great thing about the goalie situation right now, is that it's tough for other GMs to get a accurate read on how good any of the goaltenders are but Quick - who's established.

I think it's fair to say both Scrivens and Jones are good . . . But how good? It's looking like LA's defense and system has a hand in how good things are looking.

Again, not taking anything away from what is happening at all - much emphasis to this . . . But because of how good all of the goalies are appearing my bet is that a large sample size is going to be required before another GM offers a sweet package for one of these goaltenders. That's just my gut feeling.

But man, really loving what Jones is doing. Something beyond special indeed. Actually this extends to the whole defense, system and goaltending - everything.
 
One thing to keep in mind is the defense has had nothing to do with Jones stopping 12 straight shoutout attempts. The defense is a big part, but Jones is out of his mind right now.
 
Yesterday game was pretty pleasant to watch. Jones messed up on the goal where the puck popped out of this glove but otherwise, it was a pleasure to watch Varlamov and Jones compete. Very solid goaltending, Varlamov made a pretty big glove save in the third on Colin Fraser if I remember right. Stoked to see Jones carry on his winning streak.
 
^This is interesting to me. At the Colorado game about a month ago, the attitude towards Scrivens (both in the intros, and during the game itself) seemed rather tepid (and this was near the end of the term where he was playing absolutely lights-out). I wonder why the disparity...?

The place was pretty loud. Don't know why the disparity between TV and the arena.
 
I'm not going to say that Jones won't eventually replace Quick just yet.

We'll know better once Jones signs his new contract.

The term and the amount of his new deal should be telling as to whether Quick gets moved.
Quick injury is not a small one.
Groin is heavilly stressed in some situation, so his operation isnt like, it will be ok,nothing to worry about.
 
On the business side of things, Scrivens would be the odd man out by default, simply because he's an expiring contract and worse, painful losses vs NJ (@home), SJ (@SJ), Buffalo (@BUF), and Chicago (@CHI) would be counted against him.
 
It is funny that you can sense some fear what will happen when Quick returns. Like "he need to take time as much as possible to heal himself and not force his returno to soon". :naughty:
 
It is funny that you can sense some fear what will happen when Quick returns. Like "he need to take time as much as possible to heal himself and not force his returno to soon". :naughty:

You go with the hot hand. Or, in this case, hot glove.

I play Jones until he goes 25-1. Then I find a gold mine and lock this kid up for 25 years, a la Magic Johnson.*

*For those of you too young to remember, or do not know what I am talking about, the Lakers locked up Johnson on a 25 year contract in 1981, shocking the sports world at its length and cost. $1 million per year at the time was unheard of, and given the length, was shocking at the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/26/sports/magic-johnson-signs-25-million-contract.html
 
You go with the hot hand. Or, in this case, hot glove.

I play Jones until he goes 25-1. Then I find a gold mine and lock this kid up for 25 years, a la Magic Johnson.*

*For those of you too young to remember, or do not know what I am talking about, the Lakers locked up Johnson on a 25 year contract in 1981, shocking the sports world at its length and cost. $1 million per year at the time was unheard of, and given the length, was shocking at the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/26/sports/magic-johnson-signs-25-million-contract.html

Why the one loss? :laugh:

That contract would be shocking at any time. 25 years. Wouldn't the current player/league agreement prevent such a long contract?
 

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