Confirmed with Link: All Encompassing Arena Talk: Meruelo focused on winning auction, but now may be looking for buyers (in and out of state)

[Edenjung]

attention to the wording when the auction gets announced. Says that there may be a possibility that the wording states that if you buy the land, you have to build an NHL arena. Have to think that would favor us.

Doesn't that open an angle for suit?

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Doesn't that open an angle for suit?

Don't see how it would. You'd see threats of a lawsuit if, say, the Coyotes were trying to get public money to pay for development or even subsidize the cost of the land purchase, but as the owner of the state land, it's up to Phoenix to designate what the land should be used for if sold. In fact, it's a necessary element, to my way of thinking, so that a potential buyer doesn't promise to build one type of development on the lot, and then after winning the auction tries to build something completely different.

 

[Edenjung]

I mean couldn't a potential other bidder file a suit if they phrase it like that?
Because this would not seem like an open auction anymore.
Atleast it does to me.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

I just know how they will react.

Can confirm.

 

[RABBIT]

I mean couldn't a potential other bidder file a suit if they phrase it like that?
Because this would not seem like an open auction anymore.
Atleast it does to me.

I’m not heavily involved in municipality rules and regulations, but that being said, wouldn’t it be the state’s choice to put any stipulations they see fit on land up for auction?

It may not be as simple as I’m about to lay it out but the way I look at it is if I had some I’m hosting an auction for, I should be able to qualify my buyers in anyway I deem suitable.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I mean couldn't a potential other bidder file a suit if they phrase it like that?
Because this would not seem like an open auction anymore.
Atleast it does to me.

It's still an open auction - it's just that if Meruelo were somehow outbid, the winning bidder would have to build an NHL arena on the land...

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

Great minds don't stick rings in their noses but I don't think that's the point anyway. If the release of the renderings was a mistake, it is on Xavier and Alex, regardless of who pushed the buttons.

A high school classmate of my son's just graduated from MIT last May at the top of her class with a double major in Astrophysics and Aerospace Engineering with a...wait for it...gold ring in her nose. So yeah, in today's world, great minds do.

“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!”
Folks, I like the pics, but, call me cynical, I’m not buying one bit of it at this point !

I'm with ya. Pretty pictures and all, but there's many a slip betwixt the cup and the lip.

 

[rt]

Damn

Because you’re too good for her, man. Don’t sell yourself short.

I mean couldn't a potential other bidder file a suit if they phrase it like that?
Because this would not seem like an open auction anymore.
Atleast it does to me.

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U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

 

[The Feckless Puck]

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
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Speaking of which, if Meruelo wins the auction, he'd better be on the effing phone to the NCAA re: the Frozen Four, Team USA for Olympics prep, the World Juniors folks, etc. to get their flabby white keisters out to the Hundred Acre Wood and set up shop.

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

Speaking of which, if Meruelo wins the auction, he'd better be on the effing phone to the NCAA re: the Frozen Four, Team USA for Olympics prep, the World Juniors folks, etc. to get their flabby white keisters out to the Hundred Acre Wood and set up shop.

And get on the horn and contact whomever did Mullett's ice-making apparatus or whatever you want to call it. I've skated on it and it's downright dreamy.

 

[Jakey53]

I mean couldn't a potential other bidder file a suit if they phrase it like that?
Because this would not seem like an open auction anymore.
Atleast it does to me.

I believe the state could stipulate what has to be built on any land they sell. Anyone can bid if they agree to those terms.

It's still an open auction - it's just that if Meruelo were somehow outbid, the winning bidder would have to build an NHL arena on the land...

And whatever else the state wants on that land.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Speaking of which, if Meruelo wins the auction, he'd better be on the effing phone to the NCAA re: the Frozen Four, Team USA for Olympics prep, the World Juniors folks, etc. to get their flabby white keisters out to the Hundred Acre Wood and set up shop.

(In my mind that gets changed to "Hundred Acre Scrub".)

 

[DustyDangler]

A high school classmate of my son's just graduated from MIT last May at the top of her class with a double major in Astrophysics and Aerospace Engineering with a...wait for it...gold ring in her nose. So yeah, in today's world, great minds do.

That is intellect for sure and stick taps to her for her accomplishments.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

If indeed that verbiage is in the land use wording, then we'll know for sure that there was some level of... I don't want to say "collusion," but at least an understanding... between Phoenix and Meruelo on this. Because if that is the case, that's as much as gifting the land to Meruelo (albeit with a hefty "convenience charge") in the auction process.

My thoughts as well. Lends some credence to speculation that they would once again be the Phoenix Coyotes as well.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I mean couldn't a potential other bidder file a suit if they phrase it like that?
Because this would not seem like an open auction anymore.
Atleast it does to me.

I don't think it's any different than the Tempe RFP was.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

(In my mind that gets changed to "Hundred Acre Scrub".)

LOL, I've been meaning to tell him there is no woods. I'd go with Miracle in the Desert.... no need to brag about size

 

[AZDesertKnight]

This plan and site should have been choice 1 over TED. Who the heck wants to live under an airport flight path? I mean, really… so many horrible things to overcome. This site is better all round

 

[Schemp]

This plan and site should have been choice 1 over TED. Who the heck wants to live under an airport flight path? I mean, really… so many horrible things to overcome. This site is better all round

No, it's not in my backyard!

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

I don’t think requiring a sports stadium would open it up to a suit, if I owned a big commercial spot and wanted to sell it to someone who’s gonna build the biggest Arby’s in the world, TJ maxxx just won’t have say.

 

[MayDayMayDay]

I don’t think requiring a sports stadium would open it up to a suit, if I owned a big commercial spot and wanted to sell it to someone who’s gonna build the biggest Arby’s in the world, TJ maxxx just won’t have say.

Sorry TJ Maxx, but Arby's has the meats.

Real talk: I just saw the renderings, been at work all day. They look f***ing stunning.

 

[rt]

If the state decides they want bids to include plans for mixed use, including housing, retail, and a sports and entertainment district, with associated professional sports venue, how is that sneaky or wrong in any way? If that’s what they want, that’s what they want. Why would any lawyer or political have a problem with that? This is an America, man.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

If the state decides they want bids to include plans for mixed use, including housing, retail, and a sports and entertainment district, with associated professional sports venue, how is that sneaky or wrong in any way? If that’s what they want, that’s what they want. Why would any lawyer or political have a problem with that? This is an America, man.

Exactly, like they can require what they want and if in some hypothetical scenario the coyotes didn’t want to build an arena, then they wouldn’t submit a bid.

I think we’re all just so used to dick punches that we’re all walking around with our legs shaking waiting for it

 

[MIGs Dog]

If the state decides they want bids to include plans for mixed use, including housing, retail, and a sports and entertainment district, with associated professional sports venue, how is that sneaky or wrong in any way? If that’s what they want, that’s what they want. Why would any lawyer or political have a problem with that? This is an America, man.

Why do governments own land? This is America.

 

[rt]

Why do governments own land? This is America.

It’s a trust. So that schools get funding. Which they need pretty bad right now. Lowest literacy rates since the Great Depression.

USA! USA! USA!

 

[Dirty Old Man]

It’s a trust. So that schools get funding. Which they need pretty bad right now. Lowest literacy rates since the Great Depression.

USA! USA! USA!

Also, all those little eastern states in the erstwhile Northwest Territory and others - full of nothing but arable farmland - are all sold out... Arizona is of course late to the party, relatively, large, and still has a lotta land to play with. Give us time, Mig, we'll be sold out soon enough.