Tell him when he’s telling lies! He actually generates business for the company, Hangman Page does not (as I have been saying for awhile, when ppl tried to claim he was a PPV draw LMAOLOLOLOL). Is he an egomaniac? 100%! He’s also right!Ironically that promo after collision is Punk being a mark for himself lmao biggest man child in pro wrestling is still biggest man child. Shocking development.
I do think it's fair to speculate why Dynamite is down YTY when the rest of wrestling is up.
Doesn't mean the company is in trouble, or dying, or any other garbage.
But people who were watching a year ago are not watching now and it's fair to ask why.
I don't have an answer, but I do know it's not MJF's fault. I've seen some people think it's because he isn't a good champ, but I don't buy it as his segments seem to bring in the most viewers every week.
I do think as glued in wrestling fans we do tend to form opinions that run counter to the larger viewing audience and sometimes have trouble separating that.
I am someone who is watching less and while I can't speak for everyone I can at least give my own pov.
I was excited when it started to finally have a well funded alternative to wwe, watched probably 90% of the time and ordered 3/4 or so of the ppvs the first 2 or so years, I would say at this point I'm probably at closer to 40-50% watching and haven't ordered a ppv since I think the first forbidden door
The biggest and most basic thing for me watching less is there is less that I want to see and more that I don't
I'm not an Orange Cassidy fan so starting so many shows with him makes me switch the channel, and sometimes I just don't go back
I'm not a fan of the death matches and overkill with the hardcore stuff, I see broken glass or thumbtacks, and that is usually the end for me, and by extension that is a turn off for me for most Moxley matches, I can live with blood here and there but is it necessary in every match even against mid carders?
I can appreciate an Omega 1 on 1 match, but the trios matches with the YB usually turn me away since they often devolve into a mess of bodies leaping and flying all over with a disregard for any actual rules be it tag match rules or breaking furniture
The general disregard for rules overall, when they were starting up they said they were going to present a more sport like product and it is often the complete opposite and includes even more Ga-Ga than wwe
I'm not a hater, nor do I want them to fail, but Dynamite has become less of what I like to watch, so I watch less
So far I feel like Collision has been a little more wrestling=centric, and I've watched it when possible, so hopefully that trend continues
Hopefully LAX comes back with AndradeI’ve shelled out for the last 4 PPVs but I’m with you on the rest. I still watch but I might be reaching the burnout point.
I like Omega and even Adam Page to a degree, but I can’t stand the Young Bucks. Anytime they’re on I find myself looking at my phone, getting up to cook, etc.
Mox bleeding every damn week really cheapens it. Save it for big matches where that effect matters. We don’t need to turn this into ECW.
I like Orange Cassidy but the dude cheapens a low/Mid card belt. Quit making him look unbeatable, take the belt off him and give it to someone that’s actually going to have a feud over it. I said it before but Swerve would be perfect for that or the TNT belt.
Collision has had more cohesive matches and storylines so far. I love what they’re doing with BCG, Starks, FTR, finally getting credible opponents for HoB. They’re making the TBS and TNT titles more important. (Love that Christian segment with his kid.) I’d love to see more Andrade and have him team with 2 other guys and go at HoB. The only thing I don’t like about Collision is CM Punk.
Hopefully LAX comes back with Andrade
I am just saying it is the kind of promo that people that hate the Elite would lose their f***ing minds if they cut post show. Tell me when I am telling lies. If Omega cuts that same promo people would be freaking out. That is just the truth. End of the day your last point is the only one that matters. If Page and Punk are going to work a program at some point? Cool. If they aren't? Why tf are you cutting a random ass promo post show on Hangman when you are in a feud with Starks. Grow up and move on child.Tell him when he’s telling lies! He actually generates business for the company, Hangman Page does not (as I have been saying for awhile, when ppl tried to claim he was a PPV draw LMAOLOLOLOL). Is he an egomaniac? 100%! He’s also right!
Glad he finds Matt Jackson’s foundation remarks as silly as everybody else that uses logic.
Tbh that video seems like they may actually work together. If they don’t Punk should probably just shut up at this point, unless he’s just gonna go full heel
Hey, CM thinking too highly of CM Punk is nothing new nor it validates the Elite's side.Ironically that promo after collision is Punk being a mark for himself lmao biggest man child in pro wrestling is still biggest man child. Shocking development.
We need more of these guys. The true best friends.
Meltzer at it again, lol.
I really do fail to see how anyone could see Hangman as being the asshole in this situation. Guy is literally just kind of existing and still has Punk so pressed he is randomly shooting on him for no reason at all lolThey are all assholes and all need to grow up
Nemeth made his own bed by going after Punk on Twitter.CM Punk being a petty insufferablereally is an outlandish story. Very hard to believe right? The whole Ryan Nemeth thing just kind of makes Punk seem like a bitch lol Tony to in a way too because he kind of seems to just let Punk get away with doing(saying) whatever the hell he wants.
Tony has zero spine 100% of the time. He parties with the talent. He just wants to be looked at as one of the boys, and that’s why nobody on either side of this drama has any respect for him as an authority figure. They look at him as an easy money mark (easy there sabremike, not using the wrestling version of the term! Using the sales/scam artist version! Trying to avoid any verbiage policing!). They can get some nice big paychecks on an easy schedule and do whatever they want regardless of if it’s good for business or not.CM Punk being a petty insufferablereally is an outlandish story. Very hard to believe right? The whole Ryan Nemeth thing just kind of makes Punk seem like a bitch lol Tony to in a way too because he kind of seems to just let Punk get away with doing(saying) whatever the hell he wants.
I've tuned out of this drama unless they make a feud out of it (please) but that story doesn't really add up. Punk and the Elite were in the same building at Forbidden Door. They're gonna be in the same building during All In and All Out. Maybe even Grand Slam if they want Punk to have a match there. Why are they acting like Punk and Hangman have this "ON SIGHT" beef?
Whatever. Just don't fight and get suspended again is all I ask. All these guys are superbly talented and I want them on my screen as much as possible.
I am not sure why the entire Elite always get bunched in together in this whole leaking thing....also why people act like they are the first group of people to talk to a dirtsheet reporter lol like even in the report Dave says that Punk and Omega have no heat at all. Omega is willing to work with him. The Bucks absolutely are not willing to work with Punk and nobody knows what tf Hangman thinks about it all because he just hasn't said anything about it to anyone. Guy is just living his life while having Punk so pressed he is shooting on him because someone brought a Hangman was right sign to a showI don't believe Dave's implication that Punk somehow got Page barred from the building.
I can buy Punk pulled strings to get Nemeth sent home because Nemeth talked shit about Punk on twitter because Punk is petty like that (and you could argue Nemeth had it coming in that case)
And Punk was clearly a petty shooting on Page again because someone in the crowd had a positive Page sign.
But it's also incredibly childish of the elite to once again go running to Dave to try and spread their bullshit about big bad Punk picking on poor Hangman.
They need to grow up.
Edit: SRS corrected himself that Nemeth being sent home actually had nothing to do with Punk.
So really all we got is Punk shooting on Page, which was dumb, and The Elite spreading garbage through Dave again