AEW All Elite Wrestling #9: Mox Aggressor Brings the Blood
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Clint Eastwood
Eff the Habs
That was the darkest ending to a PPV I've seen in quite sometime. Seems like they're really positioning Darby and Cassidy to really be the main adversaries against the BCC. Darby in particular.
Fantastic show overall. AEW PPVs rarely miss. Even the matches I was least interested in (Perry/Shibata, Jericho/Briscoe) got me invested as the match went on.
Fantastic show overall. AEW PPVs rarely miss. Even the matches I was least interested in (Perry/Shibata, Jericho/Briscoe) got me invested as the match went on.
frightenedinmatenum2
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The booking around the Danielson stuff has been tremendous. All In was very successful off the backs of how they presented Danielson as a challenger with his big win being telegraphed.
Some people wanted a new person to get elevated with Danielson losing the belt, but they can't have Darby or whoever be the one to beat him after 2 months, because it undercuts the face who beats him. Look at the reaction to Danielson losing. It's not Undertaker losing the streak, but it's probably the closest thing we will see in the tone of the reaction. People weren't ready for him to lose, so they can't really have a new face beat him without it hurting that face.
When Darby or whoever takes down Moxley, that's the big payoff where by transcendence, Bryan's run gets someone new over, because they used the angle around his retirement to reheat Moxley as the biggest heel they have had in a very long time, and if they follow it up nicely, whoever beats Moxley will get a much bigger rub than if they had been the one to retire Danielson.
Yuta involved also means that they do not have to go back to Danielson/Moxley if/when he returns. They could very well have Darby/Moxley at All In, and Yuta/Bryan lights out at All Out.
Something that almost always works in wrestling is the slow burn of the babyface standing up to and leaving the heel group. If Yuta opposes Moxley now, he's getting beaten, and likely not in the angle for the long haul. Putting him back in the group, especially in the way they did it where it was more shades of grey where he made the choice in the moment and was still conflicted, not "hahaha I was pretending to care about Bryan", they can eventually pull the trigger on Yuta standing up to Moxley.
Some people wanted a new person to get elevated with Danielson losing the belt, but they can't have Darby or whoever be the one to beat him after 2 months, because it undercuts the face who beats him. Look at the reaction to Danielson losing. It's not Undertaker losing the streak, but it's probably the closest thing we will see in the tone of the reaction. People weren't ready for him to lose, so they can't really have a new face beat him without it hurting that face.
When Darby or whoever takes down Moxley, that's the big payoff where by transcendence, Bryan's run gets someone new over, because they used the angle around his retirement to reheat Moxley as the biggest heel they have had in a very long time, and if they follow it up nicely, whoever beats Moxley will get a much bigger rub than if they had been the one to retire Danielson.
Yuta involved also means that they do not have to go back to Danielson/Moxley if/when he returns. They could very well have Darby/Moxley at All In, and Yuta/Bryan lights out at All Out.
Something that almost always works in wrestling is the slow burn of the babyface standing up to and leaving the heel group. If Yuta opposes Moxley now, he's getting beaten, and likely not in the angle for the long haul. Putting him back in the group, especially in the way they did it where it was more shades of grey where he made the choice in the moment and was still conflicted, not "hahaha I was pretending to care about Bryan", they can eventually pull the trigger on Yuta standing up to Moxley.
Clint Eastwood
Eff the Habs
I feel like having this extremely violent version of the BCC wouldn't be a fit with Shane. Even at Shane's most violent, he was never really that threatening.
I do think everyone who jumped in at the end there will be feuding with them at some point (or in Private Party's case, they already have). I don't think they were randomly chosen for any reason.
I do agree that Darby + Brody or even a full Darby - HOB partnership could work. I also think Switchblade gets a run at the belt too.
Very interested to see how this plays out especially with the Continental Classic coming.
frightenedinmatenum2
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Shane coming in is an awful choice.
WWE fans aren't going to switch to AEW when WWE already has 7 hours or whatever of TV that they like better.
AEW lost a huge chunk of fans over the last few years since Vince left WWE and after 20 years of fans complaining in YouTube comments, their dream of "wwe getting good again" finally came true. The AEW core fans remaining don't want anything to do with ex-WWE guys or a "WWE-lite" product.
It's the type of thing that would be a big deal when it first happens, but it would have a negative effect after the first week.
The only justification would be if Shane's involvement in the company is the catalyst for a relationship with Fox.
In terms of story, I think it could be a fit, but I don't think in general it's the right move for the promotion.
WWE fans aren't going to switch to AEW when WWE already has 7 hours or whatever of TV that they like better.
AEW lost a huge chunk of fans over the last few years since Vince left WWE and after 20 years of fans complaining in YouTube comments, their dream of "wwe getting good again" finally came true. The AEW core fans remaining don't want anything to do with ex-WWE guys or a "WWE-lite" product.
It's the type of thing that would be a big deal when it first happens, but it would have a negative effect after the first week.
The only justification would be if Shane's involvement in the company is the catalyst for a relationship with Fox.
In terms of story, I think it could be a fit, but I don't think in general it's the right move for the promotion.
Fro
Cheatin on CBJ w TBL
Saw a few places, Danielsons last matches on raw, smackdown, and aew were seth, roman, mox
Clint Eastwood
Eff the Habs
just the way that sick son of a bitch would’ve wanted it
GKJ
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Very well stated. The rise of Wheeler Yuta to being the top star in the company has begun. Tony finally seeing the light.
frightenedinmatenum2
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The only thing I would have done differently would be to put Hangman in that spot instead of Moxley.
If you go back to after All In, I suggested a very similar dynamic, Hangman beats Bryan early and use Hangman to get the next guy over.
The only thing I don't like about how they booked this was how they approached Darby losing his shot to Moxley. If didn't make sense and made Darby look stupid. There were ways to do it where Darby was outsmarting Mox and looking heroic.
Otherwise, they maximizes the cards they were dealt from knowing however many months back that Bryan was done, and getting as much as they can out of his last big angles.
SnS
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It was never going to be Hangman. That wasn’t what Danielson wanted.
frightenedinmatenum2
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I am not suggesting that there was any rumors or news pointing to that.
I am saying that what they did is how I thought they should handle Danielson only being able to have a short run. Only that, when I suggested it after All In, I figured it should be Hangman because he was the hottest heel at the time.
Just watched the ending of wrestledream. I've been out of wrestling since a little after mania and this Mox/Danielson angle is exactly what I want with wrestling. WWE is too Disney for me and AEW tried to become WWE lite. I hope this kinda stuff is something they make as a part of their identity going forward. So much emotion in that angle man.
Fro
Cheatin on CBJ w TBL
Their weekly show was the best show on weekly tv until they over expanded and tried to be WWE lite. It's a carny industry and I feel like they took the bad faith bait (something WWE wrote the book on if you look at them historically). They seem to be in a rebuilding phase so I hope they take a different approach and vision. They were supposed to be the alternative that was built over time. Wrestling fans are fickle and they like what they like for a point in time and then become nitpicky and bored. I've seen it over the years so appeasing the fans is not really something sustainable they just got to stick to their vision.
Apex Predator
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Are the the rumors of Shane coming to AEW legit? After watching the documentary of Vince McMahon I think if Shane comes and is only involved in behind the scenes to help Tony grow AEW is a good thing.
He seems to have the mind for it and this could be a chip on his shoulder situation where he can finally prove it.
He seems to have the mind for it and this could be a chip on his shoulder situation where he can finally prove it.
I have no problem with it as long as he doesn’t wrestle
Clint Eastwood
Eff the Habs
GKJ
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