AEW All Elite Wrestling #9: Mox Aggressor Brings the Blood

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So many people are concerned about tickets and ratings and all of this nonsense. Nobody works for AEW. That's their issue. I just care whether the show is good or not.
A lot of it is also in bad faith lol the picture of Edge that has gained traction from Collision this week showing an empty hard cam side as some kind of indictment on AEW's ticket sales on a night when they had 4,000 people in the building lol
 
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A lot of it is also in bad faith lol the picture of Edge that has gained traction from Collision this week showing an empty hard cam side as some kind of indictment on AEW's ticket sales on a night when they had 4,000 people in the building lol

The domestic attendance hasn't been good though, it isn't a bad faith thing, it's just a fact.

It will eventually sort itself out, but it hasn't been great lately.
 
The domestic attendance hasn't been good though, it isn't a bad faith thing, it's just a fact.

It will eventually sort itself out, but it hasn't been great lately.
I mean it isn't hot, that is absolutely true. I just don't think it is bad to the point of being a major issue or anything. I was more so talking about the use of that specific picture as evidence that AEW was performing infront of an empty house when they actually had a good night on Saturday. That specifically is a bad faith argument.
 
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I mean it isn't hot, that is absolutely true. I just don't think it is bad to the point of being a major issue or anything. I was more so talking about the use of that specific picture as evidence that AEW was performing infront of an empty house when they actually had a good night on Saturday. That specifically is a bad faith argument.

Raw used to have whole sides of the arena empty back in 2018 or so. Now I understand WWE has been around for many many years so it's not an apples to apples comparison but still. Nothing to make a big deal out of imo.
 
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I mean it isn't hot, that is absolutely true. I just don't think it is bad to the point of being a major issue or anything. I was more so talking about the use of that specific picture as evidence that AEW was performing infront of an empty house when they actually had a good night on Saturday. That specifically is a bad faith argument.

Fair point, like I said it will even itself out eventually.

I do wonder if they are doing a strong enough job promoting these shows in the lead up on the ground in the cities.
 
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Raw used to have whole sides of the arena empty back in 2018 or so. Now I understand WWE has been around for many many years so it's not an apples to apples comparison but still. Nothing to make a big deal out of imo.

It's kind of crazy how much the pandemic seemed to reset WWE for the better.

They were in a really bad rut before it.
 
It's kind of crazy how much the pandemic seemed to reset WWE for the better.

They were in a really bad rut before it.
The best thing that came from it was realizing they don’t need to do house shows every week. The tv and content creation is worth way more than making everyone kill their bodies and rush around small towns with a few hundred people.
 
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It's kind of crazy how much the pandemic seemed to reset WWE for the better.

They were in a really bad rut before it.

Ehh, I think there's a couple factors here and only one is really tied to the pandemic...

1. AEW created a "Purge" of sorts for the WWE audience. Fans who wanted an alternative product got it, and that stopped a lot of the negative responses in the arena to what WWE was pushing. Think of Cody as the new Cena. AEW fans hated Cody. WWE fans love him. AEW essentially took the "Cena sucks" fans out of the building and left WWE with the "Let's go Cena" chants.

2. Vince got in trouble. It really can't be emphasized how much this changes things. It goes beyond dumb shit like having Drake Maverick piss himself on TV or advertising matches that don't happen. If Vince is 100% in charge, Gunther doesn't go on the run that he's on. If Vince is in 100% in charge, LA Knight probably flops as Max Dupri and gets released. If Vince is 100% in charge, Jey Uso is likely not over to the degree that he's at now. That's two of your top 4 babyfaces and a top 2 heel.

On the women's side, Rhea had just gotten out of a forgettable tag team with Liv Morgan and jumped onto JD... Which Edge quickly jumped out of because Vince wanted to make the group supernatural. Becky was still wearing her goofy Rollins-esque shit and being shoehorned as a heel. Sasha and Naomi took off because of Vince's inconsistent booking. (I think this is partially a problem of Sasha being a brat, too, but nonetheless)

The only thing that really ties to the pandemic, IMO, is Roman. Vince kinda let house shows dictate the direction of the company pre-COVID. I don't think you ever get a Roman Reigns heel turn if they still had to sell house show tickets. You also probably don't get a change in production that has made Roman a great character without empty arena shows, where he was talking a lot of shit in the ring and saying a lot of shit off mic, which has carried back into arena performances.

And whether people have particularly enjoyed Roman's monopoly over the title or not, nobody can deny that his Tribal Chief run has absolutely elevated the company as a whole.
 
A tease of Omega and MJF on TV. He had to have re-signed to be the center of the show like this. The Adam Cole, Neck Strong and Samoa Joe feuds are unresolved. BCG is ongoing. Wardlow wants a piece.
 
2 squash matches is...ummm odd...

Also wardlow demolishing baby ziggler in 1 move, and archer needing 10 vs a jobber...once again does nothing for archer imo...
 
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