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AEW All Elite Wrestling #8: Grabbing the Brass Ring of Honor

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LOL, another AEW squash. I assume it’s injury related. The way Punk looked back as he was going up the ramp leads me to believe he’ll return a heel.
 
les Habs said:
LOL, another AEW squash. I assume it’s injury related. The way Punk looked back as he was going up the ramp leads me to believe he’ll return a heel.
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To have him come right back as a heel and do a rematch seems like really convoluted booking, but unless it's Page or MJF is ready to go what else could they do?
 
Dave claiming Kingston just finished an in house suspension for getting into an altercation. Fightful says Sammy made a crack about his physique and Eddie took a swing at him

Apparently called him a "fat f***"
 
Emperoreddy said:
Dave claiming Kingston just finished an in house suspension for getting into an altercation. Fightful says Sammy made a crack about his physique and Eddie took a swing at him

Apparently called him a "fat f***"
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not surprising if true sammy comes across as a **** in real life
 
Im starting to legit worry about AEW. The booking is highly suspect and it seems they destroyed a ton of good momentum. The show is pretty entertaining still and we get some dream matches here and there. A long term vision seems to be lacking however. As someone who believes there needs to be viable alternatives to WWE its pretty worrisome.
 
That title match last night sucked ass legit one of the worst I have seen.

Garcia soap opera was shit too

I like AEW but some fans are as bad as wwe fans. Somethings wrong and it needs to be fixed.
 
Troublesome 85 said:
That title match last night sucked ass legit one of the worst I have seen.

Garcia soap opera was shit too

I like AEW but some fans are as bad as wwe fans. Somethings wrong and it needs to be fixed.
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you do a squash, with an injury angle, with a guy who is probably still injured, match quality isn't what they're going for
 
Soldier13Fox said:
That whole match was something else. I know there are a lot of people that aren't fans of spotfests like that.... but for me, that was an incredibly fun match that is definitely top 5 of the year. Pumped for Elite v Billy goat/AO
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There were absolutely sequences that I could not stand where it stops being fake fighting and starts becoming choreographed gymnastics.

But then stuff like this is just too impressive.
 
Grackle Party said:
Im starting to legit worry about AEW. The booking is highly suspect and it seems they destroyed a ton of good momentum. The show is pretty entertaining still and we get some dream matches here and there. A long term vision seems to be lacking however. As someone who believes there needs to be viable alternatives to WWE its pretty worrisome.
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Booking and talent relations are my two worries with AEW.

I think that they have great talent and a lot of potential. I also like Tony's overall vision. I just do not think the execution and day-to-day operations are major leagues yet. They will get there, I have no doubt, but now, it is a struggle and you can feel it on TV.
 
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Scandale du Jour said:
Booking and talent relations are my two worries with AEW.

I think that they have great talent and a lot of potential. I also like Tony's overall vision. I just do not think the execution and day-to-day operations are major leagues yet. They will get there, I have no doubt, but now, it is a struggle and you can feel it on TV.
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I feel like if he delegated more stuff to capable people it could help a lot. Idk if he should be running every single thing like Vince did
 
Emperoreddy said:
I feel like if he delegated more stuff to capable people it could help a lot. Idk if he should be running every single thing like Vince did
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I think elevating people in the talent relations department was a wise decision.

I think he will need to delegate booking. It is clearly not his strongest suit. He can give the overall vision (which I think is generally very good), but should delegate the show-to-show booking to someone with experience.
 
Soldier13Fox said:
That whole match was something else. I know there are a lot of people that aren't fans of spotfests like that.... but for me, that was an incredibly fun match that is definitely top 5 of the year. Pumped for Elite v Billy goat/AO
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I feel like elite vs AO+ will should have been at all out… I feel that match is going to blow minds
 
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Scandale du Jour said:
I think elevating people in the talent relations department was a wise decision.

I think he will need to delegate booking. It is clearly not his strongest suit. He can give the overall vision (which I think is generally very good), but should delegate the show-to-show booking to someone with experience.
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Agreed. We will see if the new talent relations folks can cool things down. Sounds a bit like a high school in that locker room
 
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Agreed. We will see if the new talent relations folks can cool things down. Sounds a bit like a high school in that locker room
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I guess it is just normal friction that needs to be managed.

First 3 years were a honeymoon phase and now that they have a big roster with a lot of potential star and limited TV time, egos will start to clash more and more. It is normal in such a competitive business. How you manage it is the key. You cannot be the talent's best friend.
 
Scandale du Jour said:
I think elevating people in the talent relations department was a wise decision.

I think he will need to delegate booking. It is clearly not his strongest suit. He can give the overall vision (which I think is generally very good), but should delegate the show-to-show booking to someone with experience.
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Quick question, what is Tony's overall vision?
 
Khelandros said:
Quick question, what is Tony's overall vision?
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Well, I'd say most of the stories are good, but the execution is often lacking. Like the Star Wars prequels hehe.

Wanting to give every kind of wrestling to the fans. The people he has been elevating. Long term storytelling usually makes sense even if the "chapters" are not always well done.
 
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I don't think his long term vision on the women's side has been good. They really need someone with pull in the company to better advocate for them.

I do think there are some recent missteps in long term booking as it involved a lot of the new signings. Specifically for me with Bryan. It's a dead horse I know, but I really think how he has been utilized has not been good
 
Emperoreddy said:
I don't think his long term vision on the women's side has been good. They really need someone with pull in the company to better advocate for them.

I do think there are some recent missteps in long term booking as it involved a lot of the new signings. Specifically for me with Bryan. It's a dead horse I know, but I really think how he has been utilized has not been good
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Agree with both statements. The women's matches are largely segments I watch at double speed or skip alltogether as I just don't care that much. Aside from Shida, Baker, and maybe Storm just doesn't feel like much is going on there. The biggest detrement in that deaprtment is probably the size of the roster competing against very limited TV time. That's one thing that WWE does (or did) infinitely better than AEW. Women's revolution period a while back was the best thing they had going for them.
Regarding Danielson, I wouldn't be overly surprised to hear he's being booked exactly how he wants to be... but they need to do something more. Jericho is my personal favorite of all time, but I have zero interest in Jericho v Danielson over whether or not Garcia is wrestler or Sports Entertainer.
 
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