Proposal: All Bruins trade rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part VI

[Cousin Eddie]

Hey guys. I'm an Avs fan. Dom seems to be a very highly respected guy on here. One of our mod's who I'd consider a friend of mind at this point has told me that he respects Dom very much which leads me to respect him as well.

In saying that, I've never had the opportunity to speak with him myself so I'm curious. Is it possible he would take all this speculation and make that tweet because it's a shot to call a trade before it happens. Or is it more likely he 100% truthful when he says a former NHL coach has said that?

I'm guessing it's the latter but wanted to see what you guys think first.

 

[22Brad Park]

I can smell a bad deal coming. They move Carlo in any deal for Landeskog I will be on the fire Sweeney train.Can see it now.Rental like Shattenkirk coming to replace a young 20 yr old on backend. Just a guess.
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[SpitfireIX]

The fact that Sakic is staying for the Beanpot bothers me. Unless he's looking at undrafted students, his focus could be on JFK and McAvoy. This means Sweeney's offered one in a trade for Duchene or Landeskog. But who knows, perhaps Donny is including Sherman and Fitzgerald, which I would be OK with. Sherman is a junior and Fitz is a senior and more ready than, say, an 18 yr old.

Zboril, Spooner, Sherman, Fitzgerald and a 1st for Landy. Maybe substitute Denver U. alum, Heinen, if Joe insists.

Don't see why he wouldn't stay for the Beanpot no matter what. Colorado is done for the season watching young players is more of a priority for Sakic at the moment. I can't see Colorado doing a Landeskog deal without Carlo being involved. McAvoy should be considered untouchable.

 

[sarge88]

This is not good.

I keep telling myself that this time will be different....this time the Bruins will get a clear cut win in a deal.

It happened before, right?

 

[LSCII]

Not liking the rumors coming out about a deal with Colorado. Doesn't seem like they have the players the B's need to fix the real holes on the team. They need help on D, not up front. I mean, yes, they do need to improve up front as well, but the glaring hole is on the back end.

 

[ON3M4N]

On the record now as being very opposed to dealing either Carlo or McAvoy.

These are the kinds of kids the Bruins have spent years looking for. Now that you have them, don't deal them away the first chance you get.

my thoughts exactly. Look at the premium that teams are asking for in order to get a top 4 RHD. We potentially have two that are both super young. Take them and build around them.

 

[BruinDust]

On the record now as being very opposed to dealing either Carlo or McAvoy.

These are the kinds of kids the Bruins have spent years looking for. Now that you have them, don't deal them away the first chance you get.

Same here.

I don't care if it's Landeskog or Duchene coming back.

Of the kids drafted in the 1st and 2nd round the past 2 years, I don't want to see any of these included:

Carlo
McAvoy
JFK
Senyshyn

It's not to say I don't like Debrusk, Lauzon, etc. (admit I'm not a Zboril fan at the moment), but left-shot forwards and left-shot D are where they have surplus of sub 25 players. Senyshyn is by far their best RW prospect, JFK their best C prospect)

They can afford to deal some LD or LW if it means bringing back immediate help like Landeskog or Duchene.

 

[sarge88]

Hey guys. I'm an Avs fan. Dom seems to be a very highly respected guy on here. One of our mod's who I'd consider a friend of mind at this point has told me that he respects Dom very much which leads me to respect him as well.

In saying that, I've never had the opportunity to speak with him myself so I'm curious. Is it possible he would take all this speculation and make that tweet because it's a shot to call a trade before it happens. Or is it more likely he 100% truthful when he says a former NHL coach has said that?

I'm guessing it's the latter but wanted to see what you guys think first.

Not at all.

He's as straight up as can be, IMO.

He just reports what he hears.....wouldn't post something if there wasn't something behind it.

That being said, like anyone on here, he's only as good as his sources are accurate.

 

[ON3M4N]

Not liking the rumors coming out about a deal with Colorado. Doesn't seem like they have the players the B's need to fix the real holes on the team. They need help on D, not up front. I mean, yes, they do need to improve up front as well, but the glaring hole is on the back end.

For the right deal I think Landy could be a huge help. I personally would keep Cehlarik w/ Krejci & Pasta and let Landy play w/ Spooner & Vatrano on the 3rd line. Give you depth all around. 4th line still needs some help, but if they called up Blidh and had Nash on the right I'd be ok with it.

 

[sarge88]

Same here.

I don't care if it's Landeskog or Duchene coming back.

Of the kids drafted in the 1st and 2nd round the past 2 years, I don't want to see any of these included:

Carlo
McAvoy
JFK
Senyshyn

It's not to say I don't like Debrusk, Lauzon, etc. (admit I'm not a Zboril fan at the moment), but left-shot forwards and left-shot D are where they have surplus of sub 25 players. Senyshyn is by far their best RW prospect, JFK their best C prospect)

They can afford to deal some LD or LW if it means bringing back immediate help like Landeskog or Duchene.

I think they can afford to move JFK or Senyshyn if they are getting a quality forward back.

They have enough flexibility, IMO. Spooner, Backes, Vatrano all can play more than one forward position.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Not at all.

He's as straight up as can be, IMO.

He just reports what he hears.....wouldn't post something if there wasn't something behind it.

That being said, like anyone on here, he's only as good as his sources are accurate.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

 

[sarge88]

For the right deal I think Landy could be a huge help. I personally would keep Cehlarik w/ Krejci & Pasta and let Landy play w/ Spooner & Vatrano on the 3rd line. Give you depth all around. 4th line still needs some help, but if they called up Blidh and had Nash on the right I'd be ok with it.

I think a 4th line made up of Moore, Nash, Beleskey, Schaller, Hayes is good enough.

 

[DoubleAAAA]

Moore, Schaller and Nash as a 4th unit have been good.

 

[22Brad Park]

Hey guys. I'm an Avs fan. Dom seems to be a very highly respected guy on here. One of our mod's who I'd consider a friend of mind at this point has told me that he respects Dom very much which leads me to respect him as well.

In saying that, I've never had the opportunity to speak with him myself so I'm curious. Is it possible he would take all this speculation and make that tweet because it's a shot to call a trade before it happens. Or is it more likely he 100% truthful when he says a former NHL coach has said that?

I'm guessing it's the latter but wanted to see what you guys think first.

Dom could care less about being first to announce any trades.He will read your post and no doubt answer you himself..I will add I do not know him but being hear as a regular I read his stuff alot and he never seems like type to say anything till his homework is done.Very thorough.

 

[LSCII]

For the right deal I think Landy could be a huge help. I personally would keep Cehlarik w/ Krejci & Pasta and let Landy play w/ Spooner & Vatrano on the 3rd line. Give you depth all around. 4th line still needs some help, but if they called up Blidh and had Nash on the right I'd be ok with it.

To me, it would really depend on the cost to obtain. The stories earlier about the ask were outrageous, and if that's the case, I would run screaming from it.

 

[Beesfan]

If a trade goes down with Colorado, I'm calling this:

To Colorado
Zboril
JFK
2017 1st
Colin Miller

To Boston
Landeskog
2017 3rd

 

[Over the volcano]

Not in favor of giving him up for nothing, BUT Carlo has faded considerably and no one is untouchable. If the return is right, and they can shore up the defense w/o him (is this the long awaited emergence of CMiller? McAvoy? the flood of kids or making a deal) then Sweeney's got to pull the trigger.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

This team is a textbook stand pat team. The only way I'm trading is with expansion on my mind. Anything else is forced at this point.

 

[Bmessy]

would prefer Carlo to be traded than McAvoy because of their potential ceilings. That said, don't hate on Carlo because he's hit a rookie wall. He's always surpassed anyone's expectations by a million miles already.

 

[LSCII]

If a trade goes down with Colorado, I'm calling this:

To Colorado
Zboril
JFK
2017 1st
Colin Miller

To Boston
Landeskog
2017 3rd

So you're calling them to actually weaken an already bad defense? Why does this actually seem like it's a real possibility???

 

[22Brad Park]

If a trade goes down with Colorado, I'm calling this:

To Colorado
Zboril
JFK
2017 1st
Colin Miller

To Boston
Landeskog
2017 3rd

If Boston does this Sweeney should be fired before ink drys.

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

As long as it isn't McAvoy i won't be too upset. Carlo looks like he could be good, but I question his offensive upside.

McAvoy better not be moving for Landy.

I'd lose my mind if we dealt McAvoy for a 20 goal LW.

Marchand, Vatrano, Cehlarik, Beleskey, Gabrielle, DeBrusk, Bjork, Heinen. The need could not be any less.

I have faith in Don to not do anything ridiculous though. His questionable moves thus far have largely been down to his hand being forced (Hamilton etc.). Don't let me down Donny.

 

[LSCII]

This team is a textbook stand pat team. The only way I'm trading is with expansion on my mind. Anything else is forced at this point.

This is exactly right. Don't get swayed by the uptick the last few games. Sure this team was better than they played under Claude, but this recent upswing is all part of what happens when a long tenured coach gets fired. The team always immediately responds before falling back to earth a little later. Making a move based on the last 3 games would be a foolhardy move.

 

[ON3M4N]

Not in favor of giving him up for nothing, BUT Carlo has faded considerably and no one is untouchable. If the return is right, and they can shore up the defense w/o him (is this the long awaited emergence of CMiller? McAvoy? the flood of kids or making a deal) then Sweeney's got to pull the trigger.

In all fairness, he played all of 52 games in the WHL last year...he's already played 58 games for Boston this year. Not only is he a rookie, but his body isn't conditioned for an 82 game season. It was expected that he'd hit a wall a some point.

 

[BruinDust]

I think they can afford to move JFK or Senyshyn if they are getting a quality forward back.

They have enough flexibility, IMO. Spooner, Backes, Vatrano all can play more than one forward position.

JFK if it's Duchene but not Landeskog.

Spooner can play C and LW, don't like him at RW.

Vatrano has played LW and RW, but he looked terrible on break-outs on the left-side.

I'd hold my ground on Senyshyn. Boston's prospect depth in natural RWs is extremely shallow. Heck, it's current depth is pretty shallow.

I should say that part of my stance is I have really come to despise guys playing on their off-wing. Outside of a handful of exceptions (like Ovechkin), to me, the game is just to fast now, D-man pinch so quick, that making break-out plays along the wall on your off-wing is very difficult. Once your across the red line it doesn't matter anyways.

And I know some will say "well player XYZ played his off-wing at lower levels". But that's lower levels. I don't care what they did at lower levels, it's not the speed of the NHL.

Vatrano played RW at last year's World Championships, and looked good doing so. But based on what I seen of him at RW in the NHL, it should be a last resort, unless the Bruins want to be hemmed in their own zone more often.