Proposal: All Bruins trade rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part VI

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

Looking at the standings only Arizona and Colorado are in a sell position. Not hard to see why there hasn't been many trades.

All in on OEL

 

[PB37]

And is also near the bottom of the league in +- for defenseman.

So what's your point? Because using a +/- as a basis for an argument or counter point pretty much disqualifies you right from the get go.

Aaron Ekblad, Jake Muzzin, Noah Hanafin, Justin Faulk, OEL all have worse plus/minus then Krug. Oh noes!

 

[22Brad Park]

Fluto : Shattenkirk unlikely.

The Bruins kicked the tires on Kevin Shattenkirk before the 2016 draft. But acquiring Shattenkirk would likely have cost the Bruins both of their first-round picks, used to select Charlie McAvoy and Trent Frederic, and a roster player. McAvoy’s continued development as a Boston University sophomore has lowered the likelihood of the Bruins making another go-around for Shattenkirk, who will be an unrestricted free agent after this season. McAvoy and Brandon Carlo are locks to be two of the Bruins’ three right-side defensemen in 2017-18. Colin Miller, Kevan Miller, and Adam McQuaid are in the picture, although one will probably be selected by the Golden Knights in the expansion draft. Not only would the Bruins have to cede assets to acquire Shattenkirk, they would have to sign the right-shot defenseman to an expensive extension.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...er-accuracy/pvMZ6WVtEBuRaX5u4nRktL/story.html

Bruins better not expose Colin Miller.He is turning into a stud.Chara is killing them on making a move .Stuck protecting him.Might be best served to wait it out till next year to move on a defenceman.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

He can't play defense good enough, plus, IMO, he'd not that good running the PP. On this team he is a legit 2nd pairing, but only because we have no other LD to put ahead of him. Sorry but that is my opinion.

You have hated Krug from the get go and your reason is the nebulous "he can't play defense good enough"? If you had added "and stuff" it would have been an instant classic.

Krug's D may be average, but he puts up points and despite your opinion, does a good job on the PP. In addition, by all accounts, he has all the intangibles you would want in a player: compete, great work ethic, and a natural leadership ability.

I would be willing to bet that Krug could play Top 4 on 80% of the teams in the NHL.

 

[Coach Parker]

Adrian Dater just reporting that Justin Faulk is in play.

 

[Coach Parker]

Krug - Faulk
Chara - Carlo
Miller - Miller
Morrow

Move Liles for a pick. That is a playoff worthy defense group right there. Can't see the Bruins giving up enough to beat Colorado's offer of Duchene if that is what's on the table.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Krug - Faulk
Chara - Carlo
Miller - Miller
Morrow

Move Liles for a pick. That is a playoff worthy defense group right there. Can't see the Bruins giving up enough to beat Colorado's offer of Duchene if that is what's on the table.

Liles to where?

 

[22Brad Park]

adrian dater just reporting that justin faulk is in play.

cost lots i bet

 

[Greek_physique]

I see Faulk moving for Duchene.

Good move for both teams.

 

[Coach Parker]

I see Faulk moving for Duchene.

Good move for both teams.

Same. Enough talk about Duchene to Carolina and the Avs wanting a defenseman in return to make this work.

Now, if Boston could just add Landeskog without moving McAvoy OR Carlo...

Add Landeskog to Krejci and Pastrnak and push Beleskey down to play with Spooner and Vatrano.

 

[Coach Parker]

Liles to where?

Part of the deal for Landeskog back to Colorado would be my wish.

 

[s3antana5757]

Adrian Dater just reporting that Justin Faulk is in play.

Three team with Colorado?

Faulk to Colorado

Landeskog to Boston

Pieces to Carolina

Admittedly I don't know if Carolina is looking to improve their current roster or build to the future.

 

[Coach Parker]

Three team with Colorado?

Faulk to Colorado

Landeskog to Boston

Pieces to Carolina

Admittedly I don't know if Carolina is looking to improve their current roster or build to the future.

I wish.

No way Carolina turns down Duchene in order to take bits and pieces from Boston.

I'd focus on Landeskog if the sale is still on in Colorado. Reminds me so much of the Horton situation and trade.

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

Bruins better not expose Colin Miller.He is turning into a stud.Chara is killing them on making a move .Stuck protecting him.Might be best served to wait it out till next year to move on a defenceman.

I don't know depending on what it cost. I think the Bs are one top 4 D-man from being CUP Contenders!

 

[Coach Parker]

I posted this the morning the Bruins fired Julien in the Sweeney thread but this may be a better place for it:
I was told something very interesting this morning and if someone in the know on the Boston end could verify, I'd love to hear people's thoughts:

1. Boston wasn't going to make a trade until they fired Julien to ensure that the new acquisition didn't push them back into the playoffs.
2. The Bruins management wanted to fire Julien then make the trade and the move (which is more important than the coaching change) would have both moves looking good.
3. In essence, the Julien firing was a precursor to a trade that will take place after the third game this week before their/during their bye week.

It reminds me of how we were told that Gallant was fired BEFORE he started to get his injured players back because once he did, the team would perform and they would have missed their window to fire him.

This was the window to fire him and the trade that will occur in the next 9 days before their bye week ends has been held up be management because of the Julien firing had to come first.

Perhaps a MOD or someone else could inquire or have heard the same thing out of Boston?

 

[s3antana5757]

All in on OEL

I definitely am too, but I don't think the B's have the pieces. It would take like 7 prospects to get him here.

I wish.

No way Carolina turns down Duchene in order to take bits and pieces from Boston.

I'd focus on Landeskog if the sale is still on in Colorado. Reminds me so much of the Horton situation and trade.

I think getting Landeskog solidifies the top 9 for the foreseeable future. Let the young kids get after it in the bottom 6. Certainly have the prospects to get it done.

I don't know depending on what it cost. I think the Bs are one top 4 D-man from being CUP Contenders!

I don't know about this. I'm always optimistic but they have a very young top RHD in Carlo, lack of a top 6 winger, and a real pile of bottom 6 guys that don't provide much in the way of scoring. I think they are closer than people give them credit for, but they're not one piece away and I don't think they are just 1 year away.

I posted this the morning the Bruins fired Julien in the Sweeney thread but this may be a better place for it:
I was told something very interesting this morning and if someone in the know on the Boston end could verify, I'd love to hear people's thoughts:

1. Boston wasn't going to make a trade until they fired Julien to ensure that the new acquisition didn't push them back into the playoffs.
2. The Bruins management wanted to fire Julien then make the trade and the move (which is more important than the coaching change) would have both moves looking good.
3. In essence, the Julien firing was a precursor to a trade that will take place after the third game this week before their/during their bye week.

It reminds me of how we were told that Gallant was fired BEFORE he started to get his injured players back because once he did, the team would perform and they would have missed their window to fire him.

This was the window to fire him and the trade that will occur in the next 9 days before their bye week ends has been held up be management because of the Julien firing had to come first.

Perhaps a MOD or someone else could inquire or have heard the same thing out of Boston?

It makes plenty of sense. You're probably going to get this thread/board all fired up with that post though. I'm fine with them making a move as long as it's not a rental.

 

[PB37]

Three team with Colorado?

Faulk to Colorado

Landeskog to Boston

Pieces to Carolina

Admittedly I don't know if Carolina is looking to improve their current roster or build to the future.

Good call on that. Carolina is loaded with blueline talent while we have an abundance of forward prospects that look promising.

 

[22Brad Park]

I don't know depending on what it cost. I think the Bs are one top 4 D-man from being CUP Contenders!

My issue is expansion draft.Anything that costs them exposing between Krug or Colin Miller no thanks.

 

[Coach Parker]

I definitely am too, but I don't think the B's have the pieces. It would take like 7 prospects to get him here.



I think getting Landeskog solidifies the top 9 for the foreseeable future. Let the young kids get after it in the bottom 6. Certainly have the prospects to get it done.



I don't know about this. I'm always optimistic but they have a very young top RHD in Carlo, lack of a top 6 winger, and a real pile of bottom 6 guys that don't provide much in the way of scoring. I think they are closer than people give them credit for, but they're not one piece away and I don't think they are just 1 year away.



It makes plenty of sense. You're probably going to get this thread/board all fired up with that post though. I'm fine with them making a move as long as it's not a rental.

If MODs need my source I can give it to them as most of them know who it is anyways. I never get Bruins info from him (we talk his team all the time) but this one will be interesting to see unfold.

 

[BruinDust]

Agreed, but I think the numbers are there so that even the worst statistical success rate should yield at least one capable 3rd pairing guy from the group of Johansson, Lauzon, Zboril, Gryz, O'Gara, Lindgren and Sherman. Two of them are already in the AHL and had looks in the NHL this year.



I'm not against bringing one in, I'm just questioning the logic of doing it now, before the expansion draft, where it's going to cost you assets to acquire the player and then MORE assets in the form of exposing Colin Miller or, like you suggested, paying LV to NOT take Colin Miller. Seems unnecessary. Why rush it? Chara is here. Krug is here. Kevan Miller, Liles and Morrow can all fill that role down the stretch.



I don't have any issue with this and agree, that's probably the model they're going to have to roll with in the post-Chara era.



It makes sense to me too, but only if they enact the plan after the expansion draft, or if they're talking about adding someone who is exempt from the expansion draft. Which is probably harder than adding one of the big names you mentioned.

The more I think about it your absolutely right. I neglected to really consider the expansion draft impact at first, but it's a big consideration. I've been a Colin Miller fan since Game 1 this season, and he's getting better and better, I don't want him exposed by any means.

This isn't a move to approach now like you said, something to consider in the off-season. I agree with all the sub-25 LD options in the pipeline, the chances of one or two panning out are decent.

 

[HuskyBruinPride]

I see Faulk moving for Duchene.

Good move for both teams.

Yeah it makes a whole lot of sense. Would love to get Faulk though.

 

[DKH]

Bruins better not expose Colin Miller.He is turning into a stud.Chara is killing them on making a move .Stuck protecting him.Might be best served to wait it out till next year to move on a defenceman.

Colin Miller looks like he could be a 10+ goal 40+ point guy

He's progressing well but like Pastrnak he needs to keep structure in his game and think he's playing in the 70 or 80's fire wagon hockey

 

[ODAAT]

Yikes, Kypreos talking on HNIC that price for Brian Boyle a first round pick? Man, that`s insane

 

[DKH]

You have hated Krug from the get go and your reason is the nebulous "he can't play defense good enough"? If you had added "and stuff" it would have been an instant classic.

Krug's D may be average, but he puts up points and despite your opinion, does a good job on the PP. In addition, by all accounts, he has all the intangibles you would want in a player: compete, great work ethic, and a natural leadership ability.

I would be willing to bet that Krug could play Top 4 on 80% of the teams in the NHL.

I was thinking what teams couldn't he

Kid is awesome

 

[BruinDust]

Yikes, Kypreos talking on HNIC that price for Brian Boyle a first round pick? Man, that`s insane

It is.

The only conclusion I can draw is it's a symptom of a very small number of sellers, combined with what is considered a weak draft.

Still, I can't see a team doing this.