Proposal: All Bruins Rumours/Proposals 2020 II

[Sheppy]

manson is probably valued higher than Grz. Bruins would have to add to make such a trade happen.

I’d do it

 

[The don godfather]

How about Brandon dillon on the cheap.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

if we were looking for a vet 7th dman that brought something to the table... a guy that can play against Washington/st louis would be best

Borowiecki would fit that bill... I dont think he plays regular ahead of McAvoy/carlo/krug/chara... so hes bottom pair but he could rotate in with moore/Clifton/gryz when we needed more grit

makes a lot more sense than a big cap hit guy down the stretch. save some money to find a middle 6 scorer

 

[Sheppy]

How about Brandon dillon on the cheap.

Also not a bad pick up. Plays heavy, pretty big dude.

Good #5/6

 

[yazmybaby]

Geez I’d cry. But I would not be mad. I’d totally be down for getting a top 3 pick next years draft. But geez. Krug. Krug is one of the best offensive d in the whole league.

Keep dreaming, there no way Detroit makes this deal.

 

[mflo77]

I love the guy- outside the usual Bergeron suspect, he is my favorite B. Love watching him slip and slide around. He's been having a bit of an off year this year, but if the Bruins need to trade he or Krug I'd keep Gryz and I am a big fan of Krug as well. Reason is this: send Krug to Detroit for a lottery pick or something equivalent is good, Krug is going to cost a lot, hometown discount or no, and he is going to get term that will take him right to or past the edge where guys of his style typically fall off. Gryz is younger, cheaper, and better all-around than Krug even while not being in the same league offensively.

Ideally they keep both, but a lottery pick in what is projected to be a strong draft is a gift horse you might not want to look in the mouth. The Bruins get so few of those (and we should be thankful, really).

detroit ISNT trading its lottery pick for krug.

 

[Pay Carl]

How about Brandon dillon on the cheap.

are you expecting the Bruins to dress 9 defensemen per game?

they already have a crazy surplus of serviceable NHL dmen

 

[The don godfather]

are you expecting the Bruins to dress 9 defensemen per game?

they already have a crazy surplus of serviceable NHL dmen

Were blowing leads left right and center. We need to ship out and ship in.

 

[shelbysdad]

if we were looking for a vet 7th dman that brought something to the table... a guy that can play against Washington/st louis would be best

Borowiecki would fit that bill... I dont think he plays regular ahead of McAvoy/carlo/krug/chara... so hes bottom pair but he could rotate in with moore/Clifton/gryz when we needed more grit

makes a lot more sense than a big cap hit guy down the stretch. save some money to find a middle 6 scorer

If I remember correctly that was a role they brought Moore in for his size....

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Also not a bad pick up. Plays heavy, pretty big dude.

Good #5/6

Guys like Dillon or Boro aren't going to come as cheap
as you think.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

doesnt fill a need?
you think a right side of Mcavoy / carlo / manson isnt far superior than what we already have ? best pieces in grz? We all tend to over value Bruins players. Grz is a trade- able and replaceable commodity.

No. I don't think Manson really fills much of a need, especially when you're dealing a good defenseman for him. We have a shit ton of defensemen and it appears Kevan Miller may very well return which would only give us more. We have multiple guys in the AHL who could come up and fill in if needed as well.

I don't see how it makes sense to acquire a guy making 4.1M and would either play on our 3rd pairing or move Carlo to the 3rd pairing. Neither belongs there.

Meanwhile you've acquired yet another defenseman and taken on more cap while not filling an actual need which is scoring help.

 

[Dr Hook]

detroit ISNT trading its lottery pick for krug.

It was mentioned above, which is why I brought it up. I don't imagine they would, either, but you never know what can happen.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

If I remember correctly that was a role they brought Moore in for his size....

i think moore was brought in because grze/krug dont kill penalties and they wanted an all round guy that could play all game situations {specially for playoffs that go deep into ot}

moore was never a 'tough guy' and if st louis or Washington start gooning it up, putting moore on the ice wont make a lick of difference

but he can kill penalties so it doesnt hurt to keep him around with grzelyck/Clifton and have some flexibility who we decide to dress for bottom pair

I would say based on the eye-test... bruins coach currently views moore as a better option than these other guys for the bottom pair. I know I have felt he was a better option myself but then I guess he gets hurt or something

hes had a hard time gaining traction since we signed him but he is a former first round pick. the dude does have some skill level. if he is playing smart and hard... the dude is a bonafide talented nhl dman with size

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

No. I don't think Manson really fills much of a need, especially when you're dealing a good defenseman for him. We have a **** ton of defensemen and it appears Kevan Miller may very well return which would only give us more. We have multiple guys in the AHL who could come up and fill in if needed as well.

I don't see how it makes sense to acquire a guy making 4.1M and would either play on our 3rd pairing or move Carlo to the 3rd pairing. Neither belongs there.

Meanwhile you've acquired yet another defenseman and taken on more cap while not filling an actual need which is scoring help.

only way it makes sense to get manson… is if we are moving carlo… and it takes a hell of a lot of new math to try to make that work

I wouldnt go close to that on a 1 for 1 trade... it would require some massive add to balance those scales

that said... manson could potentially be a hell of a good fit for us. he does have that mean streak we are hoping carlo might develop. and he can play well enough to fill a hole adequately. I suppose I believe carlo is the better dman in a vacuum... but im open to listen to arguments why the package we got from Anaheim might fit us better than the package we would give up

 

[mflo77]

No. I don't think Manson really fills much of a need, especially when you're dealing a good defenseman for him. We have a **** ton of defensemen and it appears Kevan Miller may very well return which would only give us more. We have multiple guys in the AHL who could come up and fill in if needed as well.

I don't see how it makes sense to acquire a guy making 4.1M and would either play on our 3rd pairing or move Carlo to the 3rd pairing. Neither belongs there.

Meanwhile you've acquired yet another defenseman and taken on more cap while not filling an actual need which is scoring help.

i didnt say it should be the only move. adding RW is the most important. Moore / Clifton / Kampfer / Grz dont cut it IMO as a legit 3rd pair shut down type of Dmen. Manson does.

 

[mflo77]

only way it makes sense to get manson… is if we are moving carlo… and it takes a hell of a lot of new math to try to make that work

I wouldnt go close to that on a 1 for 1 trade... it would require some massive add to balance those scales

that said... manson could potentially be a hell of a good fit for us. he does have that mean streak we are hoping carlo might develop. and he can play well enough to fill a hole adequately. I suppose I believe carlo is the better dman in a vacuum... but im open to listen to arguments why the package we got from Anaheim might fit us better than the package we would give up

why would u consider moving carlo to get manson? adding manson to mac/chara/krug/carlo only makes us a lot tougher to play against.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

why would u consider moving carlo to get manson? adding manson to mac/chara/krug/carlo only makes us a lot tougher to play against.

if you wanted to tell me we should add hedman, doughty, burns, and jones while keeping McAvoy, carlo, krug, and chara... I would definitely be interested in your plan to make it work

never a bad idea to add great players and keep great players... if you had a plan to make it work

but theres always a pesky roster limit... a limit on how much time on the ice you got to spread around... a limit on cap room... a limit on how you might get talented players from other teams without giving up any of your own

its the plan that interests me

show me a plan to add manson while keeping McAvoy and carlo and I will listen

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

i didnt say it should be the only move. adding RW is the most important. Moore / Clifton / Kampfer / Grz dont cut it IMO as a legit 3rd pair shut down type of Dmen. Manson does.

What about Miller if he returns? I'm not understanding this need of having a legit shut down 3rd pairing guy anyways.

Call up Lauzon if that's what you're looking for.

 

[Dr Hook]

What about Miller if he returns? I'm not understanding this need of having a legit shut down 3rd pairing guy anyways.

Call up Lauzon if that's what you're looking for.

IF Miller gets back, and I don't even want to speculate on the odds of it given what happened to his knees, his age, a long career of wear and tear etc., he fills a pretty big need and he and Grizz made a nice pairing. I don't know how Lauzon is on his off side, though, else he could be an option as well. Certainly it seems the Bruins don't need to give up picks or players to get a third pair guy.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

IF Miller gets back, and I don't even want to speculate on the odds of it given what happened to his knees, his age, a long career of wear and tear etc., he fills a pretty big need and he and Grizz made a nice pairing. I don't know how Lauzon is on his off side, though, else he could be an option as well. Certainly it seems the Bruins don't need to give up picks or players to get a third pair guy.

Lauzon has played his offside in Providence at times. I think Lauzon is just solid. He's nasty too. He is an NHL defenseman right now but is stuck behind a lot of other players. I'd definitely move Moore to make room for him.

 

[Dr Hook]

Lauzon has played his offside in Providence at times. I think Lauzon is just solid. He's nasty too. He is an NHL defenseman right now but is stuck behind a lot of other players. I'd definitely move Moore to make room for him.

As would I, my friend. I've liked his game during his callups.

 

[bbfan419]

manson is probably valued higher than Grz. Bruins would have to add to make such a trade happen.

But Grizz making way less $$$ and much better moving the puck out quickly.

 

[MoffatMan]

What about Alec Martinez? Upgrade on Moore? Thoughts?

 

[Bruinfanatic]

As would I, my friend. I've liked his game during his callups.

Have liked it since junior

 

[BAD BOY]

Keep dreaming, there no way Detroit makes this deal.

I don’t wanna trade Krug. But even I couldn’t turn down that type of offer. Could be a number 1 pick in the entire draft. What?