Of course! that's the entire point of Offersheets.
If he proved anything at all, there's no way you could potentially get him for a 2nd.
Like if he scored 30 goals this season, he would be signed longterm at $7.5 million
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If he proved anything at all, there's no way you could potentially get him for a 2nd.
Like if he scored 30 goals this season, he would be signed longterm at $7.5 million
If the Canes offer $4.2M, the compensation is a 2nd round pick, and I bet NYR matches.
If the Canes offer $6.3M, it jumps up to a 1st and 3rd, and I bet NYR wouldn't match. What do you think, Rangers fans? It's unlikely it will happen but it's interesting to consider.
Before offer sheeting Kotkaniemi, the Canes did try to trade for him with Montreal. I could see the Canes offering a 2023 1st and 3rd instead of the 2024. Something like that.
Even if the Canes did $4.2M and the Rangers match, it'd bring their cap space next year down to $12.6M to re-sign a backup goalie, K'Andre Miller, possibly a 7th D, and 4 other forwards (or 5 if they want a spare forward). If K'Andre takes $5M then, it leaves the Rangers with $7.6M remaining to re-sign a minimum of 1 goalie and four forwards, or about $1.52M per player with no spares. Chytil would take a fair chunk of that, and the $5M for K'Andre might only cover a 2-3 year bridge deal.
If the Canes offer $6.3M, it jumps up to a 1st and 3rd, and I bet NYR wouldn't match. What do you think, Rangers fans? It's unlikely it will happen but it's interesting to consider.
Before offer sheeting Kotkaniemi, the Canes did try to trade for him with Montreal. I could see the Canes offering a 2023 1st and 3rd instead of the 2024. Something like that.
Even if the Canes did $4.2M and the Rangers match, it'd bring their cap space next year down to $12.6M to re-sign a backup goalie, K'Andre Miller, possibly a 7th D, and 4 other forwards (or 5 if they want a spare forward). If K'Andre takes $5M then, it leaves the Rangers with $7.6M remaining to re-sign a minimum of 1 goalie and four forwards, or about $1.52M per player with no spares. Chytil would take a fair chunk of that, and the $5M for K'Andre might only cover a 2-3 year bridge deal.
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I'd rather take the 2024 1st and 3rd if we aren't matching, and let the Canes over pay the contract for Laf than trading and being able to sign him for cheaper. It's petty, but so be it. Of course Laf singing for less on the offersheet obviously changes everything.
Understandable. The offer sheet is more of a "going nuclear" option and of course would be less preferable to the Canes as well. Either way I think a 1st and 3rd are well worth the potential upside of getting Lafreniere.
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If you add 4-5 powerplay goals a year, one would think Laf should be hitting 20 goals, consistently. So if you can add 20 goals to your team, long term, by trading a 1st and a 3rd, yeah it's a great upside.
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The Rangers couldn’t match that without giving up on another long term piece.
They’re praying to get him at 2x$2.5m. Anything beyond that cap hit puts them in a cap nightmare.
It’s literally the perfect offer sheet scenario. If GMs in this league had any stones, they’d do it.
For a Rangers rival, it makes all the sense in the world. Worst case scenario, the Rangers match but need to tear their roster apart and lose at least one other key roster player to make Laf fit.
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Not really so . Maybe the player would prefer a team with less depth so he can get more ice time , PP time , increased role and not as much pressure .
bold is fair, but chemistry should not be underrated.
Production is dominant factor to commanding $$$ and say in future deals, and if Martians kidnapped Chytil + Kakko I don't doubt he eventually clicks with others. But kid line has each naturally responding, quickly, without thinking everything thru. That's huge. Each will prefer if possible to stay on a functioning line w/real chemistry.
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You are right about the salary (6,3) + 1st and 3rd. But he is getting more then 2,5 x 2… lol
He is currently facing slightly easy opposition and a lot of offensive zone starts but he is driving possession in these conditions. Chytil, the guy with whom he played the most this year, isn’t driving possession while facing slightly tougher opposition.
I hadn’t check his advanced stats for a while and he is progressing. He also already has more pts then last year with games to be played.
I get that he is disappointing for a #1 pick but there is still untapped potential.
Agree. I'm just afraid Drury doesn't value the draft or development though as much as one might prefer.
Wasn't a fan of the Tarasenko trade at all. The Kane trade was fine. But the Tara trade, feel like he threw away what should be a decent 1st round pick for an off injured player in his later years who I have never personally thought was more than decent. Anyway. Not that Drury would use i wisely, I'm sure he'd pick a gritty winger instead of a center in the 1st anyway.
Honestly, the "kid line" has been ok, but I just seriously don't think Chytil is cut out for that 3rd line center role. When I think we could have had like Wyatt Johnston or a number of other centers there right now instead, makes me a bit queezy. Not that Othmann wont be good, I think he will, but we really didn't need a player like him. Maybe it'l pay off NOW that we know more about Laf and Kakko, but none the less. I'd still rather have Johnston in there next to Laf and Kakko for another year. But whatever, i mean, Chytil is ok. Just think he'd be way better off at wing.
This teams poor draft record of late, which is the only thing I can call it, has really I think forced the team to go for broke now in a way. As they will likely need another "retool", reboot or whatever it's called, in a couple of seasons. Didn't think they'd end up resigning Panarin, but now... I'm not so sure. Really have no clue what they will do with Laf or Kakko both, underperforming as they are relative to expectation at least.
Of course, if we don't extend Laf, he'll go somewhere else and in a season or two turn into the ppg player we thought we were getting. So who the heck knows. He's definitely not worth that money right now. And I just don't think they care about youth at the moment. With Zibs contract, Trochek's, Panarin and Kreider and Trouba.... thats the now and future of this team it seems. Aside from on Defense where we have all of the previous regimes development success stories.
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Correct. We still have 2 win available . The Habs could use up both spots this season. If both the Panthers and the Habs move up both count as wins.
On Laf he gets a 1st + if traded.
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As a Canes fan, I'd only be okay with giving up a 1st round pick for Laf if it was before this year's draft. Laf being another reclamation project for us doesn't excite me too much, but he's potentially a buy low for a high return type of player (if things work out).
I want us to have next year's 1st round pick available to trade if not this summer, then at next year's deadline (like say for Pettersson possibly being available if Vancouver sucks again and he pulls a Matt Tkachuk; he'd be a massive upgrade in our top 6).
