Bread4Life
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Facts. And Panarin can be on that level long enough, i mean look at Kane. Laf is lower calibre player, even at his best.
Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière: Part III
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leetch99
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Well..that is something that would need to be figured out. Situations change annually . Never say never....I am absolutely certain we will be a much more well rounded club without him and with a young center instead and 5 more million to spend at the time when it will be needed . Anyways...that is if he waived....
leetch99
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I would not say his attitude is that great...did you forget his Winter vacation last season ? His out of shape slow start this season ? Those were two things that did not have to happen . He could have played last Winter and did his stuff and he also could have came to camp in shape . What will it be from him moving forward ?
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leetch99
Leetch66 Joined 2007
Yes that is all true . Yes he would have to agree to it..that is a given and everybody in here knows that . Has he set any playoff records with us ...I look forward to your summary on those in 2 years time . If within the next 2 seasons another team wanted him....anything can be worked out . Scenarios change ....
leetch99
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If he isn't good enough to supplant Kreider in the first place then he would never reach that top level of play anyway.
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Thanks for this, I feel like this context is important. He's obviously not blowing the doors off or anything but considering the circumstances of his early career it's really not as bad as people seem to think, at least to me. He's in the same ballpark as everyone on this list from McDavid and below. What this chart tells me the most is he needs to shoot more.
He's not going to ever play at a 100+ pt pace. I don't think he is a bust or anything. But he'll likely end up being somewhere between a 60 pt and 80 pt player.
Right. I think Alf's ceiling is a PPG player. He won't ever play at a 100+ pt pace and be able to make someone like Strome a 70 pt player.
leetch99
Leetch66 Joined 2007
At 5 on 5 he is almost there with Kreider right now goal wise with worse linemates and less ice time . That's an assumption but I think I am somewhat close on the basis of that summation . Somebody likely knows the exact numbers for both . Stat guys do a great job ! Looking at Sports Forcaster stats....Kreider has 4 more even non PP points then Laf who has 11 . I'm not sure on the breakdown of 5 on 5 ice time amounts for each .
Whoot Whoot
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Honestly im not sure what game you watched.
Laf in the 2nd and 3rd period was absolutely one of the best players on the ice.
This hate on laf has gotten kinda rediculous.
LORDE
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Serious?
He's a nothing sandwich.
You know why MSG keeps interviewing him between periods?
He's available.
What does that even mean?
IronBloodedLion
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It’s happening with most of our young players, it’s ridiculous. Consistency comes with time.
Kocur Dill
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I'd be down to trade Panarin, and don't feel it is such a terrible thing to do, provided we were 100% certain to land Matthews in FA and were trading Panarin to swap in/out the salaries and gain assets in return.
Basically, Panarin out, Matthews plus Panarin return in. That is a huge net gain for nothing more than UFA money.
Our LW depth is deep for years to come with Kreider, Lafreniere, and Othmann. Our Center depth is serviceable but suspect with no clear answers in the prospect pool.
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Kocur Dill
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Woops. My memory is f'ed anymore. I could have sworn I looked him up last year for some reason and didn't see any riders.
Full NMC.
plus his salary is prohibitive enough that only a few teams can take him.
What the chart and watching Laf tells me is that he doesn’t generate enough shots.
LORDE
I am Lorde, YA YA YA
It means he's not needed in the break... the players and coaches have shit to talk about. He's not necessary
Yes because you’re inside the locker room listening to those discussions.
Laf’s play since sliding up to the 2nd has been what we had been looking for, if inconsistent.
he’s flashed dynamic plays, he takes more shots, has made some nice back checks.
he also has made some bad passes and not always been in the right spot.
Which is exactly what we should expect from a 2nd year player.
IronBloodedLion
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They interview Zibanejad a lot too. Guess he’s not important either.
must have watched the wrong game.
one of them was invisible yesterday and it wasn’t Laf.
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Zegas had one shot hit the crossbar and made one little spin move, that was his whole game. I guess he only watched 2 shifts of hockey.
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