Confirmed with Link: Alexandre Carrier acquired from the Predators in exchange for Justin Barron

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

What's the paring for Carrier??

Should be Hutson, probably will be Guhle

 

[Andrei79]

This. And, posters seem to ignore the cap realities...

Extending Lekhonen would've been difficult given where our awful Bargainbin cap situation was... and likely would've precluded the Monahan deal.

People act like trades occur in a vacuum, but the reality is that a GM needs to balance a wide range of risks/rewards with every move.

This is a good point about Monahan. They weaponized their cap space and came out like bandits with Monahan. The Lehkonen deal also helped them finish at the bottom and got a second which allowed the Hage trade. I'm bummed at just how bad Barron has been though. I do think they've tried to accumulate as many puck movers as they could hoping at least one would hit, which seems to be Hutson.

 

[DAChampion]

Lol @ the Lehkonen revisionism.

I liked him at the time, but most of the fan base thought he sucked because of his alleged stone hands and wanted him gone.

Both Danault and Kotkaniemi were independently stated to be victims if they played on a line with Lehkonen. Danault even complained to the media about the atrocity.

 

[HomaridII]

 

[morhilane]

What's the paring for Carrier??

The logical choice would be Hutson considering Carrier's mobility, IQ and work in the dzone (also mentorship) and to keep Hutson away from Matheson (bad example) and Savard (too slow).

But, also logically not Hutson because it would be the smallest lightest D-pairing in the league.

 

[morhilane]

Carrier's banter with Chantal at the beginning of this vid

Petit gars de chez nous!!!!

He watched some of MSL pressers.

He's so happy to be joining the Habs.

 

[NORiculous]

I would have liked to keep him longer. He has only played 100ish NHl games. Way too early to give up on him, specially in a rebuild.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

I would have liked to keep him longer. He has only played 100ish NHl games. Way too early to give up on him, specially in a rebuild.

It's not a big loss. Let's be happy we have a reliable RD in Carrier from the Lehkonen trade, and that 2nd round pick helped us trade up to get Hage. Good luck to Barron, but I don't think he will be missed.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Good luck to Barron. Struble has looked like the better D since last year.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I think he'll get an offense boost here just from being given more freedom a la Matheson

 

[Whitesnake]

Maybe but again...you can't evaluate that trade today, as though the Lehknonen they were trading then, is the Lehkonen we see today.

It just wasn't...go look on the Avs board, not even Avs fans were all that enthused about the trade. I remember going on there and posting that they might have gotten the steal of the deadline.

His value wasn't *that* great in the winter of 2022...

Lehky's value was lower than Chiarot? Or Tyler Bertuzzi? Tanner Jeannot? Jason Zucker? I mean, there are all different types of players....but we are not talking all-stars here. If a GM really believe that this piece is what is needed to help his team, he won't care about the 30th pick. I would have kept Lehky if the highest I could have had was 2 2nd rounders. We acquired freakin Shaw for 2 high 2nd rounders...I was not going to get rid of Lehky for that.....

Anyway, in resume, if you want, the value when it was done (no matter if I didn't like Barron) was fine. But the end result isn't good. And like any jobs in the world, that's how you are evaluated. Though not solely on THAT move but on the sum of all moves.

 

[The Great Weal]

Good luck to Barron. Struble has looked like the better D since last year.

I think Struble has been just as bad this season. He's next up if he keep this up.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Truth is we overhype players when we get them. And we definetly did that for Baron. He wasn’t as good as we all thought he was or could be.

But Carriere man! That guy is good. Could be a top 4 maybe even a Top 2.

 

[417]

Lehky's value was lower than Chiarot? Or Tyler Bertuzzi? Tanner Jeannot? Jason Zucker? I mean, there are all different types of players....but we are not talking all-stars here. If a GM really believe that this piece is what is needed to help his team, he won't care about the 30th pick. I would have kept Lehky if the highest I could have had was 2 2nd rounders. We acquired freakin Shaw for 2 high 2nd rounders...I was not going to get rid of Lehky for that.....

But the question was never about whether or not to keep him.

It was keep him AND pay him.

Anyway, in resume, if you want, the value when it was done (no matter if I didn't like Barron) was fine. But the end result isn't good. And like any jobs in the world, that's how you are evaluated. Though not solely on THAT move but on the sum of all moves.

That's the way it goes sometimes, not any different then the draft.

Unfortunate but it wasn't a total loss. We’ll see how Hage pans out.

Barron was a good gamble at the time knowing what we knew THEN.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Truth is we overhype players when we get them. And we definetly did that for Baron. He wasn’t as good as we all thought he was or could be.

But Carriere man! That guy is good. Could be a top 4 maybe even a Top 2.

Crosby hyped him to us.

 

[ZUKI]

This is fake news!
I've read many times on HFboards that nobodies wants to play here.

 

[The Real Timo]

He watched some of MSL pressers.

He's so happy to be joining the Habs.

Chantal is all over it

 

[Paddyjack]

Truth is we overhype players when we get them. And we definetly did that for Baron. He wasn’t as good as we all thought he was or could be.

But Carriere man! That guy is good. Could be a top 4 maybe even a Top 2.

You win the internet today man, good one

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Lehky's value was lower than Chiarot? Or Tyler Bertuzzi? Tanner Jeannot? Jason Zucker? I mean, there are all different types of players....but we are not talking all-stars here. If a GM really believe that this piece is what is needed to help his team, he won't care about the 30th pick. I would have kept Lehky if the highest I could have had was 2 2nd rounders. We acquired freakin Shaw for 2 high 2nd rounders...I was not going to get rid of Lehky for that.....

Anyway, in resume, if you want, the value when it was done (no matter if I didn't like Barron) was fine. But the end result isn't good. And like any jobs in the world, that's how you are evaluated. Though not solely on THAT move but on the sum of all moves.

Yes. Lehkonen was to offense what Barron is to defense, He was good defensively but shouldn't have had a whole lot of value. if someone had offered more he would have been traded there

 

[Milhouse40]

I would have liked to keep him longer. He has only played 100ish NHl games. Way too early to give up on him, specially in a rebuild.

I have to agree...Carrier himself only made their team at 24 years old.
Barron is only 23 years old.

But there was no reason to keep him.

Can't give him ice-time to develop without taking it from another young player needing that same ice-time. Would probably still be around if we could send him to Laval.

And with Hutson, we have our top offensive defensemen and we need to build around him, not sure Barron was the type of D we need around him on that D squad.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

You win the internet today man, good one

To give him some credit, if Matheson goes down or is traded Carrier might very well end up being #2 next to Hutson.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Preds fans say he can be a #4 if he has a stable partner, otherwise bottom pairing. Sounds like it should be Guhle or Xhekaj

I would go

Hutson-Guhle
Matheson-Savard
Xhekaj-Carrier

Our d core is now 50% french

 

[Skip Bayless]

Preds fans say he can be a #4 if he has a stable partner, otherwise bottom pairing. Sounds like it should be Guhle or Xhekaj

I would go

Hutson-Guhle
Matheson-Savard
Xhekaj-Carrier

Our d core is now 50% french

I think that's the way to go for now. But Guhle should definitely be playing his natural position. Hopefully Kentyuge has another trick up his sleeve at the TDL.

 

[Kennerback]

Preds fans say he can be a #4 if he has a stable partner, otherwise bottom pairing. Sounds like it should be Guhle or Xhekaj

I would go

Xhekaj-Carrier

Agreed.Xhekaj-Carrier. A sharp smart positional D paired with a monster.

 

[Miller Time]

Lehky's value was lower than Chiarot? Or Tyler Bertuzzi? Tanner Jeannot? Jason Zucker? I mean, there are all different types of players....but we are not talking all-stars here. If a GM really believe that this piece is what is needed to help his team, he won't care about the 30th pick. I would have kept Lehky if the highest I could have had was 2 2nd rounders. We acquired freakin Shaw for 2 high 2nd rounders...I was not going to get rid of Lehky for that.....

Anyway, in resume, if you want, the value when it was done (no matter if I didn't like Barron) was fine. But the end result isn't good. And like any jobs in the world, that's how you are evaluated. Though not solely on THAT move but on the sum of all moves.

In the best run organizations, results aren't the only thing you evaluate people on.