I'm surprise they traded for Carrier. Why trade for Him? When Dante Fabro could have been claimed for free? They are pretty much the same type of player with Dante being 2 years younger.
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Confirmed with Link: Alexandre Carrier acquired from the Predators in exchange for Justin Barron
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No that was from the Kulak trade & was Edmonton's pick.
We used the 2nd rounder that we got from Colorado to move up to draft Hage.
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For those yapping about the -14, Josi is -21 in 29 games. Nashville just suck offensively. Worst in the league by a wide margin. 2.25GPG vs 2.41 for the ducks. They're not even that bad defensively, 16th in the league in goals against and #1 on the PK at 88%, guess who plays top PK pairing with Lauzon? Carrier.
He's exactly what we need considering how bad the Habs are defensively(31st in the NHL). Matheson is a disaster in his own zone, splitting him and Hutson would do wonders(one gets Guhle, the other Carrier, Savard Moves down to 3rd pairing). Can't have two OFD together when team D is that bad.
He's exactly what we need considering how bad the Habs are defensively(31st in the NHL). Matheson is a disaster in his own zone, splitting him and Hutson would do wonders(one gets Guhle, the other Carrier, Savard Moves down to 3rd pairing). Can't have two OFD together when team D is that bad.
And Barron is baby Beaulieu.
(for now)
This a meh trade.
The most praise Barron got this year was we didn't hear his name vs the Buffalo Sabers. A team that just went something like 0-8-3.
Everyone wouldve screamed if we wouldve traded away Struble, Xhekaj or Barron during the off season for an older player instead of letting Jonathan Kovalchuck go.
Its a logical move. Dont panic now.
It does mean that the Lekhy trade was ass though.
I like the idea of him becoming Guhle's partner this year and then maybe shifting down to play with Xhekaj as we hopefully add to the top 4 on the right.
Justin Barron and Dante Fabbro are similar players. Carrier has similar counting stats but can actually defend.
We were laughed for expecting a second for Lekky. We got a second and Barron as a bonus. Lekky never fitted in the timeline.
Kovacevic was so bad that we had a special thing, where we now say "to make a kovacevic". Meaning when there's no pressure on you but you take so much time making a play that you end with a stupid turnover. But your not directly responsible for the goal, it comes 45 sec so someone else is culprit.
Baron did a Kovacevic in the 3rd. I bet that was the final straw.
Kovacevic was so bad that we had a special thing, where we now say "to make a kovacevic". Meaning when there's no pressure on you but you take so much time making a play that you end with a stupid turnover. But your not directly responsible for the goal, it comes 45 sec so someone else is culprit.
Baron did a Kovacevic in the 3rd. I bet that was the final straw.
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Yeah I wanted us to signed Borgen this summer to play 3rd pair RHD but was afraid to give him more than 2 years. I guess Carrier fits the bill even better even though I think he is a bit overpaid.
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In the trade of Lehks for Barron, etc this trade is a loss
With that said, Barron did not progress a bit which pro scouting/development gets a strike
In terms of current team, a vet stabilizing force was needed bad
With that said, Barron did not progress a bit which pro scouting/development gets a strike
In terms of current team, a vet stabilizing force was needed bad
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Carrier wanted to be here and fits our need a lot better than Barron, so we'll see how he does.
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You would understand the move if your entire opinion wasn't formed on a spreadsheet.
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Call it what you want, we are just swapping out spare parts for more spare parts. I want up big upgrade on our blueline, I wonder if Kent has the means to pull it off? I love how when people have a different opinion its a 'Clown take' lol
You all went nuts when we got Dach, Newhook and a ton of you loved the Barron trade, all garbage. But this is the one we actually finally win , right? Can't get worse than Barron so Kent gets a win no matter what I suppose
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I know, hindsight is 20/20, it is fun though to re-read the first reactions to a trade sometimes...
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Your clown take was a clown take because Alexandre Carrier is a league-wide 4th or 5th D-Men, not because your opinion was different. He's A LOT like Robidas, who played on a first paring for like half a decade AFTER turning 30.
I'm not adressing the second paragraph because I don't feel concerned by that statement. I guess I liked the Lehkonen trade, because he was gone regardless and targeting a RHD that could move the puck seemed like a good idea, because Mailloux was a lot of magic beans and Reinbacher wasn't drafted yet.
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Barron was Patrick Traverse 2.0
Just did not improve much if at all
Just did not improve much if at all
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We’ll see. Barron’s a big, fast skating RD with a great shot. When you make these kinds of trades, you’re taking a risk. I’d say it’s a good risk to take. And we also got the 2nd which we leveraged for Hage.
I completely understand making this trade. Lek wasn’t a star player so you weren’t going to get a star return. I’d say we did pretty well. Barron was a first rounder and we got the 2nd to go with it.
Maybe Baron doesn’t work out but we’ve still got Hage partially from that deal as well. Lek would’ve been wasted here.
Again, Barron may not work out. He hasn’t looked great and I was hoping to see more progress. But he’s played like 100 games. People are whining about Kovacevic - a 27 year old 3rd rounder we got off waivers - but are ready to call it a day on 23 year old Barron… it just doesn’t make sense to me.
Anyways, good luck to Barron. I hope it works out for him.
Let’s see what happens with Carrier. We needed a vet. I don’t know enough about this guy to comment but we really needed help on the right side. I think Barron was going one way or another.
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That was not the trade though.
The trade was Lehkonen for Barron and 2024 2nd.
If you do the trade tree, it's now Lehkonen for Alexandre Carrier+moving up for Hage.
With how Hage has been performing, he might eclipse Lehkonen, Barron, Carrier.
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I was hoping we’d sign Carrier this offseason! Pretty much exactly what we need as a steady, stop gap RD.
Too bad about Barron, but the lack of progression since his draft year AND since we acquired him is pretty concerning. Great tools but he just can’t seem to make much use of them. Glad he gets a shot elsewhere.
Not a big upside move, but hopefully having a more experienced defenceman will help out our young guys.
Too bad about Barron, but the lack of progression since his draft year AND since we acquired him is pretty concerning. Great tools but he just can’t seem to make much use of them. Glad he gets a shot elsewhere.
Not a big upside move, but hopefully having a more experienced defenceman will help out our young guys.
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Who’s that clown who wanted Barron for Lehkonen ? Should be bannedI know, hindsight is 20/20, it is fun though to re-read the first reactions to a trade sometimes...
Don’t like this trade. We need more big punishing dmen not another smurf that can’t handle physicality
And we also take on a lot more salary
really disappointed and confused
And we also take on a lot more salary
really disappointed and confused
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I still think his absolute upside is Patrice Brisebois (but he's well behind Brisebois at same age).
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