Prospect Info: Alex Vlasic, Defence, USNTDP, 43rd overall (2019)

[WarriorofTime]

Its crazy hes got 2-3 years on Korchinski and Bedard and still so young. Him being a good top 4 shutdown penalty kill LD would be MASSIVE for this team going forward.

Yeah it would open things up pretty well, if in two years it's

Korchinski (hopefully is developed and good) -Jones (hopefully hasn't fallen off yet)
Vlasic - X

With Kaiser and Allan as young guys getting experience playing off-hand, Rinzel developing, and Del Mastro also pushing on the left. And of course, you can always add a free agent.

Vlasic being good would really solidify the D to put the Hawks in a good spot going forward.

 

[clydesdale line]

If they can get one more RHD who hits with those guys (assuming Rinzel hits too).. man.. the future will be bright. Whether that's this coming draft (Levshunov, Jiricek, Mews, Parekh, Elick, etc) or what... this team will be very good, very soon.

 

[St Anley]

This seems crazy, but Vlasic might be the best Blackhawk after these 7 games.

 

[Kevin Musto]

This seems crazy, but Vlasic might be the best Blackhawk after these 7 games.

Still Bedard, but Vlasic has been no worse than 3rd best

 

[CallMeShaft]

Still Bedard, but Vlasic has been no worse than 3rd best

This is about the biggest complement Vlasic could receive, given who wrote it.

 

[Kevin Musto]

This is about the biggest complement Vlasic could receive, given who wrote it.

I have to be honest.

I'm not going to talk shit about him (you know I'd love to) when he's been legitimately good.

I'm a hater, but I'm not ignorant.

 

[TLEH]

Vlasics been unreal honestly. I’d have him first or second. Not a shock to see Murphy playing better soon as he gets with Vlasic.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Mark Kelly drafts a legitimate first pairing defenseman in the second round.

Davidson drafts what looks like a third pairing, power play specialist with a first round draft pick acquired for one of the best players in the nhl currently.

Tank bro!!!

 

[ChiHawks10]

Mark Kelly drafts a legitimate first pairing defenseman in the second round.

Davidson drafts what looks like a third pairing, power play specialist with a first round draft pick acquired for one of the best players in the nhl currently.

Tank bro!!!

Still trying to take credit for calling Vlasic, despite evidence posted otherwise, eh? Funny how you ignore those posts.

 

[ChiHawks10]

When the two players, Korchinski and Allan, are similarly talented, of course it does.

Lemme put it this way;

If the Hawks has Gretzky at 18, and Lemieux at 16. Who's the better prospect? Gretzky. If you flip flopped them, Lemieux at 18 would be the better prospect. Both players are similar in talent.

How hard is this to understand?

There isn't a huge talent discrepancy between Korchinski and Allan, but they're two different players who bring two different types of games. It's not like the Hawks couldn't use either one of them.

But because Allan is further along in his development, right now he's the better prospect.

How hard is this to understand?


Vlasic is nowhere near as talented as Korchinski or Allan.

Bad take

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Hmm

Brent Seabrook was a first pairing guy and was nowhere near as talented as Duncan Keith.

 

[swerdnase]

I have to be honest.

I'm not going to talk shit about him (you know I'd love to) when he's been legitimately good.

I'm a hater, but I'm not ignorant.

Never really stopped you before.

 

[Rolo]

Hmm

Brent Seabrook was a first pairing guy and was nowhere near as talented as Duncan Keith.

Nice try. "nowhere near as talented" makes it seem like they are several tiers away from each other.

If Keith was a 10/10 dman, then prime Seabs was a 8.5/10

 

[BobbyJet]

Still trying to take credit for calling Vlasic, despite evidence posted otherwise, eh? Funny how you ignore those posts.

LOL ... he wasn't the only one who had praise for Vlasic's game.

Remember in preseason when we heard from a few posters how passive and terrible he was? He'll never be a Jerry Korab physically but his great stick drives ops nuts.... and he has his moments on offense as well.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Nice try. "nowhere near as talented" makes it seem like they are several tiers away from each other.

If Keith was a 10/10 dman, then prime Seabs was a 8.5/10

And if, talent wise, Korchinski is an 8 Vlasic is a 7.5.

Never stated once Korchinski didn't have talent. Gus had talent too. Same player.

 

[ChiHawks10]

LOL ... he wasn't the only one who had praise for Vlasic's game.

Remember in preseason when we heard from a few posters how passive and terrible he was? He'll never be a Jerry Korab physically but his great stick drives ops nuts.... and he has his moments on offense as well.

I'm confused by the first sentence? He hasn't been praising Vlasic up until this season. Now he's trying to claim that he "always thought Vlasic would be good" which is a load of shit.

I've been talking about Vlasic showing signs of being good going all the way back to last season, though, as I'm sure can be found in my post history.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Vlasic has Musto focusing all of his attention onto Reichel what a wild time.

In other news Ian “Way better NHL Resume” Mitchell got waived by the Bruins the other day

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

LOL ... he wasn't the only one who had praise for Vlasic's game.

Who did or didn't have praise for Vlasic is irrelevant. What matters is that Kelly had the vision to see he was a first pairing talent which, so far, looks the case.

Korchinski on the other hand, looks like a bust. Throw in the player he was traded for is now one of the best players in the league currently and it questions Davidsons lack of vision in judging talent so far.

I will say it again, if these kids the media and blackhawks are pumping up we're as good as they're telling the fans, they would all be in the nhl making an impact. Great players are great players regardless of age.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Who did or didn't have praise for Vlasic is irrelevant. What matters is that Kelly had the vision to see he was a first pairing talent which, so far, looks the case.

Korchinski on the other hand, looks like a bust. Throw in the player he was traded for is now one of the best players in the league currently and it questions Davidsons lack of vision in judging talent so far.

I will say it again, if these kids the media and blackhawks are pumping up we're as good as they're telling the fans, they would all be in the nhl making an impact. Great players are great players regardless of age.

Six games where he has more than held his own against NHL competition, and propped up the corpse of Murphy, and at barely 19 years old, no less. That's what you use to judge him "a bust".

Stick to spewing bullshit about video games, because your hockey opinions are a dumpster fire.

 

[Paul Allen]

Vlasic has Musto focusing all of his attention onto Reichel what a wild time.

In other news Ian “Way better NHL Resume” Mitchell got waived by the Bruins the other day

And the best part is his boy, Mercer, has as many points as Reichel


Actually Mitchell clearing waivers is the best part.

 

[BobbyJet]

Who did or didn't have praise for Vlasic is irrelevant. What matters is that Kelly had the vision to see he was a first pairing talent which, so far, looks the case.

Korchinski on the other hand, looks like a bust. Throw in the player he was traded for is now one of the best players in the league currently and it questions Davidsons lack of vision in judging talent so far.

I will say it again, if these kids the media and blackhawks are pumping up we're as good as they're telling the fans, they would all be in the nhl making an impact. Great players are great players regardless of age.

Huh? How the hell do you figure Korchinski is a bust at this stage? And I like Vlasic but as a top pairing Dman? Maybe on the Hawks and maybe one day he will be considered that .... but I will be quite happy if he can keep top 4 status.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Huh? How the hell do you figure Korchinski is a bust at this stage? And I like Vlasic but as a top pairing Dman? Maybe on the Hawks and maybe one day he will be considered that .... but I will be quite happy if he can keep top 4 status.

Korchinski is what he is and will never be more then that.

He is a bigger Erik Gustafsson. If that is worth one of the best players currently in the NHL then there's a huge discrepancy in what Kyle Davidson thinks is cup winning talent then the last guy who was GM who actually won Cups.

Not that Bowman could build a core, he didn't and probably couldn't. But he was excellent at adding to one.

Davidson got rid of two young stars and has nothing to show for it outside of winning the draft lottery and even then there's nothing saying they wouldn't have won it if Hagel and Cat were still here considering the team is warm garbage.

If you have a generational talent, then you do more then bring in washed up players to surround the guy. You bring in talent that's nhl ready or you don't trade the actual young talent you have for lottery tickets who may or may not be as good.

Cat will always be the better player then Korchinski. That was an L.

What's Moores ceiling? Hagel? Hagel is probably going to score 40 this year and has already hit 30 goals in a season. Will Moore have that type of impact? Probably not because if he was a potential 30 goal scorer he doesn't last until 19th in the draft.

Sorry. I'm not buying any of the drivel that the Hawks are feeding the media to parrot.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Can't overstate how impressive that Vlassic has been compared to my expecations. Agree that he's been a top 3 player on the team, which also says a lot about the current team. Hopefully he can continue to develop on a team where he's relied more upon that should be the case.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Korchinski is what he is and will never be more then that.

He is a bigger Erik Gustafsson. If that is worth one of the best players currently in the NHL then there's a huge discrepancy in what Kyle Davidson thinks is cup winning talent then the last guy who was GM who actually won Cups.

Not that Bowman could build a core, he didn't and probably couldn't. But he was excellent and adding to one.

Davidson got rid of two young stars and has nothing to show for it outside of winning the draft lottery and even then there's nothing saying they wouldn't have won it if Hagel and Cat were still here considering the team is warm garbage.

If you have a generational talent, then you do more then bring in washed up players to surround the guy. You bring in talent that's nhl ready or you don't trade the actual young talent you have for lottery tickets who may or may not be as good.

Cat will always be the better player then Korchinski. That was an L.

What's Moores ceiling? Hagel? Hagel is probably going to score 40 this year and has already hit 30 goals in a season. Will Moore have that type of impact? Probably not because if he was a potential 30 goal scorer he doesn't last until 19th in the draft.

Sorry. I'm not buying any of the drivel that the Hawks are feeding the media to parrot.

Why can’t Moore score 30 goals?
Hagel didn’t get drafted till the 6th and wasn’t even signed by the Sabres.
Sill logic per usual.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Why can’t Moore score 30 goals?

Why trade an actual 30 goal scorer for a "why cant" player? And don't give me that tank crap. Hagel is 25 and fits the current Hawks timeline perfectly and would be the perfect linemate for the Hawks generational talent.

Hagel didn’t get drafted till the 6th and wasn’t even signed by the Sabres.

And scored 30 goals last year. Let's not over look that part. What has Oliver Moore done in the NHL? Nothing? While there's a generational talent wasting a year of his elc waiting for players who may or may not be good enough to play with him?

Thank God Kelly recognized Vlasic was a potential top pairing defenseman.