Value of: Alex Tuch

[Panthaz89]

Yet he still outscored Tuch in his tenure here.

not even sure what this is supposed to mean Eichel did nothing the year before and Tuch outscored him for 2 years post trade including the season where Vegas won the cup.....are you just adding up all of his time as a Sabre vs Tuch who has only been here for a few years because their PPG as a Sabre is pretty comparable along with goals.

 

[toddkaz]

not even sure what this is supposed to mean Eichel did nothing the year before and Tuch outscored him for 2 years post trade including the season where Vegas won the cup.....are you just adding up all of his time as a Sabre vs Tuch who has only been here for a few years because their PPG as a Sabre is pretty comparable along with goals.

You tell me, you are the one comparing.....Also Tuch spends time on the IR too.

 

[VaporTrail]

Tuch is 28 and has 2 years left on his deal. Buffalo will likely never be a competitive hockey team with Tuch wearing their jersey. Why on earth would they white knuckle him?

Because he turned on the fans after the team got booed last year ?? He and Okposo told the rest of the team to no longer salute the fans after wins because of the booing...This is just past of the losing culture here...He needs to go.

 

[cyris]

The Sabres need more veterans not less. I really don’t see them trading Tuch and they certainly aren’t in need of more picks and prospects.

 

[Fjordy]

Sign him for another deal when its over? He wants to be a Sabre.

I'm sick of this "Players who want to be here" crap. I'm not a fan of Tuch, some games he just doesn't put in the effort and just floats, he's not the problem but people overrate Tuch because of his big talk and this "players who want to be Buffalo" crap. I want players on my team who want to win, who put in the effort and will always fight for the team.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Call me crazy but I think Buffalo should stop trading away their good players and instead add some good players

 

[Panthaz89]

I'm sick of this "Players who want to be here" crap. I'm not a fan of Tuch, some games he just doesn't put in the effort and just floats, he's not the problem but people overrate Tuch because of his big talk and this "players who want to be Buffalo" crap. I want players on my team who want to win, who put in the effort and will always fight for the team.

He floats less than basically everyone else in the top 6....will knock a guy over and take the puck away for a SHG and goes all out on the PK. Nobody wants to play now during the losing streak and I don't exactly see the lack of effort from him unless he's been on the ice forever and is straight up tired.

 

[Fjordy]

He floats less than basically everyone else in the top 6....will knock a guy over and take the puck away for a SHG and goes all out on the PK. Nobody wants to play now during the losing streak and I don't exactly see the lack of effort from him unless he's been on the ice forever and is straight up tired.

Unfortunately I can't watch all the games because of the time zone, but I watched the Utah game, I didn't see Tuch for almost the entire game, it was like he wasn't even on the ice. No, I agree he's a positive player and probably even a pretty important one, but I don't think he's untouchable and I'm willing to look at all options. That doesn't mean I'm trading Tuch in any trade or futures, of course not, it's just that this team is so frustrating that I'm willing to look at all options.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Tuch was a promising young player who did well for Vegas before the trade, but man was he streaky. Either hot or cold and nothing in the middle, and the streaks would be long both ways.

 

[StlBigFly]

Maybe I’ve missed it as an outsider but from all the media I’ve seen with tuch he seems to want to be there.

I think Buffalo should have some internal rule where they keep guys like that no matter what.

But I bet he’d have some hefty value.

You’d have to guess a bit of a bidding war would occur. The dude is gigantic. He could be the most valuable Buffalo forward since he’d draw a ton of interest. The price is not the value of the player, it’s the amount the buyer is willing to pay. Not every team can put a 23 year old center in their lineup. Big chunk of the league would put Rantanen Junior here in their top 9. It’s highway robbery to pay that dude under 5 imo. Because his pay is relatively low you’d have a much easier time finding deals too. Big ole bidding war. Maybe because of this, if you’re Buffalo, you sell. You’re gonna maybe get an outsized return.

I’d love him on stl with Thomas but I wouldn’t want to pay the price so I’d pass. The only scenario I’d see is if there are discussions with unsigned Snuggerud and buffalos More US centric team. There’s no indication of this. That would be a scenario where the Sabres had the specific desire to bring Snuggerud in and then pitched Tuch to Stl as a part of the deal, not the other way around. Doesn’t make much sense at face value. Or stl could move Kyrou. Seems super unlikely. I think the rangers, predators, knights, stars/jets all would have interest. Probably handfuls more.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Seems like a deal could be potentially made between Seattle and Buffalo. Not necessarily for Tuch, but Seattle has plenty of guys who are vets that would look a lot better in Buffalo than they would Seattle. Seattle has some interest in younger players but would also probably be open to a hockey trade.

I would target Byram, Benson (if he's for trade) and Peterka. Getting Tage would be awesome but would be a pipe dream. Would also love to get Samuelsson as a potential rebound player if the price was right. Would also be interested in Cozens but that 7.1m contract scares me. Lots of good pieces in Buffalo. Should probably just give it a few more years of development rather than be impatient, but that's not what we're here for on the trade board is it?

Seattle is very strong on the wings but lacks the elite talent that Buffalo has, with a lot of the same problems. Should probably also just keep developing and drafting but our ownership seems even less interested in that then the Pegulas, and again, it's the tradeboard.

I feel like Stephenson, Gourde and Eberle would help Buffalo a lot, but they're getting up there in age.

Maybe something like


Cozens
Samuelsson/Byram
Benson
Peterka


Evans
Stephenson
Eberle/Gourde/Schwartz
Wright

Hurts to give up Wright and Evans as a Seattle fan but could be a big hit if Cozens progresses and Samuelsson stops getting injured every season. For Buffalo dramatically improves them in the present, gives them a decent 1-2C combo down the middle, and frees up a lot of long term cap space. They could also win big if Wright becomes what he should, Thompson + Wright down the middle is really nice. Evans is also a really nice piece on their D who fits their team and age a lot better than anyone else they have and would probably make an excellent partner for Dahlin/Power (I believe Dahlin is better on his offside?).

Fun little thought experiment. Feels like I've been saying this for years but there's no way Buffalo isn't going to explode as a team at some point and I hope the Kraken are able to do the same. Should be fun teams to watch.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Alex Tuch isn't going anywhere.

He's from the area and seemed really happy to go there to play.

He likely wants to be part of the team when they're better, so despite all this I can see him being extend in the offseason.

 

[BLNY]

I think you can forget the idea that you're getting a 70 point player. That was a blip year for that whole roster. So what is he? He's a very good skating power forward capable of 20-25 goals and 55 points per 82 games. He's on a favourable contract. He'll be 29 in the spring.

If it's a three piece trade, I think it's a protected first, a b prospect, and a mid pick. If it's a two piece trade, I think it's a protected first and an a prospect.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Would love Tuch on Colorado, he’s exactly the type of winger that does well in their system.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I almost created a similar thread, about what a trade would have to include to land Tuch in Edmonton. I realize Sabre fans don't want futures in a trade for their players. I think, realistically, futures will be part of and perhaps most of the return for anyone who exits Buffalo.

When a team is spiraling like this and headed to the bottom of the league the GM and the Coach are thinking about keeping their jobs. That's exactly as it should be in this case. This will probably cause Kevyn Adams to make a deal sooner rather than later and he won't be dealing from a position of strength.

They'll be the usual GMs circling around like buzzards looking to rip the Sabres off. A decent offer, like a futures heavy one from Edmonton, might pry a guy like Tuch loose.

A GM looking to save his job would be looking to trade futures for players, not one of their few good players for futures would they not? I'm fairly certain if Lindy is asked for his input on what the team needs the answer would not be more young players, and certainly not additional picks and prospects.

I'm an Oilers fan, who would love adding Tuch also. We just don't have ideal futures in comparison to most teams, even if that's what Buffalo was after for him, which they certainly shouldn't be. No 2025 1st and our 2nd best prospect just came from the Sabres. There's no heavy futures package we could put together.

 

[Beerz]

Seems like a deal could be potentially made between Seattle and Buffalo. Not necessarily for Tuch, but Seattle has plenty of guys who are vets that would look a lot better in Buffalo than they would Seattle. Seattle has some interest in younger players but would also probably be open to a hockey trade.

I would target Byram, Benson (if he's for trade) and Peterka. Getting Tage would be awesome but would be a pipe dream. Would also love to get Samuelsson as a potential rebound player if the price was right. Would also be interested in Cozens but that 7.1m contract scares me. Lots of good pieces in Buffalo. Should probably just give it a few more years of development rather than be impatient, but that's not what we're here for on the trade board is it?

Seattle is very strong on the wings but lacks the elite talent that Buffalo has, with a lot of the same problems. Should probably also just keep developing and drafting but our ownership seems even less interested in that then the Pegulas, and again, it's the tradeboard.

I feel like Stephenson, Gourde and Eberle would help Buffalo a lot, but they're getting up there in age.

Maybe something like


Cozens
Samuelsson/Byram
Benson
Peterka


Evans
Stephenson
Eberle/Gourde/Schwartz
Wright

Hurts to give up Wright and Evans as a Seattle fan but could be a big hit if Cozens progresses and Samuelsson stops getting injured every season. For Buffalo dramatically improves them in the present, gives them a decent 1-2C combo down the middle, and frees up a lot of long term cap space. They could also win big if Wright becomes what he should, Thompson + Wright down the middle is really nice. Evans is also a really nice piece on their D who fits their team and age a lot better than anyone else they have and would probably make an excellent partner for Dahlin/Power (I believe Dahlin is better on his offside?).

Fun little thought experiment. Feels like I've been saying this for years but there's no way Buffalo isn't going to explode as a team at some point and I hope the Kraken are able to do the same. Should be fun teams to watch.

That is God Awful for Buffalo.

 

[Fjordy]

Seems like a deal could be potentially made between Seattle and Buffalo. Not necessarily for Tuch, but Seattle has plenty of guys who are vets that would look a lot better in Buffalo than they would Seattle. Seattle has some interest in younger players but would also probably be open to a hockey trade.

I would target Byram, Benson (if he's for trade) and Peterka. Getting Tage would be awesome but would be a pipe dream. Would also love to get Samuelsson as a potential rebound player if the price was right. Would also be interested in Cozens but that 7.1m contract scares me. Lots of good pieces in Buffalo. Should probably just give it a few more years of development rather than be impatient, but that's not what we're here for on the trade board is it?

Seattle is very strong on the wings but lacks the elite talent that Buffalo has, with a lot of the same problems. Should probably also just keep developing and drafting but our ownership seems even less interested in that then the Pegulas, and again, it's the tradeboard.

I feel like Stephenson, Gourde and Eberle would help Buffalo a lot, but they're getting up there in age.

Maybe something like


Cozens
Samuelsson/Byram
Benson
Peterka


Evans
Stephenson
Eberle/Gourde/Schwartz
Wright

Hurts to give up Wright and Evans as a Seattle fan but could be a big hit if Cozens progresses and Samuelsson stops getting injured every season. For Buffalo dramatically improves them in the present, gives them a decent 1-2C combo down the middle, and frees up a lot of long term cap space. They could also win big if Wright becomes what he should, Thompson + Wright down the middle is really nice. Evans is also a really nice piece on their D who fits their team and age a lot better than anyone else they have and would probably make an excellent partner for Dahlin/Power (I believe Dahlin is better on his offside?).

Fun little thought experiment. Feels like I've been saying this for years but there's no way Buffalo isn't going to explode as a team at some point and I hope the Kraken are able to do the same. Should be fun teams to watch.

LOL, it's horrible for us. Easy pass.

 

[Uberpecker]

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[Hasekperreault23]

I'm sick of this "Players who want to be here" crap. I'm not a fan of Tuch, some games he just doesn't put in the effort and just floats, he's not the problem but people overrate Tuch because of his big talk and this "players who want to be Buffalo" crap. I want players on my team who want to win, who put in the effort and will always fight for the team.

I agree Tuch has been a passenger most of the year , barely finishes a check despite his size.We need players in top 6 who are tough to play against. I wouldn't hesitate moving him in a hockey trade for right player

 

[Uberpecker]

Seems like a deal could be potentially made between Seattle and Buffalo. Not necessarily for Tuch, but Seattle has plenty of guys who are vets that would look a lot better in Buffalo than they would Seattle. Seattle has some interest in younger players but would also probably be open to a hockey trade.

I would target Byram, Benson (if he's for trade) and Peterka. Getting Tage would be awesome but would be a pipe dream. Would also love to get Samuelsson as a potential rebound player if the price was right. Would also be interested in Cozens but that 7.1m contract scares me. Lots of good pieces in Buffalo. Should probably just give it a few more years of development rather than be impatient, but that's not what we're here for on the trade board is it?

Seattle is very strong on the wings but lacks the elite talent that Buffalo has, with a lot of the same problems. Should probably also just keep developing and drafting but our ownership seems even less interested in that then the Pegulas, and again, it's the tradeboard.

I feel like Stephenson, Gourde and Eberle would help Buffalo a lot, but they're getting up there in age.

Maybe something like


Cozens
Samuelsson/Byram
Benson
Peterka


Evans
Stephenson
Eberle/Gourde/Schwartz
Wright

Hurts to give up Wright and Evans as a Seattle fan but could be a big hit if Cozens progresses and Samuelsson stops getting injured every season. For Buffalo dramatically improves them in the present, gives them a decent 1-2C combo down the middle, and frees up a lot of long term cap space. They could also win big if Wright becomes what he should, Thompson + Wright down the middle is really nice. Evans is also a really nice piece on their D who fits their team and age a lot better than anyone else they have and would probably make an excellent partner for Dahlin/Power (I believe Dahlin is better on his offside?).

Fun little thought experiment. Feels like I've been saying this for years but there's no way Buffalo isn't going to explode as a team at some point and I hope the Kraken are able to do the same. Should be fun teams to watch.

This is laughably bad for the Sabres.
Something around Power/Byram and Beniers with pieces to even things out could work, though.

 

[MOGlLNY]

If the Sabres moved Tuch they can kiss goodbye the limited fans they’ve manage to keep during this drought

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Seems like a deal could be potentially made between Seattle and Buffalo. Not necessarily for Tuch, but Seattle has plenty of guys who are vets that would look a lot better in Buffalo than they would Seattle. Seattle has some interest in younger players but would also probably be open to a hockey trade.

I would target Byram, Benson (if he's for trade) and Peterka. Getting Tage would be awesome but would be a pipe dream. Would also love to get Samuelsson as a potential rebound player if the price was right. Would also be interested in Cozens but that 7.1m contract scares me. Lots of good pieces in Buffalo. Should probably just give it a few more years of development rather than be impatient, but that's not what we're here for on the trade board is it?

Seattle is very strong on the wings but lacks the elite talent that Buffalo has, with a lot of the same problems. Should probably also just keep developing and drafting but our ownership seems even less interested in that then the Pegulas, and again, it's the tradeboard.

I feel like Stephenson, Gourde and Eberle would help Buffalo a lot, but they're getting up there in age.

Maybe something like


Cozens
Samuelsson/Byram
Benson
Peterka


Evans
Stephenson
Eberle/Gourde/Schwartz
Wright

Hurts to give up Wright and Evans as a Seattle fan but could be a big hit if Cozens progresses and Samuelsson stops getting injured every season. For Buffalo dramatically improves them in the present, gives them a decent 1-2C combo down the middle, and frees up a lot of long term cap space. They could also win big if Wright becomes what he should, Thompson + Wright down the middle is really nice. Evans is also a really nice piece on their D who fits their team and age a lot better than anyone else they have and would probably make an excellent partner for Dahlin/Power (I believe Dahlin is better on his offside?).

Fun little thought experiment. Feels like I've been saying this for years but there's no way Buffalo isn't going to explode as a team at some point and I hope the Kraken are able to do the same. Should be fun teams to watch.

Wow that’s some crazy valuation on the Seattle players. This is beyond brutal for Buffalo

 

[tsujimoto74]

Seems like a deal could be potentially made between Seattle and Buffalo. Not necessarily for Tuch, but Seattle has plenty of guys who are vets that would look a lot better in Buffalo than they would Seattle. Seattle has some interest in younger players but would also probably be open to a hockey trade.

I would target Byram, Benson (if he's for trade) and Peterka. Getting Tage would be awesome but would be a pipe dream. Would also love to get Samuelsson as a potential rebound player if the price was right. Would also be interested in Cozens but that 7.1m contract scares me. Lots of good pieces in Buffalo. Should probably just give it a few more years of development rather than be impatient, but that's not what we're here for on the trade board is it?

Seattle is very strong on the wings but lacks the elite talent that Buffalo has, with a lot of the same problems. Should probably also just keep developing and drafting but our ownership seems even less interested in that then the Pegulas, and again, it's the tradeboard.

I feel like Stephenson, Gourde and Eberle would help Buffalo a lot, but they're getting up there in age.

Maybe something like


Cozens
Samuelsson/Byram
Benson
Peterka


Evans
Stephenson
Eberle/Gourde/Schwartz
Wright

Hurts to give up Wright and Evans as a Seattle fan but could be a big hit if Cozens progresses and Samuelsson stops getting injured every season. For Buffalo dramatically improves them in the present, gives them a decent 1-2C combo down the middle, and frees up a lot of long term cap space. They could also win big if Wright becomes what he should, Thompson + Wright down the middle is really nice. Evans is also a really nice piece on their D who fits their team and age a lot better than anyone else they have and would probably make an excellent partner for Dahlin/Power (I believe Dahlin is better on his offside?).

Fun little thought experiment. Feels like I've been saying this for years but there's no way Buffalo isn't going to explode as a team at some point and I hope the Kraken are able to do the same. Should be fun teams to watch.

Yikes.

 

[Dead Coyote]

This is laughably bad for the Sabres.
Something around Power/Byram and Beniers with pieces to even things out could work, though.

Byram isn't worth close to Beniers. Power is in terms of value, probably even ahead, but a left handed offensive D is probably the last thing we need.