Tribute Alex Steeves was shot out of a canon and is here to stay.

[notbias]

Agree.

12 game sample size isn't much better. So determining Steeves NHL career based on 12 games playing 4th. line minutes is ridiculous. And those 12 games were spread over 4 years with zero opportunity to get comfortable.

Obviously, when Leafs injured come back something has to change to become Cap compliant.

Robertson requires waivers, so he's safe, or traded.

My whole argument is Steeves should be fighting for a spot at best... no issue there.

I think we agree, I just push back on the Steeves has earned anything... he's earned being the first call up.

I haven't said his career is over because he's been bad the majority of his short NHL career (12 games is not enough), just that we should pump the breaks because for the majority of his career, he didn't perform like last night.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

He's a point per game after 2 games. I say they should keep him around.

 

[ULF_55]

My whole argument is Steeves should be fighting for a spot at best... no issue there.

I think we agree, I just push back on the Steeves has earned anything... he's earned being the first call up.

I haven't said his career is over because he's been bad the majority of his short NHL career (12 games is not enough), just that we should pump the breaks because for the majority of his career, he didn't perform like last night.

Honestly, Leafs need more players making peanuts to compensate for their overpaid 1st. liners.

Robertson could be one, but he has work to do.

I hoped he'd bring more sandpaper to the game. Be more like Brendan Gallagher.
That style though has really impacted Gallagher, and he's half the player he used to be.

I'm hoping he goes on a tear and makes himself valuable at the deadline.

 

[arso40]

Honestly, Leafs need more players making peanuts to compensate for their overpaid 1st. liners.

Robertson could be one, but he has work to do.

I hoped he'd bring more sandpaper to the game. Be more like Brendan Gallagher.
That style though has really impacted Gallagher, and he's half the player he used to be.

I'm hoping he goes on a tear and makes himself valuable at the deadline.

He used to play more physical but he’s smaller always got injured he doesn’t play as soft as the other wingers though

 

[Skullz]

I’ve really liked his forechecking and tenacity. Wonderful to have a 4th line that’s not a black hole. Kampf actually looks decent when playing with speedy wingers—like we all knew two years ago.

 

[leafers]

He looks like a different player this time around. I’ve never been a big fan of his, but I like this version and if he brings it like this every night, then I wouldn’t mind him having a permanent spot.

 

[Frostitute]

Nylander and Kadri didn't need the AHL, especially Nylander and everybody knew that while he was down there, he was only down there because the Leafs were tanking Nylander was more then good enough to be on that team.

Leo Komarov was an all star and you think Nylander needed the AHL? no he didn't

They both absolutely needed the AHL. Nylander didnt know how to play on small ice and Kadri looked like a baby deer falling all over the place.

Someone wasn't paying attention.

 

[arso40]

They both absolutely needed the AHL. Nylander didnt know how to play on small ice and Kadri looked like a baby deer falling all over the place.

Someone wasn't paying attention.

Nylander didnt need it at all what are you talking about and kadri played good enough to make the team before ending up in ahl

 

[Sypher04]

Holmberg is still decidedly mediocre for what it’s worth. Nylander unselfishly gifting him two empty net goals this weekend doesn’t change anything.

Penciling Steeves in at this point is definitely premature, but I don’t agree with the thought that he has no trade value. Teams notice what players like him do in the AHL, even if many fans don’t. That’s not to say he has a lot of value, obviously if we’re moving him, he’ll need to be added to, to get anything substantial back, but he could easily be a piece teams would be interested in as part of a package.

 

[The Shadow]

Im still not convinced he's anything more than that

It’s up to him to either make it or fizzle out

I was listening to Versteeg talking and he told Hagel when they were in the AHL together that he needs to do something better than everyone else. That’s what Steeves needs to do. Be the best defensive forward on the team and his offensive game will come with that

 

[Sypher04]

While I just said that penciling Steeves in is premature and I stand by that, I do think it is interesting to see where people land on his potential as an NHLers.

It wasn’t much earlier in the season 2 years ago that many people here were clamouring for Bobby McMann to finally get his chance, and once he did, he stuck.

McMann:
At 26: Marlies 24 goals in 61 games (.393)
At 27: Marlies 21 goals in 30 games (.700)

Steeves:
24: Marlies 27 goals in 65 games (.415)
25: Marlies 29 goals in 40 games (.725)

While there isn’t a garauntee the numbers translate obviously, Steeves has better goal scoring numbers at 2 years younger and with generally much strong assist numbers as well.

 

[Community]

there's like 6 games till the deadline...

I'd run one of McMann or Steeves 2LW for the entire time, see what both can provide in that role and see if a top 9 winger is available too

we NEED a 3C, but we also need a top 9 winger or two.

I dont think we need a top 9 winger. Especially if we get a 3C. We're already crowded with options on the wings... If you can get a two-way 3C that is capable of at least .5ppg then we should be looking good.

If we add a 3C, three of Pacioretty/Domi/Steeves/Robertson/Jarnkrok will already not be playing within the top 9 when we're fully healthy.

Knies - Matthews - Marner
McMann - Tavares - Nylander
Domi - 3C - Pacioretty/Robertson/Steeves
Lorentz - Kampf/Dewar - Jarnkrok
Reeves

 

[darrylsittler27]

Steeves is playing for a contract. I think the leafs need to showcase the hell out of him and then trade him. Based on his comments in a few articles earlier this year, I doubt he resigns in Toronto, but he’s gonna get an NHL contract somewhere as a UFA. Include him in a package to get a good center.

I'm not scared to trade him.

 

[Sypher04]

I dont think we need a top 9 winger. Especially if we get a 3C. We're already crowded with options on the wings... If you can get a two-way 3C that is capable of at least .5ppg then we should be looking good.

If we add a 3C, three of Pacioretty/Domi/Steeves/Robertson/Jarnkrok will already not be playing within the top 9 when we're fully healthy.

Knies - Matthews - Marner
McMann - Tavares - Nylander
Domi - 3C - Pacioretty/Robertson/Steeves
Lorentz - Kampf/Dewar - Jarnkrok
Reeves

I don’t know that we can expect to get much of anything out of Jarnkrok when he gets back. I’d be looking to dump him, for a variety of reasons

 

[Fogelhund]

I don’t know that we can expect to get much of anything out of Jarnkrok when he gets back. I’d be looking to dump him, for a variety of reasons

I guess all we can do, is play him a few games to see if he fits here, and helps, or try and get him enough play time, to the point where someone trades for him, even if the return is "future considerations"