Alex Nylander

[Jay haller]

No finish to his game. He hustles out there but he’s an AHL talent.

i think he’s a nhl player but he’ll be a poor man’s vorachek at his peak 15-20 goals 25-35 assists while playing a solid but not physical two way game.

unfortunately he doesn’t fit on the middle six here as we have an elite nonexistent physical RW along with two other not really physical skill players.

if they could do say Nylander and 1st or Pitt’s 2nd for Virtanen and Demko you take it and run.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

This never happened. Provide a source if you are going to make some ridiculous claim like that.

Buffalo botched his development. They're terrible when it comes to developing players. They tried for three years straight to force him into the NHL lineup when he needed development at lower levels first. That's how you ruin a kid's confidence. Force him into the NHL, then when he's not good enough, you send him back down... over and over and over again.

They did that 3 seasons in a row.

One simply has to look at threads surrounding Nylander and trade to find that out and it was discussed in offseason across multiple threads and is not something new

Your own brother commented on his attitude and entitlement in this very thread

I'm not optimistic. I'm 50/50 at this point. Its 100% up to Nylander. He seems very entitled to me. I'm sure he had every opportunity in the world gifted to him growing up, given his lineage. Sometimes that's a bad thing. Maybe him sitting in the press box is the best way to break that attitude. It worked earlier in the season.

Nylander didn't put in effort when he wasn't gifted a roster spot in Buffalo and then refused to go to prospect camp before trade which was final straw for Sabres

After trade he then came to Hawks prospect camp

 

[clydesdale line]

I don't. Never have. I do like him though.

Love is reserved for players like Dylan and Ian.

You are IN LOVE with the other two. Big difference.

 

[ChiHawks10]

One simply has to look at threads surrounding Nylander and trade to find that out and it was discussed in offseason across multiple threads and is not something new

Your own brother commented on his attitude and entitlement in this very thread



Nylander didn't put in effort when he wasn't gifted a roster spot in Buffalo and then refused to go to prospect camp before trade which was final straw for Sabres

After trade he then came to Hawks prospect camp

What you are saying about him and what was discussed in threads is wrong. Period. Most the discussion on this board was about Buffalo ruining his development.

My brother said he seems entitled... far different than what you said in your post up above. And if you talk to my brother now(if he weren't banned until October), then you'd know he feels the same way about him that I do right now. He's a solid, defensively responsible, 3rd liner. With the talent to be much more.

You literally have never even given the kid a chance. You made up your mind before he ever put on a Hawks jersey, as I said before. As soon as the trade was made, it was already set in your mind that you'd never like him, and he'd never be worth a damn. And that's entirely because of the way you feel about Bowman.

The kid could turn into a 60 point two-way player, in the mold of Saad, and you'd still shit on him.

 

[Hinterland]

So sick of his bs. No purpose, just stupid turnovers and floating. Is he ever gonna sit? I don't get it. Only forward without a point, too...despite consistent powerplay time. Even if he did care, which I doubt he does, he's just not NHL material.

 

[BK]

Shocking BWC has no proof to back it up...

 

[BobbyJet]

What you are saying about him and what was discussed in threads is wrong. Period. Most the discussion on this board was about Buffalo ruining his development.

My brother said he seems entitled... far different than what you said in your post up above. And if you talk to my brother now(if he weren't banned until October), then you'd know he feels the same way about him that I do right now. He's a solid, defensively responsible, 3rd liner. With the talent to be much more.

You literally have never even given the kid a chance. You made up your mind before he ever put on a Hawks jersey, as I said before. As soon as the trade was made, it was already set in your mind that you'd never like him, and he'd never be worth a damn. And that's entirely because of the way you feel about Bowman.

The kid could turn into a 60 point two-way player, in the mold of Saad, and you'd still shit on him.

Nevertheless, Nylander should sit for game 5.

 

[clydesdale line]

Nevertheless, Nylander should sit for game 5.

I mean.. I keep telling myself Kurashev can't do what this guy is doing right now?

 

[Jay haller]

Nevertheless, Nylander should sit for game 5.

yes

 

[RayP]

Nevertheless, Nylander should sit for game 5.

Yeah I mean I’d rather see just shout anyone else at this point. He can stick handle in space and sometimes enter the zone with the pick but that’s about it.

 

[Hinterland]

I mean.. I keep telling myself Kurashev can't do what this guy is doing right now?

I couldn't think of a single good action or even shift Nylander had in these playoffs but he turns over pucks on a regular basis and his play against the puck is awful, too. Anyone on the roster could do better. Nylander is brutal. All other players are serving some kind of a purpose. Even Caggiula. Nylander doesn't.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I couldn't think of a single good action or even shift Nylander had in these playoffs but he turns over pucks on a regular basis and his play against the puck is awful, too. Anyone on the roster could do better. Nylander is brutal. All other players are serving some kind of a purpose. Even Caggiula. Nylander doesn't.

Nylander had a dreadful first period tonight.
He had 1 shot for and 15 against in the period.

If you take out that period he's been one of the Hawks better forwards in possession.
Even if you include that:

Nylander-35.29%
Toews-36.36%
Kane-38.21%

Why is all of the focus on Nylander when 19 and 88 are almost as bad? Please, explain this to me. One of these guys is a rookie and the other two have a f***ing Conn Smythe each.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Its easier to fix the Nylander problem

All we can do is hope Kane plays like he did in game 3 and Toews finds some of that play in round game

With Nylander removing him from lineup is easy and we have improvement in Kurashev sitting there waiting

 

[ChiHawks10]

Nylander had a dreadful first period tonight.
He had 1 shot for and 15 against in the period.

If you take out that period he's been one of the Hawks better forwards in possession.

His neutral zone and defensive zone play are always average or better. Most the time they're better. It's his offensive zone play that needs a ton of work, and where most complaints you'll see on here stem from. Like many say, he enters the zone strong on the puck, then immediately peels back, spins, and looks for a pass. He needs to drive wide, or try to make a move, and take it inside. He needs to assert himself more. He's not a small guy. He needs to be hard on the forecheck ALL the time, not just some of the time, and use his speed for that. He needs to use his size in the corners better in the offensive zone. If he could work on, and gain confidence in the offensive zone play, he has all the talent to be a very good middle 6 two-way player, honestly. Just don't know if he'll ever figure that part out, so he may just always end up being a 3rd line defensive specialist. I'd be ok with that if he learns to be defensively responsible enough to PK.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

His neutral zone and defensive zone play are always average or better. Most the time they're better. It's his offensive zone play that needs a ton of work, and where most complaints you'll see on here stem from. Like many say, he enters the zone strong on the puck, then immediately peels back, spins, and looks for a pass. He needs to drive wide, or try to make a move, and take it inside. He needs to assert himself more. He's not a small guy. He needs to be hard on the forecheck ALL the time, not just some of the time, and use his speed for that. He needs to use his size in the corners better in the offensive zone. If he could work on, and gain confidence in the offensive zone play, he has all the talent to be a very good middle 6 two-way player, honestly. Just don't know if he'll ever figure that part out, so he may just always end up being a 3rd line defensive specialist. I'd be ok with that if he learns to be defensively responsible enough to PK.

I think a lot of people think that Nylander is floating in the defensive zone, but from my point of view because he's the lead forechecker on his line he plays a lot of F1 so he's always the guy closest to the blueline. He's doing his job in that regard.

 

[nmgrbhfn]

The problem with Nylander is he is playing on a line with Strome and Caggiula. Imagine next year a third line with Dach or Suter at center, and Kurashev or Barrett at wing.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

The problem with Nylander is he is playing on a line with Strome and Caggiula. Imagine next year a third line with Dach or Suter at center, and Kurashev or Barrett at wing.

Nylander plays better with north-south, KISS(keep it simple, stupid) players at this point in his career.
He's looked better with Kampf and Carpenter than anyone else.

 

[clydesdale line]

The problem with Nylander is he is playing on a line with Strome and Caggiula.

Yea I feel bad for Strome.

 

[nmgrbhfn]

Yea I feel bad for Strome.

You're gonna feel even worse when Strome gets moved.

 

[clydesdale line]

You're gonna feel even worse when Strome gets moved.

I'm not Musto so... can careless.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Yea I feel bad for Strome.

If Strome could keep up with anyone on the ice other than Lucic, you wouldn't have to feel bad for either Nylander or Strome.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Nylander is used to being the most talented player on his line so maybe they should play him on the 4th line consistently until he gets some confidence back offensively. Maybe move Highmore up to the 3rd line and drop Nylander to the 4th line. Highmore has earned more minutes.

 

[Hinterland]

Nylander had a dreadful first period tonight.
He had 1 shot for and 15 against in the period.

If you take out that period he's been one of the Hawks better forwards in possession.
Even if you include that:

Nylander-35.29%
Toews-36.36%
Kane-38.21%

Why is all of the focus on Nylander when 19 and 88 are almost as bad? Please, explain this to me. One of these guys is a rookie and the other two have a f***ing Conn Smythe each.

Toews is having excellent playoffs...Kane is struggling but he's not quite as bad as Nylander.

Numbers are worth nothing without context...ask the Maple Fails.

Nylander is playing easy 3rd line minutes against weak competion and 3rd defense pairings...yet turnovers are the only thing he managed to produce these playoffs. No goals or assists...not even scoring chances. He's just floating around, picking flowers.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Toews is having excellent playoffs...Kane is struggling but he's not quite as bad as Nylander.

Numbers are worth nothing without context...ask the Maple Fails.

Nylander is playing easy 3rd line minutes against weak competion and 3rd defense pairings...yet turnovers are the only thing he managed to produce these playoffs. No goals or assists...not even scoring chances. He's just floating around, picking flowers.

Lol. Toews had a few good games against a terrible Edmonton team. He has been invisible this series. Kane has been absolute trash in both these series.

What does "Numbers are worth nothing without context" even mean?

The context says Kane Toews, and Saad have been awful outside of a few games against the Oilers, and they're pretty much the reason why we're not leading this series against Vegas. Along with Crow and his Charmin soft goals that break this team's back any time they have any momentum.

 

[clydesdale line]

Only Kane can be sucking when he has 4 points in 4 games. But from the eye test (and metrics), he absolutely has not been good at all. Just speaks to his talent though.