Confirmed with Link: Alex Newhook for 31st, 37th and Fairbrother

[Adam Michaels]

@Twisted Sinister

I know you said that this looked like a panic move after Habs didn't land PLD. At least the optics looked like that. I imagine others feel the same way.

I just wanted to say that Friedman on the 32 Podcast this morning said that at last year's draft, Habs and Avs had conversations regarding a Newhook trade. So if we're to go by his word, this wasn't as much a panic move as it was someone Habs have been interested in for at least a full year.

 

[Andrei79]

@Twisted Sinister

I know you said that this looked like a panic move after Habs didn't land PLD. At least the optics looked like that. I imagine others feel the same way.

I just wanted to say that Friedman on the 32 Podcast this morning said that at last year's draft, Habs and Avs had conversations regarding a Newhook trade. So if we're to go by his word, this wasn't as much a panic move as it was someone Habs have been interested in for at least a full year.

It doesn't even sound like management was ever really invested in Dubois, so it would be strange that they suddenly panic after missing out.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

@Twisted Sinister

I know you said that this looked like a panic move after Habs didn't land PLD. At least the optics looked like that. I imagine others feel the same way.

I just wanted to say that Friedman on the 32 Podcast this morning said that at last year's draft, Habs and Avs had conversations regarding a Newhook trade. So if we're to go by his word, this wasn't as much a panic move as it was someone Habs have been interested in for at least a full year.

Exactly. I don't think HuGo are in panic mode.

 

[Paddyjack]

Same roster + Newhook should provide another top 5 pick. Team was 15th in conference pretty much all year even with all of Guhle, Caufield, Slaf playing.

Columbus improved way more and will get a better player.
Last 4 seasons Philly finished with 30 more pts and ahead of Habs 3 out of last 4 (behind by 1 point in covid season with Habs playing the lousy Canadian teams)

Not catching Buf, Wsh or Ott. Detroit maybe?

I'm not so sure. My memory may be faulty here, but I have the impression this team was performing quite well until about December last year, and then we lost half the roster. Not saying we are a playoffs team yet but if players stay healthy I would not be surprised if we are at least in the playoffs conversation until February

 

[26Mats]

Same roster + Newhook should provide another top 5 pick. Team was 15th in conference pretty much all year even with all of Guhle, Caufield, Slaf playing.

Columbus improved way more and will get a better player.
Last 4 seasons Philly finished with 30 more pts and ahead of Habs 3 out of last 4 (behind by 1 point in covid season with Habs playing the lousy Canadian teams)

Not catching Buf, Wsh or Ott. Detroit maybe?

They were better when Monahan was healthy.

A lot depends on health.

And, next year's draft isn't as strong, especially at forward...

 

[Colezuki]

I'm not so sure. My memory may be faulty here, but I have the impression this team was performing quite well until about December last year, and then we lost half the roster. Not saying we are a playoffs team yet but if players stay healthy I would not be surprised if we are at least in the playoffs conversation until February

This is how it went as well we we're around 10th until December and then fell out of it as the injuries piled up

 

[jaffy27]

@Twisted Sinister

I know you said that this looked like a panic move after Habs didn't land PLD. At least the optics looked like that. I imagine others feel the same way.

I just wanted to say that Friedman on the 32 Podcast this morning said that at last year's draft, Habs and Avs had conversations regarding a Newhook trade. So if we're to go by his word, this wasn't as much a panic move as it was someone Habs have been interested in for at least a full year.

Precisely......

In aviation, we have a plan B in case plan A does not work out. You have your destination Airport, which is your top priority, and your Alternate airport, in case destination airport falls through.

same concept here.....PLD is your main target, but in the case that falls through, plan B was Newhook which was more then likely prepared in advance.

I love this new management as they can walk, chew gum and juggle chainsaws at the same time.

 

[Adam Michaels]

It doesn't even sound like management was ever really invested in Dubois, so it would be strange that they suddenly panic after missing out.

I'm sure they had talks and continued up until the finish line. But they were never going to budge and were clearly aware that they might never get him. So they didn't put all their focus on him and put everything else on the back burner. They had their hands in numerous pots simultaneously.

 

[Steve Shutt]

Curious what Newhook's contract might look like. Would Dach's 3.36x4 be a fair comparable?
There's an Athletic article on the topic but I don't have a subscription.

Dobberhocckey project him at 2.5M - that sounds like great value.

 

[Naslundforever]

I think they may pay a low pick to get rid of Hoffman. This team is young and things can start to fall into place, but Hoffman doesn't fit anywhere and we don't need a pouting veteran in the room.

Monahan Suzuki Caufield
Newhook Dach Anderson
Slafkovsky Dvorak Gallagher
RHP Evans Armia
Pezzetta

Is a fine lineup for the coming year. With injuries and movement, RHP won't be on the 4th all the time and would get opportunities. Pitlick can be sent to the AHL.

Not sure I’ve ever heard anything but nice things about his attitude? Seems chill, has wheels and a shot… He’s not part of any fantasy I have about future habs and have face palmed at the turn overs but I have him ahead of everyone south of Dach in that line up if I’m msl right now unfortunately…


edit - also I imagine Slaf with Moneyhands

edit 2- which means Dach-Suz-Coco - Slaf - Money - Anderson sound like a potential top 6 or they roll a 2b 2c with Dvo and Money splitting duties which is where Newhook, Hof, etc come in I feel

 

[jaffy27]

Curious what Newhook's contract might look like. Would Dach's 3.36x4 be a fair comparable?
There's an Athletic article on the topic but I don't have a subscription.

Maybe 2.75m$ X 3

 

[Milhouse40]

Friedman: I didn't see this one coming....

No shit!!!
No one saw it coming as most of Hughes trades so far

 

[Legend123]

Precisely......

In aviation, we have a plan B in case plan A does not work out. You have your destination Airport, which is your top priority, and your Alternate airport, in case destination airport falls through.

same concept here.....PLD is your main target, but in the case that falls through, plan B was Newhook which was more then likely prepared in advance.

I love this new management as they can walk, chew gum and juggle chainsaws at the same time.

why did you have the use aviation to explain the concepts of plan a and plan b

 

[sampollock]

if Kent makes a deal, he will wait till the draft floor, so the fans get ramped up LOL

 

[Natey]

As long as we get Michkov...

I'd rather Benson or Leonard along with someone like Honzek or Willander.

 

[le_sean]

Nice team but no elite talent.

Caufield is an elite talent. But they need more.

 

[NORiculous]

Caufield is an elite talent. But they need more.

Caufield can become elite, yes. He still needs to do it regularly and for full seasons.

 

[Naslundforever]

Exactly. I don't think HuGo are in panic mode.

Seized opportunity. They are giving weight to actual nhl-ready bodies, makes sense a year into their “wellness” phase. They can’t hoard every middling prospect and pick on earth either, I like that.

 

[Naslundforever]

if Kent makes a deal, he will wait till the draft floor, so the fans get ramped up LOL

He smiled at the question, and when talking draft floor scenarios it came off to me as quite probable they may try and move up (which he mentioned first… hmmmm….) or down depending on what actually happens. Deals involving picks need to happen tonight I imagine.

 

[CanadienShark]

Not a fan of this deal, but I've been wrong before and certainly will be again.

 

[sampollock]

Caufield is an elite talent. But they need more.

and a bigger size of talent.. or they need heavy players on each wing to police them

 

[Jaynki]

@Twisted Sinister

I know you said that this looked like a panic move after Habs didn't land PLD. At least the optics looked like that. I imagine others feel the same way.

I just wanted to say that Friedman on the 32 Podcast this morning said that at last year's draft, Habs and Avs had conversations regarding a Newhook trade. So if we're to go by his word, this wasn't as much a panic move as it was someone Habs have been interested in for at least a full year.

They are savvy businessman. These guy are professional running billions dollars worth franchise.

With the experience that Hughes and Gorton have. They don't panick, that's so Bergevin.

 

[jaffy27]

why did you have the use aviation to explain the concepts of plan a and plan b

as I use this plan A/B 15 to 18 times a month, it's natural that I would default to this explanation.

If I was 21 and still a doorman back in the day, I would use the Chick A and Chick B example as I worked the door 4 to 5 times a week.

Redundancy is key to success my friend

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Woke up this morning... and yup, I am still underwhelmed with this trade

 

[Wats]

This really giving me Dvorak/Shaw trade vibes. Hate seeing Avs flip the 37th for Colton.