Player Discussion Alain Vigneault Part VI

[will1066]

Give chemistry a chance!

i heard the organization developed an internal app that is on players' phones. When two players walk by each other, they get alerted if they are match.

i heard they're still fine-tuning the algorithms.

 

[McRanger]

These boards would be sour on Sutter within a season.

I wouldn't be so sure. He screams enough to make the Torts fans happy while producing good enough possession stats to make the analytics crowd happy , while he plays enough defensive hockey to help goalies and make the Hank fanboys swoon, and he's good enough with young player development to make the "look to the future" crowd content.

He just needs to chew some gum and never call a timeout and we'll be all set.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

He posts on his twitter way more frequently and does some in-game analysis too

Here’s the link:

Thanks for the link!

 

[Captain Lindy]

I wouldn't be so sure. He screams enough to make the Torts fans happy while producing good enough possession stats to make the analytics crowd happy , while he plays enough defensive hockey to help goalies and make the Hank fanboys swoon, and he's good enough with young player development to make the "look to the future" crowd content.

He just needs to chew some gum and never call a timeout and we'll be all set.

 

[Captain Lindy]

Give chemistry a chance!

i heard the organization developed an internal app that is on players' phones. When two players walk by each other, they get alerted if they are match.

i heard they're still fine-tuning the algorithms.

There ya go!!

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Alain walks into a fortunetellers booth and asks "When will I be fired?"

The fortuneteller says "It will be a holiday."

Alain momentarily chokes half to death on Dentyne Ice. He ends up being saved by the fact that he's such a clutz that he slipped on the tablecloth and landed sternum first on a chair.

He collects himself, smoothes out what’s left of his doofy hairline and asks “Where’s the bathroom?”

Confused, the fortuneteller asks “Don’t you want to know how I know you’ll be fired on a holiday?”

Without much thought, a real stretch for Vigneault, I know, he replies “Nah, I don’t really give a ****, plus I accidentally pissed myself.”

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Buchnevich didn't even play 6 minutes at 5 on 5, despite scoring a goal and drawing two penalties and having a 64% corsi at 5 on 5 in this game.

The coach needs to be held accountable for his decision making. I hope the GM is telling him to get it together, otherwise he'll get sacked.

 

[Crease]

Rangers, forget about the CDs you left in his truck and just go.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Buchnevich didn't even play 6 minutes at 5 on 5, despite scoring a goal and drawing two penalties and having a 64% corsi at 5 on 5 in this game.

The coach needs to be held accountable for his decision making. I hope the GM is telling him to get it together, otherwise he'll get sacked.

I think AV knows his time is drawing near. He seems resigned at this point.

 

[will1066]

Buchnevich didn't even play 6 minutes at 5 on 5, despite scoring a goal and drawing two penalties and having a 64% corsi at 5 on 5 in this game.

The coach needs to be held accountable for his decision making. I hope the GM is telling him to get it together, otherwise he'll get sacked.

I agree he doesn't deserve to be on the fourth line, but he got fourth-line minutes, and he got PP time. He and Grabner with Cracker got some good zone time on their shifts with the simple chip-and-chase play.

 

[will1066]

It sucks for Buch, but the lines were pretty ok tonight. Got DD and Miller going. Vesey showed some life in a long time. Hayes was good.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

I'm over him. Just forget about the CDs you left in his trunk and go.

To paraphrase A Bronx Tale:

For a few CD's a blown Stanley Cup Finals, several blown PO series and a few ruined prospects he and his Rogaine half measure haircut are outta your life

 

[Inferno]

they didnt play 60 minutes yet again and it cost them.

talk about henrik..talk about whatever you want...but they came out flat...AGAIN. its basically every single game this season so far. flat and sluggish to start.

FIRE AV

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

It sucks for Buch, but the lines were pretty ok tonight. Got DD and Miller going. Vesey showed some life in a long time. Hayes was good.

You don't put one of your best forwards on the 4th line, unless you divide ice time by ability of the players, not the line they are playing on, which is something AV doesn't do.

You can say the lines were good, but we lost, and he had one of his best forwards playing the second least minutes on the team while playing him on the 4th line, during a game he was really good. Terrible coaching.

 

[RGY]

Still here? Damn. Thought he would be gone by now.

1-5-1. Please spare us. Enough is enough. We will not win with him as coach. This team does not respect him otherwise they wouldn’t be giving up goals in the first minute of every game.

 

[Off Sides]

You don't put one of your best forwards on the 4th line, unless you divide ice time by ability of the players, not the line they are playing on, which is something AV doesn't do.

You can say the lines were good, but we lost, and he had one of his best forwards playing the second least minutes on the team while playing him on the 4th line, during a game he was really good. Terrible coaching.

This I can agree with mostly, if this season is going the way it is, they need to try to develop Buch. I think the problem is which center do they put him where he can develop? Not on the 4th line but Zbad and Hayes both kind of stink defensively. Putting them with either of those two means everything gets blamed on Buch even when it's the centers fault. If they had a good two way center, playing Buch with him and then putting a decent play maker on the other side would make sense, but they don't.

 

[True Blue]

Give chemistry a chance!

i heard the organization developed an internal app that is on players' phones. When two players walk by each other, they get alerted if they are match.

i heard they're still fine-tuning the algorithms.

What part of the inputs include giveaways and no defense?

 

[True Blue]

talk about henrik..talk about whatever you want...but they came out flat...AGAIN. its basically every single game this season so far. flat and sluggish to start.

Let's be frank, that is not a new thing and has been happening for several years.

It's beginning to look like Vancouver all over again.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

This I can agree with mostly, if this season is going the way it is, they need to try to develop Buch. I think the problem is which center do they put him where he can develop? Not on the 4th line but Zbad and Hayes both kind of stink defensively. Putting them with either of those two means everything gets blamed on Buch even when it's the centers fault. If they had a good two way center, playing Buch with him and then putting a decent play maker on the other side would make sense, but they don't.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich never should have been broken up, they were doing great, AV is clueless.

Defensively? Yeah, not the best, but you expect your top line to score points, defense comes second, thats why you have shutdown lines. I don't know how the answer defensively is Desharnais in the top 6.

 

[Inferno]

Let's be frank, that is not a new thing and has been happening for several years.

It's beginning to look like Vancouver all over again.

which is one of MANY reasons i've been on the fire AV bandwagon for 3+ years now.

 

[Edge]

Still here? Damn. Thought he would be gone by now.

1-5-1. Please spare us. Enough is enough. We will not win with him as coach. This team does not respect him otherwise they wouldn’t be giving up goals in the first minute of every game.

Like I said, we are in the two week zone that's going to be critical.

With that said, they drop the next two and I think he's toast.

 

[LeetchisGod]

I am looking forward to the day when this thread will be closed for good.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

You don't put one of your best forwards on the 4th line, unless you divide ice time by ability of the players, not the line they are playing on, which is something AV doesn't do.

You can say the lines were good, but we lost, and he had one of his best forwards playing the second least minutes on the team while playing him on the 4th line, during a game he was really good. Terrible coaching.

Buchnevich is not one of the team's best players at even strength. Far from it. You should consider his 1st PP minutes a blessing at this point.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

which is one of MANY reasons i've been on the fire AV bandwagon for 3+ years now.

On the bandwagon fresh off a Cup final appearance and before a President's trophy winning season? What a pioneer. You must be proud.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich never should have been broken up, they were doing great, AV is clueless.

Defensively? Yeah, not the best, but you expect your top line to score points, defense comes second, thats why you have shutdown lines. I don't know how the answer defensively is Desharnais in the top 6.

Nice. A mentality like this causes plenty of games like the debacle in Toronto.