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Stone Clode said:
I absolutely think there's a chance he re-signs. That wasn't my point. I was just really curious if Dan had a Mercedes or not. :laugh:
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He does. Funny story about it. When he and his daughter came up for an OHL game, I met them at their hotel. It was a 20 minute drive to the arena. He didn't want to take the Mercedes so we had to drive in my AMC Gremlin. (Yes I own one of them still).

Peter Chiarelli bought it for him :laugh:
 
Dom - OHL said:
He does. Funny story about it. When he and his daughter came up for an OHL game, I met them at their hotel. It was a 20 minute drive to the arena. He didn't want to take the Mercedes so we had to drive in my AMC Gremlin. (Yes I own one of them still).

Peter Chiarelli bought it for him :laugh:
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A Gremlin?? Why do you willingly drive one of those? :laugh:

If they do sign McQuaid though, that's about 17.4 million (assuming McQuaid signs for 3 mill a year) tied up to 4 defenseman without Hamilton being signed. You sign him, and you're at 22-23 million for 5 defensemen, 2 of them trending down on their career arcs. With a defense that was as suspect as theirs last season, why do you try to lock them up for even longer? Especially at the sacrifice of one or two forwards, a group which was 23rd in the league in scoring?
 
Hali33 said:
Financially this is probably not smart. There are cheaper candidates to replace a bottom pairing defenseman and health concerns.

But selfishly McQuaid is one of my favourite players and represented an element that was pretty important to me. McQuaid will stand up for anyone against anyone. He doesn't pick and choose and he didn't stop battling towards the end of the season when it felt like the team was giving up.

If anything leaving was going to make this team unbearably soft, it would be the loss of this guy, more than the loss of Lucic in that aspect.
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This is why I would have to lean towards that McQuaid will remain a Bruin.
I for one, would love to see them ink him here at a reasonable contract and be part of the new direction this organization is aiming for.
It is simple,McQuaid is all heart and soul with the right amount of nastiness.
 
Estlin said:
For an injury-prone third-pairing defenseman? I don't know if that's a wise decision. On the other hand, maybe if Boston unloads Lucic then it wants to retain some toughness in the form of McQuaid.
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It's a black with gold trim Maybach limited- license plate Knight50.

Really hope they sign McQuaid. My niece has a huge crush and not up for the fallout

Btw bet my steak & cheese with peppers, onions, and mushroom wrap for lunch that Chia has already tampered with McQuaid agent
 
I've often been on his case for providing little outside of toughness and handling pucks like a grenade.

This season he flipped a switch and noticeably played the best hockey of his career. He didn't play hot potato with the puck, made crisp breakout passes and even carried the puck out of our zone 1,000,000% more times than ever before.

He's still 'just' a 5-6 but he is a 5-6 I have confidence in for something other than fighting.

If he wants over 2 million it might be too much, but I'd like him staying.
 
PatriceBergeronFan said:
I've often been on his case for providing little outside of toughness and handling pucks like a grenade.

This season he flipped a switch and noticeably played the best hockey of his career. He didn't play hot potato with the puck, made crisp breakout passes and even carried the puck out of our zone 1,000,000% more times than ever before.

He's still 'just' a 5-6 but he is a 5-6 I have confidence in for something other than fighting.

If he wants over 2 million it might be too much, but I'd like him staying.
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Hes probably going to get something similar to Reilly Smith and will be overpaid roughly by the same amount Smith is. (My guess is he turns down 4 mil from another team to sign for us at 3.5 sometime first couple days of July.)


Which is fine I want to keep McQuaid. We will need him unless Seidenberg returns to 100% and plays like he is in his prime again and it isn't that easy to find a replacement the UFA crop is awful. Any deal that isn't outrageous and doesn't contain NTC/NMC's is good with me though would be brutal asset management to let him walk for nothing.
 
It's getting close to the end of June, looks like he is going to the open market, Chia will sign him in Edmonton I bet.
 
MarshmontMcSlewfoot said:
Hes probably going to get something similar to Reilly Smith and will be overpaid roughly by the same amount Smith is. (My guess is he turns down 4 mil from another team to sign for us at 3.5 sometime first couple days of July.)


Which is fine I want to keep McQuaid. We will need him unless Seidenberg returns to 100% and plays like he is in his prime again and it isn't that easy to find a replacement the UFA crop is awful. Any deal that isn't outrageous and doesn't contain NTC/NMC's is good with me though would be brutal asset management to let him walk for nothing.
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3.5 million isn't outrageous for a team with adequate cap space, but for a team like the Bruins with adequate replacements in the system for that 3rd pair RD spot, it's ridiculous.
 
BruinDust said:
3.5 million isn't outrageous for a team with adequate cap space, but for a team like the Bruins with adequate replacements in the system for that 3rd pair RD spot, it's ridiculous.
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espc. when Bruins have cheaper in house options like Miller, Trotman, Morrow....
 
Sturm said:
espc. when Bruins have cheaper in house options like Miller, Trotman, Morrow....
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Trotman and Morrow do not bring toughness like McQuaid does, you can't even compare those two to McQuaid. Miller is OK but not as good as McQuaid, not as tough or as smart defensively.

I like Morrow but he should not be looked at as a replacement for McQuaid.
 
Fenian24 said:
Trotman and Morrow do not bring toughness like McQuaid does, you can't even compare those two to McQuaid. Miller is OK but not as good as McQuaid, not as tough or as smart defensively.

I like Morrow but he should not be looked at as a replacement for McQuaid.
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Miller can bring the toughness, but he's in the same boat as McQuaid in terms of health/durabilty. Would I like him back? Hell yea. Can the Bruins afford to pay a 3D $3,000,000 a season, no.
 
Sturm said:
Miller can bring the toughness, but he's in the same boat as McQuaid in terms of health/durabilty. Would I like him back? Hell yea. Can the Bruins afford to pay a 3D $3,000,000 a season, no.
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Depends what you move, lots of dead weight at forward, Smith, Kelly, Savard's contract free up a lot of cap space.
 
Fenian24 said:
Depends what you move, lots of dead weight at forward, Smith, Kelly, Savard's contract free up a lot of cap space.
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No, it doesn't. Even after moving Smith, Kelly, Savard, that money is better spent on something that isn't a bottom pairing defenseman.

And to further the point about upside. McQuaid doesn't even have DEFENSIVE upside. Even down the stretch when Hamilton was hurt and our right handed options were basically Seidenberg, McQuaid, and Trotman, he was still barely getting 18 a night, and he's 28 years old.

This will be an interesting use case for the Sweeney era, because in almost every similar situation for Chiarelli (excepting maybe Ference) PC re-upped the player and we almost instantly regretted the contract (Kelly, Paille, Campbell, Thornton).
 
InterimGM said:
No, it doesn't. Even after moving Smith, Kelly, Savard, that money is better spent on something that isn't a bottom pairing defenseman.

And to further the point about upside. McQuaid doesn't even have DEFENSIVE upside. Even down the stretch when Hamilton was hurt and our right handed options were basically Seidenberg, McQuaid, and Trotman, he was still barely getting 18 a night, and he's 28 years old.

This will be an interesting use case for the Sweeney era, because in almost every similar situation for Chiarelli (excepting maybe Ference) PC re-upped the player and we almost instantly regretted the contract (Kelly, Paille, Campbell, Thornton).
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On a pathetically soft team that lacks leadership and toughness Adam McQuaid is an important part of the team. Unless Sweeney is planning on adding a tougher 3rd pairing D for less money that stands up for his teammates, hits and fights he should be resigned.

For everybody that wanted Thornton gone so badly last off season, even though he is clearly at the end of his career, tell me he wouldn't have made this team tougher and brought more leadership than Seth Griffin or Simon Gagne.

Team has lost leadership and toughness over and over the past three off seasons, at some point it has to stop.
 
Fenian24 said:
On a pathetically soft team that lacks leadership and toughness Adam McQuaid is an important part of the team. Unless Sweeney is planning on adding a tougher 3rd pairing D for less money that stands up for his teammates, hits and fights he should be resigned.

For everybody that wanted Thornton gone so badly last off season, even though he is clearly at the end of his career, tell me he wouldn't have made this team tougher and brought more leadership than Seth Griffin or Simon Gagne.

Team has lost leadership and toughness over and over the past three off seasons, at some point it has to stop.
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If the answer to your toughness and leadership problems is paying a 3rd pairing D who isn't particularly good at D $2+m dollars, then chances are, you're going to continue to have those problems. Sorry. He's also basically made of glass. Poor asset management.

The issue wasn't losing Thornton. It as trying to replace him with Bobby Robins and Simon Gagne. It was not drafting nearly well enough that there weren't ready made players to step in.

Sweeney is actually addressing that with cheap guys who can add a little grit, and can be shuttled in and out of the lineup when they aren't playing well. You sign McQuaid and you're basically stuck with a shaky defenseman all for a little (sometimes misguided) snarl after the whistle.
 
InterimGM said:
If the answer to your toughness and leadership problems is paying a 3rd pairing D who isn't particularly good at D $2+m dollars, then chances are, you're going to continue to have those problems. Sorry. He's also basically made of glass. Poor asset management.

The issue wasn't losing Thornton. It as trying to replace him with Bobby Robins and Simon Gagne. It was not drafting nearly well enough that there weren't ready made players to step in.

Sweeney is actually addressing that with cheap guys who can add a little grit, and can be shuttled in and out of the lineup when they aren't playing well. You sign McQuaid and you're basically stuck with a shaky defenseman all for a little (sometimes misguided) snarl after the whistle.
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I agree with this about Thornton and the Bruins poor drafting in general, but answer me this regarding McQuaid, why would other GM's look to pay him what many are projecting him getting (3mil +) if he brings so little to the table?
 
Fenian24 said:
I agree with this about Thornton and the Bruins poor drafting in general, but answer me this regarding McQuaid, why would other GM's look to pay him what many are projecting him getting (3mil +) if he brings so little to the table?
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NHL GM's do a lot of stupid things I can't explain.
 
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