Well I do. Hes already a #2. He played on a very good top pairing for the Devils the last 2 seasons.
At 23 there is no reason why he should be a bonifide #1 at age 25.
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Well I do. Hes already a #2. He played on a very good top pairing for the Devils the last 2 seasons.
At 23 there is no reason why he should be a bonifide #1 at age 25.
We are discussing Oiler players. The normal rules dont apply. Is Larsson the 30th best defender in the league? Probably not.
In 2 years? Yeah.
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Really? Wow. Not saying that in a bad way towards Larsson or Toffoli but as a Sharks fan I like Toffoli. He's a hard worker with a lot of skill and a great shot so I'm just surprised to see an LA fan would be willing to give him up for Larsson. And I don't mean that in a way like "why the **** would you trade him for Larsson?" I mean that in a way that I'm actually legitimately curious about how good Adam Larsson really is because whether people think it was a dumb trade or not Chiarelli had to have seen something really good in Larsson that he traded Hall for him. I'll be honest, I haven't watched Larsson at all so I really don't know how good he is. Devils fans?
Is he a 2, 3, 4? Whatever. I just know that when he was in New Jersey, fans spoke very highly about him, and how crucial he was to their D. I think that after we see him play we'll start to realize the impact that a 22+Mnute/night guy can have on our team.
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Edmonton fans kept saying Klefbom is a #3 or even top pairing D because of his advanced stats, shouldnt we use the same metrics when evaluating Larsson?
Other than different team, different conference, different matchups... Also please show me accurate advanced stats for blue liners.
I believe in the eye test only. Stats are for forwards. Blueliners get graded according to who they get to play against.
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Edmonton fans kept saying Klefbom is a #3 or even top pairing D because of his advanced stats, shouldnt we use the same metrics when evaluating Larsson?
I don't think people were saying that about Klefbom because of his advanced stats. They were saying it because he was playing top pairing minutes and excelling in that role before he got injured/infected. Not that I expect him to follow the same development path, but he's pretty damn close to where Josi was at in his 22 year old season. I don't think he'll make the same type of leap that Josi made, especially considering he missed over half the year of development, but my god the kids young just like Larsson. Every other fanbase talks up their young 20-21-22 year old D who have not taken the next step and are still riding on potential. I'm not sure why its so absurd that Edmonton fans do it for Klefbom.
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Ben Hutton has equal value to Adam Larsson? did I read that correctly?
Adam Larsson is a #2 DMan right now, at age 23. He is probably better defensively than many other #1 DMen throughout the league. However, I realize that to be classified as a legit #1 you need to put up 40+ points and Larsson has not done that. With proper ice time splits (PP time O-zone starts, etc.) I believe that he can, but we obviously cannot call him that until he does it.
Those calling Larsson a #4 are out to lunch.
Adam Larsson is a #2 DMan right now, at age 23. He is probably better defensively than many other #1 DMen throughout the league. However, I realize that to be classified as a legit #1 you need to put up 40+ points and Larsson has not done that. With proper ice time splits (PP time O-zone starts, etc.) I believe that he can, but we obviously cannot call him that until he does it.
Those calling Larsson a #4 are out to lunch.
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He's a number 2 on the NJD, however since he was traded to the Oilers he becomes a number 4 D man, why you ask? Because Oilers.
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Sure. They could have had Severson from the same team for the price of RNH, but they wanted someone they knew could anchor the top pairing and so they paid what it took to get it.
Larsson is a young top pairing RHD. Those are the most valuable asset in the league. I'm not surprised by what it took to get him out of NJ.
Ben Hutton outplayed Dan Hamhuis this year, whom I'd consider a #4 d-man at this point. He's also penciled in as the #3 of this upcoming season ahead of Erik Gudbranson. He represented Canada in the IIHF World Championship as a rookie.
Adam Larsson may have been a #2 on the Devils roster, but on a majority of teams I believe he'd be lower on the depth chart than that.
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thats just not true and you have nothing to back it up
please list the teams that Larsson would be a consistent 2nd pairing DMan on. I will wait.
CornKicker
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obviously vancouver dude cant you read
Hutton-Hamhuis
Tanev- Edler
Larsson
just like that Larsson is barely a 5
cause vancouver
So are you confident in putting Ben Hutton up against Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Tavarez etc? That's who Larsson was regularly up against last season on the top pairing for 22 mins a night.
Larsson's offensive game is average, but it is perfectly within his capabilities to be one of the top 5 best defenseman in the league defensively. Considering he's not on my team anymore, I have no reason to sell him like that other than that I truly believe it having watched every game of his career.
Oh, do stop crying about it. Value right now is still in potential. He might not be a #2 on most playoff teams right now but he's 23 and last season showed why he was an early pick. Oilers would want a gonna be there soon 23 year old over a 27 year old already there with the timeline they're looking at.
CornKicker
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exactly,
when mcdavid is 21-25 Larsson will be in his prime 27-31, that fits the oilers perfectly
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Just want to point out that Larsson turns 24 on November 12, basically a month into next season.
MikeModano9
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Canuck fans are all Tanev>> Larsson. But in their own thread most are willing to trade him in a deal for Barrie. I wouldn't even think of trading Larsson for Barrie from an Oilers pov.
after all the speculation regarding Larsson, regardless of how you feel about what he is or what his potential is...
I think we can all agree Andy Greene is the man. I used to think he was underrated but its good to see other fans acknowledging his awesomeness.
I think we can all agree Andy Greene is the man. I used to think he was underrated but its good to see other fans acknowledging his awesomeness.
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theranfordflop
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I'd agree, maybe a small add either way depending on need, but in general, I'd say he's worth somewhere in that range.
