Value of: Adam henrique

[Legend123]

Zacha is 19 playing in the NHL? What are you talking about?

hahha De la rose played at 19 y/o and Big Mac at 20 y/o in the NHL. Bad answer.

 

[CHaracter79]

Both will be 22 before the season is over.

Than when you consider De LaRose has never really produced in the AHL and McCarron is producing about the same rate as another bust Stafan Matteau...That is not a package that gets you a 30 goal scorer and a regular NHL defenseman.

It would be delusional to think otherwise.

The offer for HEnrique wasnt great...JDLR value is at its lowest since he played 50 games as a 19 year old in the nhl. HE is probably our best defensive forward in the system and will make a very good 4th line center on year. he has isze and speed and can play physical but to trade someone when they have no value makes zero sense anyway

JDLR and BigMac can't be considered busts though.21 years old is not an age you can call someone a bust. McC doesn thave many comparables. he is 6'7 240 and can actualyl skate for his size. he has the tools and as a 20 year old in the AHL put up 40 points in 60 games playing a new position. he has had a slow start but guys his size take a little longer. I wouldnt risk in trading him either way.

But the way people see things in here its liek they expect to get MCdavid as a trade for Henrqiue

HE is a solid player and would to have him ont he second like seeign as how he is a 25-30 goal scorer. Well he has only done it twice in 6 seasons but they are recent. HE is the New Jersey version of Plekanec with slightly worse numbers. his value is underated ont hese boards by everyone other then jersey fans.

they just over rate his value a tad.

 

[MoonDragn]

Why are we discussing Henrique? There is a very good chance that his wrist is injured again and that's why he's in a slump. Once he heals up he'll be producing again.

 

[CHaracter79]

Zacha is 19 playing in the NHL? What are you talking about?

so did JDLR. got 6 points in 30 games or soemthign liek that. but he is not a point getter. he is a defensive center that will never see PP time and probably have about 9-11 minutes 5v5 per game with PK time.

 

[JimEIV]

hahha De la rose played at 19 y/o and Big Mac at 20 y/o in the NHL. Bad answer.

Zacha has as many NHL points as both of them combined in a 1/3 of the games LOL

 

[Zippy316]

Both will be 22 before the season is over.

Than when you consider De LaRose has never really produced in the AHL and McCarron is producing about the same rate as another bust Stafan Matteau...That is not a package that gets you a 30 goal scorer and a regular NHL defenseman.

It would be delusional to think otherwise.

I'm not going to argue about De La Rose, but comparing McCarron to Matteau is a bit delusional. McCarron has outproduced Matteau every step of the way.

I don't think that proposal is fair, but McCarron is far from a bust. The main value from that deal comes from McCarron and the MTL first. When you subtract the fact that the Devils are adding a 2nd, that value alone is not enough to get Henrique, let alone Henrique + Moore, especially when the difference between the two picks is likely to be ~10-15 picks the way this season is trending.

 

[CHaracter79]

Zacha has as many NHL points as both of them combined in a 1/3 of the games LOL

so you expect to get a top 5 pick value wise as well as other parts for henrique.

would you trade zacha for a 25 goal scorer?

the idea is to improve a team. you cant expect to trade crsoby for ovechkin or those types of trades.

whats your assessment on value of Henrqiue?

kessel brought back Spalling 1st and top prospect for himself and a 2nd.

are you expecting to receive a top prospect and a first?

soemthign along those lines?

 

[Curufinwe]

Devils don't have the talent up front to help Schenn produce like he did last year with Giroux. Well, he would, but Hall plays the same position

Schenn prefers center and RW.

And he scored a better rate at 5 on 5 with Couturier than with Giroux.

 

[JimEIV]

so did JDLR. got 6 points in 30 games or soemthign liek that. but he is not a point getter. he is a defensive center that will never see PP time and probably have about 9-11 minutes 5v5 per game with PK time.

7 points in 55 games. And he can't produce at the AHL level. Defensive centers can score in the AHL. He is averagig 0.33 ppg in the AHL and that typically does't spell NHL player.

You look at NJ's defensive Swede center Jacob Josefson (who is also a bust) he averaged .67 ppg game in the AHL and can't score to save his life at the NHL level. De La Rose will probably be back in the SEL next year or the year after.

 

[JimEIV]

so you expect to get a top 5 pick value wise as well as other parts for henrique.

would you trade zacha for a 25 goal scorer?

the idea is to improve a team. you cant expect to trade crsoby for ovechkin or those types of trades.

whats your assessment on value of Henrqiue?

kessel brought back Spalling 1st and top prospect for himself and a 2nd.

are you expecting to receive a top prospect and a first?

soemthign along those lines?

Kessel was in large part a salary dump and considered a locker-room(attitude) problem. Henrique is the exact opposite. He is on a great contract and widely viewed as a leader.

I would expect serviceable NHL players in return for Henrique. If NJ is giving up Henrique it would be to address a need. Spare parts do not help NJ. Weak prospect help even less. Those prospects wouldn't even be top 5 or 6 forward prospects on NJ depth chart.

 

[CHaracter79]

7 points in 55 games. And he can't produce at the AHL level. Defensive centers can score in the AHL. He is averagig 0.33 ppg in the AHL and that typically does't spell NHL player.

You look at NJ's defensive Swede center Jacob Josefson (who is also a bust) he averaged .67 ppg game in the AHL and can't score to save his life at the NHL level. De La Rose will probably be back in the SEL next year or the year after.

30 games 6 points as 19 year old.. i clearly stated that.

never said he played total of 30 games.

 

[CHaracter79]

Kessel was in large part a salary dump and considered a locker-room(attitude) problem. Henrique is the exact opposite. He is on a great contract and widely viewed as a leader.

I would expect serviceable NHL players in return for Henrique. If NJ is giving up Henrique it would be to address a need. Spare parts do not help NJ. Weak prospect help even less. Those prospects wouldn't even be top 5 or 6 forward prospects on NJ depth chart.

Kessel was not a cap dump. it was a TML wants Austom MAtthews Dump lets get rid of our players. and the locker room hogwash comes only from a few media members in TO. never had issues in Bos. Never had issues in Pitts. KEssel was a 35 goal scorer for 3 seasons nefore being dealt. Henrique alsoonly hit 30 once. last year

that JDLR trade was poor value not because they are busts. but because they arent proven yet. whethewr that works out or not who knows. Mac is a big ? so i wouldnt trade him

like i offered

DD
1st
BEaulieu
scherbak or Juulsen
6th (for taking DD)

for

Henrique
merril


just wondering what your opinion is on that...

 

[cwede]

obviously you don't build your best team worrying about player friendships,
but i cannot see Shero sending Henrique away, so soon after bringing in Hall

unless he gets an offer he can't refuse,
which i believe would have to include a young high-upside forward ready to assume AH's minutes, aside form Galchenyuk, Habs dont have such a guy to offer

McCarron and a 1st is a strong value,
but not what Devs need,
to contend to fight for playoff spot, they'd need a top 6 F back ...
but being realistic, they'd need him to be young

 

[JimEIV]

Kessel was not a cap dump. it was a TML wants Austom MAtthews Dump lets get rid of our players. and the locker room hogwash comes only from a few media members in TO. never had issues in Bos. Never had issues in Pitts. KEssel was a 35 goal scorer for 3 seasons nefore being dealt. Henrique alsoonly hit 30 once. last year

that JDLR trade was poor value not because they are busts. but because they arent proven yet. whethewr that works out or not who knows. Mac is a big ? so i wouldnt trade him

like i offered

DD
1st
BEaulieu
scherbak or Juulsen
6th (for taking DD)

for

Henrique
merril


just wondering what your opinion is on that...

It is better in terms of value but there is still no reason for NJ to do this.

This does not address any need for NJ nor does it make them better.

 

[Zippy316]

Kessel was not a cap dump. it was a TML wants Austom MAtthews Dump lets get rid of our players. and the locker room hogwash comes only from a few media members in TO. never had issues in Bos. Never had issues in Pitts. KEssel was a 35 goal scorer for 3 seasons nefore being dealt. Henrique alsoonly hit 30 once. last year

that JDLR trade was poor value not because they are busts. but because they arent proven yet. whethewr that works out or not who knows. Mac is a big ? so i wouldnt trade him

like i offered

DD
1st
BEaulieu
scherbak or Juulsen
6th (for taking DD)

for

Henrique
merril


just wondering what your opinion is on that...

That's incredibly overpayment on Montreals part, but I still don't think there's any incentive or reason for the Devils to do that.

We're trading Henrique, one of our more reliable players, relatively young, and important in the locker room, with no immediate replacement. That being said, Henrique isn't really a good enough forward that it makes sense for a team like Montreal to trade a replacement that the Devils would need.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I would expect serviceable NHL players in return for Henrique. If NJ is giving up Henrique it would be to address a need. Spare parts do not help NJ. Weak prospect help even less. Those prospects wouldn't even be top 5 or 6 forward prospects on NJ depth chart.

I haven't seen Henrique play a whole lot, but would you take Jordan Eberle for him?

 

[CHaracter79]

That's incredibly overpayment on Montreals part, but I still don't think there's any incentive or reason for the Devils to do that.

We're trading Henrique, one of our more reliable players, relatively young, and important in the locker room, with no immediate replacement. That being said, Henrique isn't really a good enough forward that it makes sense for a team like Montreal to trade a replacement that the Devils would need.

The main idea of this thread was to see where NJ fans stood on HEnrique based on value. I never made a proposal. soemone else did.. A poor proposal at that and the poster in question just negatively talked about the players in that proposal without taking into consideration that 21 is not an age to be a bust at yet.. unless your expectations are to be a top 3 forward or top 2 dman.

I then made that proposal to see his reaction knowing full well that i would never even considering giving up a 1st, beaulieu and one of our 1st rounders of 2015 or 2014

Kessel didnt get that return. I doubt many teams would offer as much for a player like HEnrique.. who i really like.. and would slide in great on our second line. I just wish the thread could have actually been a discussion on his value instead of random horrible proposals. at least i learned that if a player cant get points in the AHL then he will never make the NHL

 

[CHaracter79]

I haven't seen Henrique play a whole lot, but would you take Jordan Eberle for him?

Eberle >>> Henrique

 

[Superlative Soup]

Eberle >>> Henrique

In your hockey pool, maybe. If you're trying to actually win hockey games, no way.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Henrique isn't going anywhere

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Eberle >>> Henrique

Ahh, the arbitrary arrows. Such concise analysis.

Henrique isn't going anywhere. Too important to the team, and no one will pay the price that'll make it worth us moving him.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

The main idea of this thread was to see where NJ fans stood on HEnrique based on value. I never made a proposal. soemone else did.. A poor proposal at that and the poster in question just negatively talked about the players in that proposal without taking into consideration that 21 is not an age to be a bust at yet.. unless your expectations are to be a top 3 forward or top 2 dman.

I then made that proposal to see his reaction knowing full well that i would never even considering giving up a 1st, beaulieu and one of our 1st rounders of 2015 or 2014

Kessel didnt get that return. I doubt many teams would offer as much for a player like HEnrique.. who i really like.. and would slide in great on our second line. I just wish the thread could have actually been a discussion on his value instead of random horrible proposals. at least i learned that if a player cant get points in the AHL then he will never make the NHL

The point is we're not taking prospects and picks for Henrique youll have to give up a roster player and a good one at that.

 

[covfefe]

That is horrible...I wouldn't trade you John Moore alone for that package. Hell, Boston's 2nd is more valuable than any individual piece in your proposal, let alone Henrique.

Our first smells bad or something? Love to hear how a 2nd round pick is more valuable than a 1st

 

[Nightrain]

Eberle >>> Henrique

Awww, you were doing well there for a while, then you had to do this.

 

[burrythebiscuit*]

What about something like Tatar , sorta hard trade value for me to gauge though. Shake up of chemistry