GunnarStahl
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Value of: Adam Henrique at 50% retained
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John Mandalorian
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With the next year being also a tight cap, I can definitely see him having value. If teams are going to give up a 1st + +, they might prefer to go with guys who have term.
He won't bring back a 1st. Teams just aren't moving those for a Henrique type of player. Good player, solid depth, I think his value maxes out at a 2nd - even with retention. Maybe a mid-prospect.
I think Devils have interest there, and maybe someone like Kulikov as well.
Henrique (30-50% retention) and Kulikov
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2nd
5th
Nolan Foote
John Mandalorian
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Maybe, and if so, that probably enhances his appeal. I can see the Avs having interest. Paying assets for rentals with a very tight cap is how teams end up here.
Djp
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he will not bring back a 1st even at 50% with 2+ yrs left.
eho has $3M in open cap space? Subeditor if you take back a horrrndous contract back you might have takers.
thr other issue is because his real money= cap hit…bringing in another team to retain will cost more.
Kane snd Toews are UFAs this year and money owed is about half ehat Henrique is this year.
thst extra year of salary will hurt his value significantly. Next season as a UFAto be you might get back a 2nd if he’s doing well.
I, like many Devils fans, have everlasting love for Henrique. Henrique has a limited NTC, so I'd be curious if he's interested in moving at this deadline. He and his wife just had their first kid a couple months ago and I can only imagine how hectic it would be to move with a newborn.
That said, for the lolz......
We'd need to free up a roster spot in order to do it hypothetically. One thought I had:
SEA: C Erik Haula (1 x 2.375)
NJD: SEA3 (2023), $50 Starbucks gift card
I think it was Elliottte Friedman who mentioned that Seattle has been looking for a center specifically for faceoff prowess. Seattle doesn't have anybody over 50% and Haula (54.8% this season) could fit the bill. Haula would be on an expiring contract, so he wouldn't be blocking Shane Wright next year.
NJD: C/LW Adam Henrique (2 x 2.91)
ANA: LW Andreas Johnsson (1 x 3.4), NJD2 (2023), SEA3 (2023)
Johnsson would just go the other way for cap purposes. He's actually making the league minimum in salary, so he'd cost as much as any AHL callup. Anaheim could let him go after the season. Johnsson would probably appreciate some NHL ice time to audition for his next contract.
2nd+3rd was a recurring joke among Devils fans since Ray Shero did a handful of those deals (Marcus Johansson, Nikita Gusev). Henrique could slide up and down the lineup at LW/C as needed, but hopefully provide more goal scoring than Haula has thus far. Haula got a lot of time on Hughes' line if only to help out in the faceoff dot. Henrique could fit that role too.
New Jersey would still have some cap room for another trade *looks vaguely in San Jose's direction*
Ballpark lines:
Seattle
Burakovsky-Beniers-Eberle
Schwartz-Wennberg-McCann
Tolvanen-Gourde-Bjorkstrand
Tanev-Haula-Sprong
Donato-Geekie
New Jersey
Henrique-Hughes-Bratt
Palat-Hischier-Tatar
Sharangovich-Boqvist-Mercer
Wood-McLeod-Bastian
Zetterlund
Anaheim
Vatrano-McTavish-Terry
Comtois-Zegras-Strome
Johnsson-Lundestrom-Silfverberg
Jones-(Carrick/Megna)-Leason
That said, for the lolz......
We'd need to free up a roster spot in order to do it hypothetically. One thought I had:
SEA: C Erik Haula (1 x 2.375)
NJD: SEA3 (2023), $50 Starbucks gift card
I think it was Elliottte Friedman who mentioned that Seattle has been looking for a center specifically for faceoff prowess. Seattle doesn't have anybody over 50% and Haula (54.8% this season) could fit the bill. Haula would be on an expiring contract, so he wouldn't be blocking Shane Wright next year.
NJD: C/LW Adam Henrique (2 x 2.91)
ANA: LW Andreas Johnsson (1 x 3.4), NJD2 (2023), SEA3 (2023)
Johnsson would just go the other way for cap purposes. He's actually making the league minimum in salary, so he'd cost as much as any AHL callup. Anaheim could let him go after the season. Johnsson would probably appreciate some NHL ice time to audition for his next contract.
2nd+3rd was a recurring joke among Devils fans since Ray Shero did a handful of those deals (Marcus Johansson, Nikita Gusev). Henrique could slide up and down the lineup at LW/C as needed, but hopefully provide more goal scoring than Haula has thus far. Haula got a lot of time on Hughes' line if only to help out in the faceoff dot. Henrique could fit that role too.
New Jersey would still have some cap room for another trade *looks vaguely in San Jose's direction*
Ballpark lines:
Seattle
Burakovsky-Beniers-Eberle
Schwartz-Wennberg-McCann
Tolvanen-Gourde-Bjorkstrand
Tanev-Haula-Sprong
Donato-Geekie
New Jersey
Henrique-Hughes-Bratt
Palat-Hischier-Tatar
Sharangovich-Boqvist-Mercer
Wood-McLeod-Bastian
Zetterlund
Anaheim
Vatrano-McTavish-Terry
Comtois-Zegras-Strome
Johnsson-Lundestrom-Silfverberg
Jones-(Carrick/Megna)-Leason
If the Ducks are going to move Henrique, it would make sense to look at (short term) cap dumps to increase the value coming back. Especially if the guy coming back is serviceable and fills a hole until a young guy can take over. Ducks aren't going to be close to the cap next year, so even if it's a guy that's UFA after next year they can afford to sit him and let a kid play IF one earns a spot.
HugeInTheShire
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I'd take Rico back on NJ but I wouldn't even consider a 1st for him
If the Ducks can get a 1st or 2nd + good prospect then they should. If they can’t get that then they are better off keeping him until next deadline. No point in retaining nearly 3 mil, getting worse, and possibly taking back more salary for a late second.
All Mighty
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Henrique at $2.9M for 1.5 years is easily worth a 1st. Anything less and it's not worth trading him.
EDIT: Thinking about it more, Henrique at $4M for 1.5 years is probably worth around a late 1st. At $2.9M I would ask for a 1st+.
EDIT: Thinking about it more, Henrique at $4M for 1.5 years is probably worth around a late 1st. At $2.9M I would ask for a 1st+.
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FiveHoleo
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I would give the Leaf's first for Henrique at 50 percent any day of the week. He's a clutch playoff performer but nobody knows it because he's on lame ass teams all the time. Back in junior he was a playoff monster, and in Jersey he was Mr. Clutch when they made the playoffs. He is exactly what the leafs need, he can play center in a pinch, penalty kill, and play anywhere in the lineup where it's required. He would give the Leafs what they would expect to get out of Oreilly, but at a fraction of the cost. This would be a pipe dream, Dubas will likely drop a fat wad of assets on some pud at the deadline who'll miss half the games, suck in the games he gets into and sign somewhere else next year.
SteveCangialosi123
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If we can’t find a 1st(tho I imagine teams like avs, leafs might consider) I don’t hate this deal
Zippy316
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Makes a ton of sense for the Devils to get involved.
Johnsson would likely have to go back to make the cap work. 3.4 million cap hit but only 800k salary after his summer bonus. Don’t see that being too much of an issue. That or Bernier’s contract, but I gave up on trying to understand LTIR a while ago, so not sure if that’ll help.
Prospect wise, Nolan Foote, Graeme Clarke, and Reilly Walsh would be the most expendable. I can’t see them willing to dip into the tier above that for Henrique. Maybe the Devils would be willing to deal Zetterlund or make a decision on Bahl/Okhoituk and deal the other.
I really don’t think the Devils want to be dealing their first this year, but I think it’s possible they would do a conditional 1st dependent on the Devils making the conference finals especially if they can get Henrique retained to a reasonable AAV for next year.
Johnsson would likely have to go back to make the cap work. 3.4 million cap hit but only 800k salary after his summer bonus. Don’t see that being too much of an issue. That or Bernier’s contract, but I gave up on trying to understand LTIR a while ago, so not sure if that’ll help.
Prospect wise, Nolan Foote, Graeme Clarke, and Reilly Walsh would be the most expendable. I can’t see them willing to dip into the tier above that for Henrique. Maybe the Devils would be willing to deal Zetterlund or make a decision on Bahl/Okhoituk and deal the other.
I really don’t think the Devils want to be dealing their first this year, but I think it’s possible they would do a conditional 1st dependent on the Devils making the conference finals especially if they can get Henrique retained to a reasonable AAV for next year.
Djp
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On what planet? Who even has $3M in cap space. To get a 1st back you’d need to take back a bad contract back.
All Mighty
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All Mighty
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My perspective is that feels like a package that we could get at next year's trade deadline, so it doesn't give us much incentive to pull the trigger now. Johnsson pretty much cancels out the value of one of the other assets, so it's essentially just a 2nd or Boqvist for Henrique with retention. I wouldn't mind taking that deal in a year, but it doesn't do enough for me to accept it now.
KaseMeOutside
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HF is repeatedly wrong about player values, and here we are yet again with people certain a player won't bring back ___
ZachaFlockaFlame
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If NJ can add Henrique and then add Meier in the summer somehow, that's the best forward core they've had in 2 decades. My lord.
I guess you took a wrong turn and found yourself in the TRADE FORUM.
