the hockey games?
You mean the ones where the Clendening/Stanton pairing was hemmed in its own zone even more than the current Sbisa/Bieksa pairing? Those ones?
Becoming a little concerned that the Hawks might have been right about Clendening....decent AHL d-man, but lacking size or elite-level skating to do much in the NHL......will be interesting to monitor Forsling....hope this isn't one deal that bites us in the butt.
You mean the ones where the Clendening/Stanton pairing was hemmed in its own zone even more than the current Sbisa/Bieksa pairing? Those ones?
Ugh, what? I'm not sure we're watching the same games. Stanton and Clendenning were incredible together, your eyes are lying to you.
Sbieksa 57.46 corsi against per 60
Standening 56.36 CA/60
Not a huge difference given the sample size
Sbieksa 57.46 corsi against per 60
Standening 56.36 CA/60
Not a huge difference given the sample size
Sbieksa 57.46 corsi against per 60
Standening 56.36 CA/60
Not a huge difference given the sample size
Sbieksa 4.000+2.900m against per 82 games
Standening 0.550+ 0.818m against per 82 games
Found the difference
i wonder who was responsible for scouting him?
"Decent AHL d-man"
The guy made the rookie AHL all-star team his rookie year and the first AHL all-star team the next year. He is definitely a good prospect.
Clendening can pass the puck. You can see that that is something that can help him make the NHL.
Lots of guys put up points and make AHL all-star teams as d-men, but never transition to the NHL. T.J. Brennan, Stefan Elliot, Kyle Cumiskey....heck even Bobby Sanguinetti who has 15 goals and can can't get a sniff from the 'Nucks when half their d-corp was injured....Clendening's skating and battle-level in his own zone have to get way better, and keep in mind that next year the 'Nucks can't send him down without exposing him to waivers....with the way Vey is playing in VanCity these days, becoming less and less of a fan of trading future draft picks for guys who top-out as AHL all-stars.
Lots of guys put up points and make AHL all-star teams as d-men, but never transition to the NHL. T.J. Brennan, Stefan Elliot, Kyle Cumiskey....heck even Bobby Sanguinetti who has 15 goals and can can't get a sniff from the 'Nucks when half their d-corp was injured....Clendening's skating and battle-level in his own zone have to get way better, and keep in mind that next year the 'Nucks can't send him down without exposing him to waivers....with the way Vey is playing in VanCity these days, becoming less and less of a fan of trading future draft picks for guys who top-out as AHL all-stars.
T.J. Brennan 1st&2nd seasons in the AHL
1st:6g 17a 23pts
2nd:15g 24a 39pts
Stefan Elliot 1st&2nd seasons in the AHL
1st:4g 9a 13pts
2nd:5g 9a 14pts
Kyle Cumiskey 1st&2nd seasons in the AHL
1st:6g 25a 33pts
2nd:made the NHL.
bobby Sanguinetti 1st&2nd seasons in the AHL
1st:6g 36a 42pts
2nd:9g 29a 38pts
Now compare that to Adam Clendening
1st:9g 37a 46pts (rookie all-star team)
2nd:12g 47a 59pts (1st all-star team)
In Clendening's second season in the AHL he was considered one of the best defenseman in that league at the age of 21....
Clendening is a good prospect. Defenseman prospects just take a while.
But did he play for Medicine Hat?Clendening is a horrible skater, poor defensively and weak along the boards/ infront of the net. You can see these are some of the things that can help keep him out of the NHL.
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Looked up Clendening's draft profile from the '011 draft....concerns expressed were about his skating, size and physicality...was considered a draft day 'faller'....fast forward to '015....still concerns about skating, size and physicality....players are like leopards...only a few change their spots dramatically after their draft year...and even fewer de-men.
I understand the concerns. But, I mean come on. If we drafted Clendening and he made the rookie ahl-allstar and 1st team All-star the next year we wouldn't be having this discussion.
As for the concerns. I understand if his skating/defensivezone/physicality is not that great. But, he makes up for that with his elite level offense. All he needs to do is tighten up his defense and then he'll be fine.
Even if he busts it's fine we gave up a minor asset for him. Forsling had the exact same issues as Clendening only worse.
Agree with your analysis...at this point there's no harm, no foul....but if Clendening ends up on the Canucks next year because he's waiver eligible and the 'Nucks don't want to lose him, then you're got the equivalent of Linden Vey on the blueline.....as for Forsling......who knows?....but the Hawks clearly thought he was a better bet for the NHL than the guy they traded.