Adam Clendening

[TheWanderer]

I'd be happiest if we didn't have Garrison AND didn't have Sbisa.

Garrison was slow in his own zone and had no transition abilities, and he was soft.

Sbisa just plain sucks.

I would be much happier if we had a d-man who was actually worth this dollar amount, or anything in between.

And I would be happiest if we also didn't have Bieksa, Dorsett, or Miller on this team.

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Baerts - Bonino - Vrbata
Kenins - Horvat - Hansen
Virtanen - (Richardson) - Burrows
Vey

Edler - Tanev
Hamhuis - UFA
Stanton - Corrado/Clendening

Lack
Markstrom

and a bunch of money to put in better places than where we currently have it.


This is what I want. I don't even care about the returns we get for Higgins, Bieksa, Miller, Sbisa, Dorsett... picks. Futures. Don't care.

 

[TheWanderer]

Again, 'changes needed to be made' isn't some sort of carte blanche to make terrible changes.

We needed to get more skilled and improve our transition game. Benning dumped one of our more skilled guys and brought in one of the worst puck moving defenders in the league. It was the worst possible change. And he's barely even saved any money on it.



I'm sorry, but Sbisa is not 'skilled for his role'. Or even close. He's the defence version of Ben Eager - big and skates good but absolutely horrible at every hockey-related skill and dumb as a brick.

Ugh... I think I'd take Ben Eager.

 

[canucksfan]

Ugh... I think I'd take Ben Eager.

I guess someone has to carry the player's equipment

 

[racerjoe]

You could spin it a lot of different ways I bet.

More literally Miller was signed the with the old goalies $5.3m cap that the Luongo trade + Markstrom being waived created.

They traded $5m Kesler for $1.9m Bonino and $2.9m Sbisa, or $4.8m. In that deal they got a direct positional replacement for Kesler, plus a free top 6 dman.

After that they they traded Garrison (replaced by Sbisa), and put that money towards Vrbata, Dorsett, and Vey.

Except Miller costs more than Luongo even without the Salary we retained. Markstrom shouldn't count as either way there is just two goalies on the roster. Also Sbisa is not a top 6 dman, and we already had a cheaper in house version, hell we had two plus Corrado. For this season the Salary diference is 4.6 vs 2.6, a difference of 2 mill to go from a top 3 guy to a top 7 guy. Whats funny is that 2 mill was most likely allocated to Miller.

 

[Verviticus]

What a ridiculous statement

You do realize most defenseman don't come into their own until their late twenties.

this isnt true

 

[Verviticus]

Again, 'changes needed to be made' isn't some sort of carte blanche to make terrible changes.

We needed to get more skilled and improve our transition game. Benning dumped one of our more skilled guys and brought in one of the worst puck moving defenders in the league. It was the worst possible change. And he's barely even saved any money on it.



I'm sorry, but Sbisa is not 'skilled for his role'. Or even close. He's the defence version of Ben Eager - big and skates good but absolutely horrible at every hockey-related skill and dumb as a brick.

ben eager at least hits and fights and takes himself off the ice. sbisa gives people gentle touches

 

[Tinhorn1]

ben eager at least hits and fights and takes himself off the ice. sbisa gives people gentle touches

I don't like Sbisa the player most of the time, but I do think he delivers good hits. He's about the only Canucks D-man who ever crushes incoming forwards at the blueline, except Edler once in a while when the spirit moves him (or his back isn't acting up).

Edit: Sorry, didn't realize this was the Clendening thread. Maybe Clendening will add this element to his game. Just kidding.

 

[WTG]

I don't like Sbisa the player most of the time, but I do think he delivers good hits. He's about the only Canucks D-man who ever crushes incoming forwards at the blueline, except Edler once in a while when the spirit moves him (or his back isn't acting up).

Sbisa delivers some good hits.

But sometimes he puts himself way out of position wanting to go for the hit. Like he did in Game 6 where he pinched and it created the first goal against when we were up 3-0.

Sbisa is also really really bad at clearing the crease. You'd think for a guy who get's called a tough blue line guy he'd put a beating on guys in front of the net. Instead he is soft as butter in front of the net. All he does is stand next to them and double screens the goaltender.



Honestly, I don't care that much about the bone crushing open ice hits as much as I do a defender that clears out the crease. I feel clearing out the crease is much more important then putting yourself out of position just to knock the wind out of someone.

 

[vanuck]

ben eager at least hits and fights and takes himself off the ice. sbisa gives people gentle touches

I'm pretty sure Eager didn't cost 3.6 mil either.