Speculation: Acq./Rost. Bldg./Cap/Lines etc. Part LXXXIV -- The Doggiest Days (Woof!) 2017

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I mentioned it previously, but I'm more concerned with Djoos' explosiveness than his strength. I'm a believer that undersized defensemen can succeed in the NHL (and people have cited numerous examples), but in order to do so you need to be able to beat players to pucks and have the hockey IQ to navigate out of difficult situations. I'm not sure if Djoos is that explosive skater to achieve that. Maybe his anticipation can overcome some of that, but he needs to be able to beat opposition to pucks and out maneuver them at the blue lines. Even if he packs on some weight, he's never going to be big enough that it's going to be an impressive portion of his game.

Plus I think Troy Mann said something to the effect of "he can train all he wants, but at some point you have to admit the weight just isn't going to stick." He's been around professional training staffs, including the Capitals organization, for several years now. Some people just aren't that big.

He just needs to spend a season playing baseball. :sarcasm:
 

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Plus I think Troy Mann said something to the effect of "he can train all he wants, but at some point you have to admit the weight just isn't going to stick." He's been around professional training staffs, including the Capitals organization, for several years now. Some people just aren't that big.
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capsisles-skate-shavings-back-to-work/c-286291788
"The biggest thing with Christian is an exceptional IQ, poise and all that," says Trotz. "The only areas that he was maybe a little deficient in is that he is not a big guy. So strength and the ability to not wear down over a long season were things that we asked him to continue do. And that's more about workout and nutrition, and all those things. He fractured his jaw, so he's had to deal with a lot of stuff in keeping his strength and weight up, and he's been exceptional down there. He's been probably one of their most consistent guys; him and [Aaron] Ness and [Tyler] Lewington. Those three guys, their names come up all the time when it comes to the [defense] corps down there."
I don't buy that he simply can't gain mass. He has one job and that's part of it. I can buy his metabolism being a factor in him being lean and it being difficult for him to put on sheer mass but nutrition and training should still be able to beat it. There have been reports like Johansen force-feeding himself every two hours so there are a lot of ways to go about it but training is a huge part of it. It's very unrealistic to expect him to suddenly pack on ten good pounds after maybe only putting on three lbs in four years since being drafted. Being with the Caps staff full-time can't hurt and they do have some tailored nutrition for each player based on blood tests IINM, catered meals and simply not having to deal with the rest of the drawbacks of AHL life. In time they ought to help the player if the player wants to improve. It's hard to believe a 18-22 year old pro athlete can't pack on any mass at all regardless of how disciplined he's working at it.

Training gets taken to another level when with the big team full-time but a lot of the groundwork has happen individually. It's the lifestyle. To only start taking it seriously when reaching the league takes a special talent. We'll see whether his strengths outweigh his limitations but I can't imagine him getting rag-dolled in front of his net regularly and remaining in the lineup. He can compensate for it with leverage and body positioning but adapting vs. NHLers is likely to take an adjustment period.

Explosiveness is another area where it's kind of difficult to bolster without some serious strength training. They should ship him up to Gary Roberts for the summer or something. Try something different. Whatever he's been doing obviously isn't getting results and I doubt it's impossible. It might be hell but he could basically just train and hibernate/recover for two months.
 
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Something to chew on while thinking about the roster.

Heading into next season, Capitals have eight players signed to $5M+ deals. There are only 135 players in the whole league who make $5M+. St. Louis and Chicago are the two teams at currently seven, but one of Chicago's (Hossa) will be on LTIR. St. Louis will likely join Washington at eight once Parayko signs.


The Capitals have three defensemen signed to $5M+ deals, and John Carlson set to join them next year. Currently that's the most of any team, but St. Louis may join them after Parayko's new deal.
 

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What's the deal w/ Connor Hobbs? Had a huge year last season in juniors, and if I'm not mistaken, he had a good camp with the Caps recently. I'm assuming he's going to end up in Hershey this year, but I wonder if there will be a chance for him to play some for the big club this up coming season? Big shot, physicality, etc....
 

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This is potential playoff theme. ****ing brilliant.
 

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Something to chew on while thinking about the roster.

Heading into next season, Capitals have eight players signed to $5M+ deals. There are only 135 players in the whole league who make $5M+. St. Louis and Chicago are the two teams at currently seven, but one of Chicago's (Hossa) will be on LTIR. St. Louis will likely join Washington at eight once Parayko signs.


The Capitals have three defensemen signed to $5M+ deals, and John Carlson set to join them next year. Currently that's the most of any team, but St. Louis may join them after Parayko's new deal.

Yeah. Life of a top talent team. Plus no real farm system due to the trading kids and picks for win now players. You have to win it all once or twice or it's a crappy overall ride.

Orpik is will prob come off as Carlson goes on the 5m club. Least, here's to hoping.
 
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Crappy overall ride lol

Borgata has Djoos listed at 171.5 to start the season. I am going to play a whim and take the way over. When he was listed at 160 you know he was probably below that. He is at 164 now.

But its not just weight, it's build. A guy 5'6 165 can be a bowling ball. Djoos is closer to a twig.

Anyone know of a proven NHL Dman 6'0" 165 pounds? I will take forwards if you are struggling.
 

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What's the deal w/ Connor Hobbs? Had a huge year last season in juniors, and if I'm not mistaken, he had a good camp with the Caps recently. I'm assuming he's going to end up in Hershey this year, but I wonder if there will be a chance for him to play some for the big club this up coming season? Big shot, physicality, etc....

I'm sure they will take the conservative approach and off to Hershey he goes but from all reports this is the guy flying up the ranks with a bullet

There might be many others making good progress and having had lengthy seasoning, but with a huge camp is it not possible he jumps the lot of them ?
 

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Crappy overall ride lol

Borgata has Djoos listed at 171.5 to start the season. I am going to play a whim and take the way over. When he was listed at 160 you know he was probably below that. He is at 164 now.

But its not just weight, it's build. A guy 5'6 165 can be a bowling ball. Djoos is closer to a twig.

Anyone know of a proven NHL Dman 6'0" 165 pounds? I will take forwards if you are struggling.
Mitchy boy.

Edit: Impartial, just answering the question haha.
 

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Another thing to ponder - Vrana's ELC ends this season. If he does as well as people are hoping, how will we find a way to pay for his bridge contract as well as Carlson, without having Stephenson and Boyd as 3C and 4C?
 

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Another thing to ponder - Vrana's ELC ends this season. If he does as well as people are hoping, how will we find a way to pay for his bridge contract as well as Carlson, without having Stephenson and Boyd as 3C and 4C?
Well if he does well enough to merit a decent bridge could contract (which he hasn't to this point), then it's a good problem to have (meaning he has ramped up his game and replaces the production lost in Mojo or Williams).

Otherwise he just gets a 1 year deal and try it again next season.
 

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I think Carlson is gone, too. Eventually.

He'll be an interesting case to show the direction the franchise wants to take. At some point, they're gonna have to start trading out these guys they've got signed and potentially really like. After this year, the teams essentially done with any cap play and they've locked in their top 6 and potentially top 4 for a long time.

If they keep showing they can't get it done...what are they gonna do?
 

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I think Carlson is gone, too. Eventually.

I certainly think that's possible. Were it up to me, I'd trade him for a F and move out OV for a package of young talent and picks. I really like some of the young D/G in the org but we are short of Fs, and that gets out almost all of the long term core (minus Nick and Braden). Oh, and Barry would have been fired 5 minutes after game 7.
 

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Another thing to ponder - Vrana's ELC ends this season. If he does as well as people are hoping, how will we find a way to pay for his bridge contract as well as Carlson, without having Stephenson and Boyd as 3C and 4C?
He has two years remaining thanks to it sliding. Still, I don't know how they're going to manage keeping Carlson and their valued center depth. If neither C step it up in the playoffs--assuming they make it--then that decision will be made for them. At least that's how they should approach it.

Another part of the approach should be, in addition to Vrana contributing at strong value, trying to get strong contributions from other younger players that will be cheap the following season. That includes all of the currently cheap younger players with the possible exception of DSP and Graovac due to arbitration rights next summer but even they could be retained on the cheap if timed right. They're very likely stopgaps at best, though, so they should opt for youth and upside whenever possible.

The issue with Vrana then is two years from now when Burakovsky may be due a nice raise, although thankfully by then Orpik will be off the books. Next year the Caps already have $56.74M locked in to ten players so it will remain tight, particularly if Carlson is locked up. By that point Orpik pretty much has to be gone and they'll have to similarly piece together their depth again. But it's still probably better to be in cap hell than to let Carlson walk. You never know but they really shouldn't get caught unaware again and wind up in a situation where they have to make panic dumps. No more panic dumps. Any amateur can make panic dumps.
 

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Keep in mind that much of the hand wringing going on here regarding what the Caps may or may not do next season and thereafter is based on the current cap. We don't know what the cap might be as we move forward. With the large contracts of McDavid and Price taking effect next season, I have to think the NHL will do everything to help these two Canadian teams and their organization. Now if it was the Capitals that had entered in to such a contract with a player, I highly doubt that the league would be as interested in helping the Washington organization.
 

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Keep in mind that much of the hand wringing going on here regarding what the Caps may or may not do next season and thereafter is based on the current cap. We don't know what the cap might be as we move forward. With the large contracts of McDavid and Price taking effect next season, I have to think the NHL will do everything to help these two Canadian teams and their organization. Now if it was the Capitals that had entered in to such a contract with a player, I highly doubt that the league would be as interested in helping the Washington organization.

The league doesn't get to arbitrarily chose the salary cap. It's based on revenue generated and whether or not the player's union elects to use the escalator. The mid-point between the salary floor and salary cap is fixed to 50% of HRR ("hockey related revenue") for the league as a whole. HRR has indeed been increasing slowly, but the Cap has largely gone up because the players continue to elect to use the salary cap escalator. However, 2017 was the first year where they didn't use the full 5% of the escalator, because of growing tensions of escrow. There is no guarantee that the players will elect to use the escalator in 2018.
 
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