Player Discussion Aatu Raty

Shareefruck

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If Raty does make the team and Blueger is ready for opening night we have some interesting options.

I would have assumed Blueger would slide back in on Garland's line but maybe you keep Hoglander-Raty-Garland together with the chemistry they've shown. Then you could run Suter-Blueger-Sherwood as more of a matchup line.
Considering that they haven't found a fit with Pettersson - DeBrusk yet, my guess would be that they'll just use Suter/Heinen the same way.

Suter - Miller - Boeser
Heinen - Pettersson - DeBrusk
Joshua - Raty - Garland (Hoglander - Raty - Garland for opening night)
Hoglander - Blueger - Sherwood (Sprong/DiGiuseppe - Blueger - Sherwood for opening night)

I think it's fine to start the season with Raty considering that Sprong hasn't really shown that he's a capable everyday guy yet.
 

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I think it's fine to start the season with Raty considering that Sprong hasn't really shown that he's a capable everyday guy yet.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Sprong has been an "everyday" player with a few healthy scratches here and there. He played 76 games last season and 66 the year before. It really comes down to how you want your team to play and what you want out of him. If you want an energy type grinder who is hard to play against in all 3 zones that's not him. If you want a top 6 player who can play a 200 foot game that's not him. He's not a long term top 6 fit because he doesn't score enough to outproduce his defensive deficieinces. If you want someone to produce offensively 5 v 5 playing on the 4th line (given his defensive struggles) that's him.

I do think Sprong is what he is. He's there to produce offensively on the 4th line. When he isn't producing his coach is going to want to scratch him.

Otherwise, ya I'm fine with starting Raty too. He has certainly earned the right to be considered for a spot.
 
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I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Sprong has been an "everyday" player with a few healthy scratches here and there. He played 76 games last season and 66 the year before. It really comes down to how you want your team to play and what you want out of him. If you want an energy type grinder who is hard to play against in all 3 zones that's not him. If you want a top 6 player who can play a 200 foot game that's not him. He's not a long term top 6 fit because he doesn't score enough to outproduce his defensive deficieinces. If you want someone to produce offensively 5 v 5 playing on the 4th line (given his defensive struggles) that's him.

I do think Sprong is what he is. He's there to produce offensively on the 4th line. When he isn't producing his coach is going to want to scratch him.

Otherwise, ya I'm fine with starting Raty too. He has certainly earned the right to be considered for a spot.
#1 how are you awake and posting at this time?

#2 thus far I don’t think Sprong has shown that he’s a gong show defensively. I think that is the most important thing (but it’s super early)

If they can get Sprong to the point where he’s not a liability in the d-zone (which is a huge task) then he should be a staple in the lineup.

I listened to a Tocchet interview recently where he interviewed Sprong before the signing and asked him why he thought his defensive play was so poor and whatever Sprong said, Tocchet seemed comfortable that it could be improved upon.

I think it was something like 7 coached in 7 seasons. Not getting enough time / coaching to learn the defensive systems and understand his assignments…

Anyways…more than anything from this pre-season as it pertains to Sprong, the most important thing for me is that his d-zone play has been adequate.
He has not shown himself to be a huge liability.
 

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I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Sprong has been an "everyday" player with a few healthy scratches here and there. He played 76 games last season and 66 the year before. It really comes down to how you want your team to play and what you want out of him. If you want an energy type grinder who is hard to play against in all 3 zones that's not him. If you want a top 6 player who can play a 200 foot game that's not him. He's not a long term top 6 fit because he doesn't score enough to outproduce his defensive deficieinces. If you want someone to produce offensively 5 v 5 playing on the 4th line (given his defensive struggles) that's him.

I do think Sprong is what he is. He's there to produce offensively on the 4th line. When he isn't producing his coach is going to want to scratch him.

Otherwise, ya I'm fine with starting Raty too. He has certainly earned the right to be considered for a spot.
All I mean is that he hasn't really played in a way during the preseason that I think would convince Tocchett that he should necessarily be in the line-up most nights, so there is room for Raty (which may have seemed less possible heading into preseason, considering how many solid forward depth acquisitions were made).
 

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All I mean is that he hasn't really played in a way during the preseason that I think would convince Tocchett that he should be in the line-up most nights, so there is room for Raty (which may have seemed less possible heading into preseason, considering how many solid depth acquisitions were made).
I like Raty and he may have forced his way onto the early season Canucks' roster (assuming DJ starts on IR), but he will not be ahead of Sprong IMO, who has been unremarkable defensively (in a good way) and dangerous in the offensive zone. If Sprong clicks with Pettersson and DeBrusk, he could score 30+ and it wouldn't be totally surprising.
 
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Not sure where Blueger is at but if he's not ready to start and even with the option of Suter as a LW and Tocchet wanting a bit more scoring ability and size in a match up game on his 3rd line certainly think Raty deserves the 3C to start with Garland
 
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PuckMunchkin

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Have not watched any of the preseason games.

Can anyone give me a mini scouting report? How is his skating now compared to last year?
 

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He's skating better, but it's still a weakness at the NHL level. He seems able to mostly make up for it with a good sense for positioning and a generally high hockey IQ.
If he makes the team, we won't have to wait long for edge data, and then we'll see exactly how good or bad his burst and top speed are. The beauty of objectivity. Subjectively, it hasn't appeared to be a significant limiting factor, but preseason is tough to gauge with weird QOC/QOT situations.
 
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If he makes the team, we won't have to wait long for edge data, and then we'll see exactly how good or bad his burst and top speed are. The beauty of objectivity. Subjectively, it hasn't appeared to be a significant limiting factor, but preseason is tough to gauge with weird QOC/QOT situations.
Edge data will only show that he’s at or below 50%z
 

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just curious but is there any official updated height weight stats on the guy. Most online resources have outdated information that has him at like 180, 190 lbs but he looks more like 200lbs
 

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It's hard to believe that Raty is still only 21. Seems like he's been around pro hockey forever. He's listed at 6'2 and 190, so size certainly isn't an issue.

Odds are he still returns to Abbotsford at some point. But there aren't a lot of 21-year olds can make the NHL, unless they're playing for one of the NHL's bottom-feeders.

For a kid like Raty to break down the door and make a team as stacked as the Canucks are right now--would be pretty impressive.
 

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I reeeeeeeeally wish his name was pronounced RATTY. That's my only regret with this player. I think I'm gonna just call him that anyway, even though I know hockey nerds will correct me, thinking I don't know any better.

Anyway, gonna be fun to have a couple of rookies to keep an eye out for this season. That always adds something, I find.
 

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I reeeeeeeeally wish his name was pronounced RATTY. That's my only regret with this player. I think I'm gonna just call him that anyway, even though I know hockey nerds will correct me, thinking I don't know any better.

Anyway, gonna be fun to have a couple of rookies to keep an eye out for this season. That always adds something, I find.

His nickname should be R2-Ra2 (like R2-D2)
 

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Aman faster but hopeless offensively. Raty has higher IQ, more creative and better at finding space.

Aman is faster but he kind of doesn’t use his max speed as much as Raty does. Raty plays a more assertive game.
 
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I reeeeeeeeally wish his name was pronounced RATTY. That's my only regret with this player. I think I'm gonna just call him that anyway, even though I know hockey nerds will correct me, thinking I don't know any better.
It's not that far off, actually. The people who say it "Raw-too" to rhyme with his first name are wrong. The ä is indeed like the English "a" in rat, and the Y is like a French U (not an English one) or German Ü. So more like Ratt-ew.
 

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It's not that far off, actually. The people who say it "Raw-too" to rhyme with his first name are wrong. The ä is indeed like the English "a" in rat, and the Y is like a French U (not an English one) or German Ü. So more like Ratt-ew.

I’m glad I’ve been pronouncing his name correct.
 
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