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Player Discussion Aatu Raty

Was able to find this years data.


Out of forwards with 10 or more games played his top speed puts him at 404th out of 488.
 
The reason everyone keeps going at you is because you've lacked specifics from day 1 about this and you have a history of just making shit up when it comes to Pettersson.

I'm sure your correct in that he probably should have identified and worked with better trainers than his dad bro etc but it's also evident that he's smart well thought and has made marked improvements. So despite your claims he's made good progress

He's gone from a player that was not close and was being written off for good reason when seeing his skating to better than 15-20% in top speed and improving

On the flip side are countless low IQ low skill players who bomb around the ice accomplishing little vs a high hockey IQ big body with front line skills. I know i've gone off topic here and wasn't relevant to what you were saying but the reason this persists is because you do.

Anyway this has been a great step for him. He's knocking down the door. I have some doubts about 82 games and maintaining the energy levels/luck to keep producing like he has but with another couple steps in training and confidence we could have a very important middle six C from within.
 
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I'm very happy with Raty's improvement this year. His skating can always improve but I think he's achieved a level that will work in the NHL. His other area for focused improvement is his anticipation in the defensive zone. He is playing against very smart NHL players and it seems his decision making is a tad behind sometimes. I have no doubt this will improve with good coaching and reps.

My expectation for next year is that he will migrate between the 3C/4C roles with Blueger being the other C in the bottom 6. He will be sheltered, at least at the beginning of the year, with Blueger taking responsibility for more of the defensive match-ups. That said, it seems that they are getting comfortable with Raty's faceoff abilities in the defensive zone. This is an area where he can be the go to guy right now.

His competition for the bottom 6 C position will be Aman and Sasson, unless they acquire another C. I see Aman as more of a tweener. Sasson, with his straight line speed, might be better suited on the wing.

Overall an excellent development year for Raty. If he keeps this trajectory he could be that elusive 3C who is good on the draws, sound defensively, with some offensive upside.
 
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In a salary cap world--it's almost impossible to compete without contributions from kids on ELC's.

Even if all Raty does is top out at a third or fourth line center--the Canucks need him. And more and more, it looks like he can actually move up the lineup.

I guess if you could quibble about anything, it's his skating, particularly when he's carrying the puck. But guys like Boeser and Suter aren't speed-burners either, and they've found a way to be very effective.

And Raty is still only 22. The Canucks have to be pleased with his development.
 
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beachcomber said:
It's funny how guys here who have probably never been on a pair of skates are the ones saying he needs a skating coach. He puts in a ton of time on his skating skills.
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Exactly and what you see is probably what you are going to get.

He just doesn't have the wheels to be a top 6 center but I hope I'm wrong and he is the exception to the rule.
 
His skating is just night and day improved from where it was in Abbotsford in 23-24. He's looking a lot more 'Bonino-ish' as a guy who will obviously always be a below-average skater but gets around the ice just fine and gets to the right places in time (relative to NHL players) as opposed to a guy who was just painfully not getting to pucks and plays he should obviously have been getting to (relative to AHL players).

He's an NHL player. He'll be an NHL player next year. He'll obviously continue working on his skating but it's to the point where it isn't going to break him from being an NHLer.
 
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He's going to be an excellent 4C that is excellent on faceoffs, defensively responsible, and score goals in front of the net.

Canucks need to find that elusive top 6 Center and then roll with

Pettersson
X
Chytil
Raty
 
He profiles because of his skating as a btm 6 player but i wouldn't just say he's gonna be a 4C.

Raty has high skill high IQ he has more upside than just 4C if he finds consistency and improves his defensive awareness.

Something to think about is he's already faster than Suter and McTavish 2 players that have been in discussions here about upside and filling a top6 role going forward
 
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sting101 said:
He profiles because of his skating as a btm 6 player but i wouldn't just say he's gonna be a 4C.

Raty has high skill high IQ he has more upside than just 4C if he finds consistency and improves his defensive awareness.

Something to think about is he's already faster than Suter and McTavish 2 players that have been in discussions here about upside and filling a top6 role going forward
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Agreed. Further, canuck fans of all people should know how a slow center can improve skating at this age.
 
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At 18 years old, prospect watchers and the media were voicing serious concerns about the skating prowess of both Daniel and Henrik Sedin.

In fact when they broke into the NHL a year later at 19 years old--nobody was 'wowed' by their skating or their battle-level along the wall. Hence their derisive nickname, 'the Sisters'. But by their mid-20's they'd become dominant players.

I see a lot of the same improvement metrics for Raty. He broke into the Finnish Lige as a 17-year old and struggled playing against pro hockey players. But prior to that, he'd been in the conversation to become the first overall draft pick.

I think his skating has gotten better every season.....and with another off-season of work, I suspect it'll be even better by September.

There's no doubt he'll be a regular next season in Vancouver. And at 22, it would be foolish to think that he's anywhere near his ceiling as an NHL player.
 
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I really hope they pencil him in as the 3C next year. To me, if Raty can further improve on his skating, he’s got top 6 C potential.
 
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sting101 said:
He profiles because of his skating as a btm 6 player but i wouldn't just say he's gonna be a 4C.

Raty has high skill high IQ he has more upside than just 4C if he finds consistency and improves his defensive awareness.

Something to think about is he's already faster than Suter and McTavish 2 players that have been in discussions here about upside and filling a top6 role going forward
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McTavish is that slow?!
 
arttk said:
Don’t pencil guys in role they haven’t earned.
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I understand the thought, but this guy has done everything asked of him in the AHL with patience, hard work, and commitment. He has improved in every way, and has now taken advantage of his opportunity in the NHL. Not sure what more he needs to do to "earn" a chance. Obviously, Bleuger is going to take some of the hard minuted in the bottom 6, leaving some good minutes for him with the right line mates. Treating him as a 4th line energy guy after the work and successful develop he has put in would be underselling him, IMO.

He has to go and have a great summer, but he has shown the necessary attitude and commitment to have earned a chance in my opinion.

Maybe he has a Garland on his wing, which might be a good compliment?
Or should Chytl be a winger with him to add some skill and speed on his line if he is still playing hockey next year?

Maybe 2 bottom 6 lines like O'Conner/Bleuger/Sherwood And Joshua/Raty/Garland ? Looks pretty good to me?
 
bobbyb2009 said:
I understand the thought, but this guy has done everything asked of him in the AHL with patience, hard work, and commitment. He has improved in every way, and has now taken advantage of his opportunity in the NHL. Not sure what more he needs to do to "earn" a chance. Obviously, Bleuger is going to take some of the hard minuted in the bottom 6, leaving some good minutes for him with the right line mates. Treating him as a 4th line energy guy after the work and successful develop he has put in would be underselling him, IMO.
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Don't f*** up at camp. I do wonder if they plan on just letting both Sasson and Raty battle it out.
 
arttk said:
Don't f*** up at camp. I do wonder if they plan on just letting both Sasson and Raty battle it out.
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Agreed. I think it is his to lose, and of course Sasson should be given a chance to be in the mix, but unless they trade Raty or he, as you say, f***s it up in camp, he is in the team next year in some capacity.
 
bobbyb2009 said:
Agreed. I think it is his to lose, and of course Sasson should be given a chance to be in the mix, but unless they trade Raty or he, as you say, f***s it up in camp, he is in the team next year in some capacity.
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Also why it’s a good reason to extend Suter. If Raty does well and earns a spot then you move Suter up the lineup as a 3rd wheel on the 2nd or 1st lines. If Raty and Sasson fails, bump Bluegar down and have Suter as the 3rd line C.
 
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