Series Talk: [A1] Toronto Maple Leafs vs [WC1] Ottawa Senators | Part II (TOR lead 3-2)

[Strangle]

You have a point. The team looks slow and scared. Not sure what the issue is.

I read a few people saying there was a bug going through the room.

Doesn’t matter if that’s true or not, at the end of the day.

The leafs ran out of excuses after the Montreal series. 9 seasons of excuses just turns into the boy who cried wolf.

Leafs need to put up or shut up, that’s where the story begins and ends

 

[Suntouchable13]

AS a Leafs fan, I am scared. Let's say they lose this series, there is still a great chance they just run it back again. That terrifies me because I might have to ditch this team after 25 years. I can't keep watching the same thing over and over again. It would break my heart, but what can I do?

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

So far the team that wins the faceoffs battle + special teams battle, has won pretty much every game

Last game

Matthews loses defensive zone draw, seconds later goal
Matthews turns it over on the PP, SHG

That's the game

Game 4

Leafs allow a PPG + a SHG
Leafs fail to score on a 4 minute PP in OT


Do a better job on the faceoffs and start f***ing competing on the special teams again, way too complacent

Leafs PP was so huge in Games 1-3, but the decision to go 5 forwards and play them for the first 1:30 of every PP needs to be questioned at this point. Sens definitely took advantage yesterday with an odd-man rush, against a forward with all the support gassed.

 

[sampollock]

Yup. You can tell how much happier they are when Toronto wins. They don't even try to hide it either.

it is sad
TSN and SN show it when they all get on the desk and cry and rejoice if the figs win

 

[Akrapovince]

Most leaf fans didn’t expect a sweep. Most leaf fans expected a 6 game series

If the Leafs win, beating a team in the first round like Ottawa in 6/7 is more beneficial for their run long term than sweeping them in my opinion.

 

[Arthuros]

Surely they can't mess this up again. Right?

Surely they wouldn't be just the 5th team in NHL history to get reverse swept. Right?

SURELY they wouldn't run this back next year. RIGHT!?

I'm all for having a laugh, but we've ascended into cosmic-levels of tragedy.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

If you say it enough, maybe...

Winning 3 games in a row is tough on any team let alone a team with zero playoff experience vs the leafs who have made it 9 years in a row. Valiant effort in game 5 but game 6 is the leafs

 

[sampollock]

TSN TO radio is bawling

love it
picking on nostrils but tomorrow it will be he is the one to break Ovi's record
what a crock

 

[MoneyManny]

No. He said only 4 of 211 teams down 3-0 have come back to win. That's 2% of teams, not a 2% chance of winning. There's a difference. If you don't see it then take another math class my man.

A single game's results are independent of the series, but a series is the aggregate of these games. The probability that Ottawa wins game 6 is different than the probability than Ottawa coming back down 3-0 to win the series.

Long story short for the both of you, it's statistically very unlikely for Ottawa to win this series. If I'm betting $1000 on who wins this series I'd still put it on the Leafs, even if they lose game 6.

You didn't need to type all that to say i was right. And yeah, Ottawa still has a relatively low chance of winning this series.

 

[sampollock]

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[SpezDispenser]

Winning 3 games in a row is tough on any team let alone a team with zero playoff experience vs the leafs who have made it 9 years in a row. Valiant effort in game 5 but game 6 is the leafs

We've heard that exact thing several times, except the Game # changed

 

[sampollock]

 

[MiscBrah]

So far the team that wins the faceoffs battle + special teams battle, has won pretty much every game

Last game

Matthews loses defensive zone draw, seconds later goal
Matthews turns it over on the PP, SHG

That's the game

Game 4

Leafs allow a PPG + a SHG
Leafs fail to score on a 4 minute PP in OT


Do a better job on the faceoffs and start f***ing competing on the special teams again, way too complacent

The faceoff battle has been an important one. Ottawa was absolutely dominated the first 3 games. Game 5 was the first time faceoffs had been close to 50/50. Playoff series are about adjustments, Ottawa adjusted to neutralize what Toronto was doing well - now Toronto needs to adjust to get around what Ottawa is doing, etc. etc.

 

[sampollock]

Brube says dont focus on the core 4

 

[Relapsing]

... So how's everyone feeling today?

 

[34]

I read a few people saying there was a bug going through the room.

Doesn’t matter if that’s true or not, at the end of the day.

The leafs ran out of excuses after the Montreal series. 9 seasons of excuses just turns into the boy who cried wolf.

Leafs need to put up or shut up, that’s where the story begins and ends

They are losing this series. Marner is as good as gone.

 

[nORRis8]

Very impressed the way Matthews broke his stick on the bench yesterday. What skill!!!

Nonetheless...why are people surprised at what's taking place? Too much TSN KoolAid?
It's their MO. It's what they do.

Matthews certainly stood out as he had such a glaringly horrible game people couldn't even blame Marner. Nylander a bit for ol'times sake.

And how can Stolarz who's around 8'11" make himself look so small. Is it Woll's turn? Maybe.

One things for sure...the CotU is about to explode.

 

[Tragedy]

Slowly but surely people watching this series are realizing who the Sens best player is. And it isn't Tkachuk, Stutzle or Ullmark.

Yeah, it's the hockey Gaud himself

 

[Strangle]

If the Leafs win, beating a team in the first round like Ottawa in 6/7 is more beneficial for their run long term than sweeping them in my opinion.

I can see where you’re coming from, and I agree in principle but losing a sweep is one failure, winning in 7 is 3 failures for a team who has done enough looking in the mirror and learning lessons by now.

The only character building that this team still has to experience is winning.

The questions are all around if they’re capable. Montreal series is evidence that they are not, this series is beginning to solidify that point of view.

Lots of hockey to play, but the demons are out and on full display now.

 

[Strangle]

They are losing this series. Marner is as good as gone.

With all due respect, man … you’ve been making wildly sweeping proclamations on both sides of “the sens are done” or “the leafs are done” after almost every lead in this series.

You’re not consistent or logical in your predictions, you’re just exaggerating due to the way the wind is blowing at the time

 

[nORRis8]

Brube says dont focus on the core 4

Nice deflection by Berube.
Ya, just ignore Matthews and Marners -4 and especially Matthews head in clouds effort.

 

[Golden_Jet]

... So how's everyone feeling today?

Wonder how Steve Dangle is doing.

 

[EdJovanovski]

It has to happen

 

[x Tame Impala]

You didn't need to type all that to say i was right. And yeah, Ottawa still has a relatively low chance of winning this series.

For sure, you could’ve just said “I don’t have a great understanding of probability” and left it there.

Leafs in 7

 

[swiftwin]

Slowly but surely people watching this series are realizing who the Sens best player is. And it isn't Tkachuk, Stutzle or Ullmark.

Yep. I called it before the series started.

Series Talk: Post in thread '[A1] Toronto Maple Leafs vs [WC1] Ottawa Senators (TOR Leads 1-0)'

Apr 19, 2025

I've been watching all the series previews, and I find it interesting that almost nobody is even talking about the Sens' best player. All they seem to want to talk about is Tkachuk.

• swiftwin

Literally nobody paid any attention to Ottawa. All the media wanted to talk about was Tkachuk, Stutzle and Ullmark.

Even today, people are like "oh, yeah, I guess Sanderson pretty good, but leafs leafs leafs, core 4, ullmark, tkachuk".

He's putting the team on his back right now. Shades of 2017 Karlsson. He leads any skater in time on ice in this series by a huge Margin.

TOI/GP
27:21 Sanderson
24:42 Chabot
23:32 Zub
22:58 Marner
22:28 McCabe