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The Blues were the only team that the Avs have faced that they didn't sweep. And fans of other Canadian teams act like their team would beat the Avs? What a laugher.
Post-Game Talk: A successful season?
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The Blues were the only team that the Avs have faced that they didn't sweep. And fans of other Canadian teams act like their team would beat the Avs? What a laugher.
Snipesaitl
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The fact that Holloway only played 3 minutes was pretty disappointing. What's the point of dressing the kid if you're not going to give him an opportunity to show what he's got?
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I'm not saying that he didn't do a good job this year. I was all-in on him being the coach going forward, but seeing these things just makes me a little less confident going forward.
In Nurse's case, I'm not saying bench him or to take him out of the lineup... but watching him extremely struggling in certain games, yet he's out there shift after shift against their top unit during these segments. When he's clearly hampered by his injuries, why is he still logging the most and the hardest minutes? Why not switch it up for awhile, and maybe spread those minutes and change the match-ups for him? At least until he resets, and hopefully gains a little confidence. I actually felt bad for him during some of those stretches, and it felt like the Patrick Roy in his last game for the Canadiens scenario (where the player's just being left to drown when it's clearly not going well for him).
Then in Smith's case, when he was pulled, Koskinen came in and played well and really solidified the situation that game, and the players seemed to respond after that. I still agreed on starting Smith after that game, but I, along with lot of other people figured that Smith was going to be on a short leash going forward. That obviously didn't happen. After going down 3-0 in the series, I think a lot of coaches would have seriously considered starting Koskinen to change it up, since there wasn't much to lose, but it didn't even seem like he even gave it a thought.
I know hindsight is 20/20, but I hope that it's a learning lesson, rather than a sign of things to come. For the record, I still hope he gets a chance to be the HC come next season.
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TypeSly
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Agreed. But, that's what a backup is there for... to back up the starting goaltender when he's struggling or just when things aren't going good. At 3-0 things are obviously not going good, so why not change things up, since there's not much to lose? Especially since he did play quite well when he was put into the game earlier in the series. Smith didn't have even one good game this series.
TypeSly
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You're still fully onboard the JP train? Let's face it. The guy sucks and has hands of stone. He has all the tools, but his fragile confidence has him constantly taking one step forward, and two steps back. Two full seasons of watching Connor constantly getting frustrated with him isn't enough for you?
I honestly am not that sold on keeping either. I'd move both if the right deals are there.
We need a difference maker on our back end.
Paralyzer008
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It feels like the Oilers, had it been a more successful offseason, would have won the cup this year based on McDavid/Draisaitl's play.
But alas, stinky D, stinky goalies
But alas, stinky D, stinky goalies
It hurts being swept…
However, being swept by the Jets in the first round <<<<<<<<<< being swept by a powerhouse Colorado in the Western finals.
Tough series but light years different than the past 2 years.
Can hold our heads high as to how our season has gone. The best was that we beat those damn fLames from down south - suck it fLames!!!
However, being swept by the Jets in the first round <<<<<<<<<< being swept by a powerhouse Colorado in the Western finals.
Tough series but light years different than the past 2 years.
Can hold our heads high as to how our season has gone. The best was that we beat those damn fLames from down south - suck it fLames!!!
LemmyUlanov55
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While getting swept isn't exactly fun, I'm not mad, just a bit annoyed.
Overall it was quite a solid season, Woody stepping behind the bench and kicking the Flames in the nuts was fun!
I wish you all a nice summer, might drop in for a few post here and there..
Overall it was quite a solid season, Woody stepping behind the bench and kicking the Flames in the nuts was fun!
I wish you all a nice summer, might drop in for a few post here and there..
I want to call it a successful season but we are that many years into McDrai and have nothing to show for it. It hurts and I'm not sure if the rest gets any better.
At least we used the Flames to mop the floor but that satisfaction only lasts so long.
Positives I'm looking forward to:
- a full season of Woody
- Skinner getting his chance
- Hopefully Nemo playing more games
- Holloway w/o injuries and making the big club
- one of Bourgault, Lavoie or Broberg popping off (unlikely but a man can dream)
Also f the NHL app for showing me the preview thumbnail of the handshake line when I set everything to not show me the results.
At least we used the Flames to mop the floor but that satisfaction only lasts so long.
Positives I'm looking forward to:
- a full season of Woody
- Skinner getting his chance
- Hopefully Nemo playing more games
- Holloway w/o injuries and making the big club
- one of Bourgault, Lavoie or Broberg popping off (unlikely but a man can dream)
Also f the NHL app for showing me the preview thumbnail of the handshake line when I set everything to not show me the results.
We all know that if it was the Oilers with that goal, that it would have been called back…
walktheboulavard
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You know if they're going to overtly celebrate our down fall at least have enough respect to tweet something creative. This shits corny.
harpoon
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Losing in four is like the reverse Stanley for Cyclone. He’ll be insufferable all summer.
harpoon
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I disagree. He’s just not that good. He was making saves on sure luck and desperation that should have been routine stops. He no longer knows how to play the position. Too deep. Too slow. Vulnerable short side. Vulnerable far side. Vulnerable high. Vulnerable five hole. Lunging at pucks. Belly flopping. Getting caught out of his net over and over. Waving his arms around like a tool when he f***s up. This team won two rounds in spite of Smith. Not because of him. I’m done with that clown. He can gtfo of town. The quicker the better.
I think you're right, some horrible fundamental flaws like being in wrong positions, having his stick off the ice in basic situations, making saves in a way nobody else would do, causing problems with extra risky plays etc.
DethOfDragnz
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This was a successful season we made it through 2 rounds all the way to the western finals. We might have made it all the way to the finals if Nurse and Draisaitl didn't get hurt. If they can keep Kane and keep most of this core together I think we have a excellent chance at winning the cup. This is a much better team then the 2006 team was. Proud of all my Oilers especially the guys that played injured. They are true warriors. Lets go Oilers!
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Fourier
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I was not suggesting a trade. Nurse never gets you close to Makar. The only Oiler that might tempt Colorado is McDavid. Just saying that he was such a difference maker that if you flipped the two it would have been a very different series.Think you only get a Makar by drafting or when they are past their prime. Our tanking was poorly timed. Actually not really, we got McDavid and DraiJust needed 1 more though!!
Fix the damn goaltending should be doable if we are still not determined to make Smith the starter.
Puljujarvi is a guy you regret trading in a hurry, imo.
I've said this many times before; Pulju is a guy with the tools required to beat anyone in the league, problem is he doesn't have any one Elite attribute.
But if he develops and succeeds in this league, he'll be a handful. This isn't a finished product, he's still very raw.
This is overstated, he does not have all the tools.
His puck skills (puck handling) and shot accuracy are lacking big time as is his skating balance.
I'll give you balance.
But I still think if you give up on Pulju too early you may really regret it.
That being said, idk, we have some tough decisions to make this offseason. See what happens I guess.
1. The Avs were simply better. They had an answer for everything. A few plays from MacKinnon made me not like him as much but the Oilers simply could not contain him and his line the way the Avs contained our 1st line.
2. It might have been a different story had we had a 100% Drai and 100% Nurse - everyone ragging on him did not realize obviously how deep his injury was - his last game was his best at least.
3. You look at the Avs (whom, if they play next series like they played against the Oilers, are the SC champs) and depth in, not serviceable, but high quality defense was one of their key strengths. They lost a top 3 D-man and it didn't even look like it. Nurse at 50% would not have played if he was on the Avs...their 3rd pairing d-men are 1st overall picks. The depth we have did not allow for this to happen. Everyone is dropping a load on Smith (including me...internally), but they made it through with a backup goalie and swept the Oilers. We need depth on D.
4. Please trade Jesse to gain that depth before he loses all value. Holland, if he has any clout left, can use it to figure out a trade for a youngish but very solid d-man. We have Broberg coming up, sure. We have Niemo, sure. But at a higher age, neither one is as dependable, athletically adaptable, or skilled as Byram. If we want to compete for the cup next year, we need a top four that can compete with a Makar, Teows, Byram, Girard. Nurse, Ceci, Keith and Bouchard...simply not even close. OK the Avs were blessed in some way, but in others, it was developed through trade. We need to do the same.
5. Goaltending did hurt us, there is no denying that. Smith cannot be #1 next year and Skinner has no experience so unless there is something done, we have the same goaltending issue as we had this year.
6. Aside from a few tweaks on the front end, though, this year was a huge step- "forward" for the forward group. You can see contributions from at least 8 out of the 12 forwards really made a difference this year to get us this far. They just have to keep pushing.
7. It is obvious that Edmonton is on its own. The refs are constantly against us (NM with 2 possibly suspend-able plays, and only 1 minor out of the whole thing), most likely Bettman is against us, even the rest of Canada is against us, as Twitter so elegantly has shown us...., the taxes, the weather, the market size...everything. The only thing we have is the players...and we have the right ones in place for long (enough) term. It is an amazing core - especially, and obviously, up front. we just need a few different pieces and we can put another ring on our middle fingers as we raise it in unison against the rest of them. Nobody likes us. but the fact that part of "us" includes Conner and Leon...we will get there...and the satisfaction once we do...
2. It might have been a different story had we had a 100% Drai and 100% Nurse - everyone ragging on him did not realize obviously how deep his injury was - his last game was his best at least.
3. You look at the Avs (whom, if they play next series like they played against the Oilers, are the SC champs) and depth in, not serviceable, but high quality defense was one of their key strengths. They lost a top 3 D-man and it didn't even look like it. Nurse at 50% would not have played if he was on the Avs...their 3rd pairing d-men are 1st overall picks. The depth we have did not allow for this to happen. Everyone is dropping a load on Smith (including me...internally), but they made it through with a backup goalie and swept the Oilers. We need depth on D.
4. Please trade Jesse to gain that depth before he loses all value. Holland, if he has any clout left, can use it to figure out a trade for a youngish but very solid d-man. We have Broberg coming up, sure. We have Niemo, sure. But at a higher age, neither one is as dependable, athletically adaptable, or skilled as Byram. If we want to compete for the cup next year, we need a top four that can compete with a Makar, Teows, Byram, Girard. Nurse, Ceci, Keith and Bouchard...simply not even close. OK the Avs were blessed in some way, but in others, it was developed through trade. We need to do the same.
5. Goaltending did hurt us, there is no denying that. Smith cannot be #1 next year and Skinner has no experience so unless there is something done, we have the same goaltending issue as we had this year.
6. Aside from a few tweaks on the front end, though, this year was a huge step- "forward" for the forward group. You can see contributions from at least 8 out of the 12 forwards really made a difference this year to get us this far. They just have to keep pushing.
7. It is obvious that Edmonton is on its own. The refs are constantly against us (NM with 2 possibly suspend-able plays, and only 1 minor out of the whole thing), most likely Bettman is against us, even the rest of Canada is against us, as Twitter so elegantly has shown us...., the taxes, the weather, the market size...everything. The only thing we have is the players...and we have the right ones in place for long (enough) term. It is an amazing core - especially, and obviously, up front. we just need a few different pieces and we can put another ring on our middle fingers as we raise it in unison against the rest of them. Nobody likes us. but the fact that part of "us" includes Conner and Leon...we will get there...and the satisfaction once we do...
I would take this comment in years where we are still building a team to compete...but we have been saying for months - now is the time. We cannot wait and see if he turns from raw to cooked (cured??) for next year...we need to sell that promise/hope to another team for someone that is going to bring what we need next June, because they have already proven that they can.
The question for me is how much cap it takes to sign him and what we're giving up to make that happen.
It's hard to say, tbh. Been too engrossed with playoffs to really armchair GM last little bit.
