Post-Game Talk: A New Level of Suckage | Canucks 0 @ Jets 2
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Horrorshow
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It really depends what Bo becomes. Schneider is an elite goalie, Horvat is going to have to become something you can't find for cheap in FA to make that close to a good deal. He's certainly not there yet.
It looks a lot better if Markstrom or Demko become elite goalies but we aren't close to that yet, either. Both have a shot, though.
I'm not entirely convinced. I think players don't have a clear idea of what kind of game they're supposed to be playing. There's a huge amount of confusion going on in games.
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Pip
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I'm not saying Gillis handled the goalie situation great but he did at least leave two very good pieces back and he left our goaltending situation in a good place. I don't think it's been the cause or even a large contributing factor of this team's downturn.
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the only decent thing about this awful team is the goaltending, so it makes total sense in benning logic that the coach responsible for turning this organization into a goalie factory will be let go after the season
Soups On
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McCann showed huge upside in draft+1 year and was great at the beginning of the season. He should've been sent to the WJC and then sent down to juniors. He easily looks like a top 15 player in the draft as of now... He isn't strong enough for the NHL and an off season of training and a year in Utica should help fix that. Benning deserves a hell of a lot of crap but drafting McCann was a great move.
I believe it's already been posted several times but relative to his peers, Virtanen is doing well in P/60 and even strength points. He obviously has faults but he's shown good progress this season.
As a whole, the 2014 draft is projecting well. Virtanen, McCann, Demko and Tryamkin all show signs of being NHLers. Forsling is also projecting really well. From 2015, Boesee is breaking records and late rounders Gaudette, Olsen and Neill are tracking really well. Right now, Benning's drafts look good as players are tracking in the right direction.
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McCann looks better than some of the other 1st rounders because he was rushed to the NHL. I really like him but he has a long ways to go towards being an everyday player. I still stand by my original prediction that Barbashev ends up the better player. If I'm wrong I will happily admit it.
That's a stretch. Even if you just look at NHL production, McCann is something like 10th. That also assumes that you would rather have him than Dal Colle, Vrana, Sanheim, Kapanen, Dvorak, Fiala, Honka and a few other players.
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WTG
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When the 2 faces of the franchise talk people listen.
They don't need a good run of games where they play lights out to call people out.
I think they earned that right with there time here.
ProstheticConscience
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Yes they have quit. Or at least know they get to be on the golf course very very soon. I do not condone that from the players but the blame needs to be on the coach. As the coach it's his job to keep the team focused, whether the games are meaningful or not. It seems like willy has taken a page from Torts and "lost the room." The players should not be quitting, especially when they are being paid very good money to do what they love. But it is still up to the coach to keep the team on track and motivate the players to still give it their all even in the meaningless games.
Willy has proven time and time again he is in over his head and is unable to matchup to allow his players to succeed. Take the game vs the jets for an example, we were getting shelled with shots and not producing any good chances to score. It took him until 2 minutes left in the game for me to notice him even remotely try to line juggle and find a combo that could make something happen. That change was putting vey out with bo and baertschi. Vey had a bad game all night and so did virtanen so I'm not saying it was the wrong move to try to get something going, but it's a move that you need to make during an intermission to allow them more than one shift to reacquaint themselves with each other again. Finally he took way too long to pull Markstrom when we were clearly struggling generating quality scoring opportunities at 5 on 5. Once pulled he played Virtanen as the 6th attacker even though he had not played well all night. As a result Virtanen makes a poor drop pass with. 2 defenders on him that swallow Burrows up and the Jets go down the ice to score the empty netter. To make matters worse, Bartkowski was on the ice to try to tie the game up. Obviously we didn't have the usual Edler to turn to but there is no excuse for Bartkowski to be out there when trying to tie the game.
This.
A guy at the last home game said when he saw the kids coming back to the bench. They were done. Completely exhausted and defeated.
The kids are done. Horvat has played way beyond expectations and same with mccann and virtanen. Hutton and baertschi.
Vey and bartkowski are garbage of garbage players and this is a bad team with core injuries to our 2/3c 1/2 d and 1rw lol.
Enjoy the last 10 games cuz you all know that itch in august you'll have.
The picks before and after Virtanen have 0 NHL points so far...
It'll be a long time before we can figure out if he was the best pick of the options discussed, but he's actually the 5th best Vancouver forward (although that probably doesn't say much) in 5v5 points/60. Decent display in the NHL for someone who isn't even 20 yet.
It'll be a long time before we can figure out if he was the best pick of the options discussed, but he's actually the 5th best Vancouver forward (although that probably doesn't say much) in 5v5 points/60. Decent display in the NHL for someone who isn't even 20 yet.
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That's fine, but in their mid 30s now they are tailing off significantly like they do most seasons now down the stretch when the playoff teams gear up and the hockey gets harder. Seemed like a weird time for Daniel to be pointing the finger at others. Not like they are scoring or impressing anyone of late.
Hit the post
I have your gold medal Zippy!
To be fair, those other players weren't carrying the team earlier in the season either.
Cupless44
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To be fair those other players are 19, playing in the NHL at junior age, trying to learn the league, making 850,000 not being paid 14 million to lead the team.
This is not the first time in the last few years the Sedins fade down the stretch.
The goalies are the only players on this team who should be calling anyone out. The guys who get no goal support from anyone, including the Sedins, and are left to face 40-50 shots most nights.
Hit the post
I have your gold medal Zippy!
Goalies should be only calling out the GM who gave Willie the crap on the blueline (which led to the 40-50 shots most nights....)
Sedins 'paid their dues' with the club to be allowed a mulligan or two. They're the only reason we're ahead of the Oilers in any given season.
Cupless44
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Yes the Sedins have earned their due here and Daniel has earned the right to voice some frustration. But lets just be clear that they are not doing much of anything either on the ice.
The team is not scoring. The Sedins were noticeable in a recent game or two but had a stretch before that where they were as invisible as anyone.
