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renberg

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Meltzer from hockeybuzz. I wonder how much Torts spewing this crap led to passing on buium:

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The Flyers were never going to repeat their 3 goals on 6 SOG from the other night. Andrae's play makes you wonder why he couldn't get out of the press box earlier in the season.
- Flyers_01


I was told by someone in hockey ops that Tortorella did not want "go too small on D" with three small/smallish D. York and Drysdale are in the lineup, so that squeezed out Andrae when he was called up. Right now with York out, though, there's an opportunity for Andrae. He was a bright spot last night.
BJM has told us that Tortorella has no power over who gets drafted. Hmmm
 

deadhead

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Who is the head of Comcast Spectacor?

You know they own and operate the arena, right? It's nuts to think that is some forgotten and neglected asset. Pretending all these Comcast employees have nothing to do with Comcast is delusional.
Hilferty.

They're as much a real estate company as anything else.
Not only own the Fargo center, but are working on a $2.5 billion project around the stadiums.
"Phillies say they’re joining with Comcast Spectacor in $2.5 billion transformation of South Philadelphia Sports Complex."

Comcast Spectacor is the principal owner of Spectra (formerly Global Spectrum, Ovations and Paciolan). Globally, Spectra serves 300-plus clients at more than 400 properties.
Comcast Spectacor owns Ovations Food Services.
New Era Tickets is the full-service ticketing subsidiary of Comcast Spectacor,

So it's not like Hilferty is spending most of his time with the Flyers.
And he's not a "Comcast guy," cut his teeth as CEO of IBX. This is his retirement gig.

The Flyers are run by Jones and Briere. Hilferty is basically hands off, though he probably has to sign off on major expenditures like big money contracts.
 

deadhead

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BJM has told us that Tortorella has no power over who gets drafted. Hmmm
That wasn't about drafting, it's not just that York and Drysdale are smaller, Zamula also plays small.

His concern was probably that if he has to pair two undersized D-men, opposing teams would crash the net, and they would struggle to win board battles to stop the cycle.
 

Hollywood Cannon

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I’m old enough to remember these quotes which painted Dave Scott and Hilferty as only running the Flyers and their extended hockey operations. Now? They’re super busy and barely even look at those things.

Hilferty is rich, ran a major corporation for 10 years, I doubt he just wants to run a business unit for Comcast.
He may be living every fan's dream "If I was running the team . . . "
Oh, I'd expect Scott to be a fanboy similar to many here.
I mean what does he do with his time?
He's not really running the business side.
 

deadhead

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I’m old enough to remember these quotes which painted Dave Scott and Hilferty as only running the Flyers and their extended hockey operations. Now? They’re super busy and barely even look at those things.
Hilferty has supported the rebuild, Scott made it clear that they weren't rebuilding.
That's what CEOs do, set the general organizational philosophy then delegate management decisions.

The difference is Hilferty actually knows what the blue line is, Scott was the CFO of Comcast (which means he didn't have line management experience) and was clueless about hockey.

For better or worse, it's going to be Jones/Briere/Torts running the show the next few years.
Since they seem to have a general consensus about what they want to do, doubtful advisors have any meaningful input.
They may screw it up, but not because of some "conspiratorial" deep Flyers state.

The advantage of Briere being special advisor is he had a year to watch everyone do their jobs and evaluate them instead of having to focus on day to day activities. Much like Howie when Kelly got him exiled for a year. Of course he wasn't going to criticize CF, when you're the heir apparent, the last thing you do is make waves. The fact that he hasn't made wholesale (he has made some) changes suggests he saw the problem was at the top. The biggest change was demoting Brown as head of pro personnel (to scout, probably to ease him into retirement). The other was doubling the size of the analytics group.
 

Beef Invictus

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Hilferty.

They're as much a real estate company as anything else.
Not only own the Fargo center, but are working on a $2.5 billion project around the stadiums.
"Phillies say they’re joining with Comcast Spectacor in $2.5 billion transformation of South Philadelphia Sports Complex."

Comcast Spectacor is the principal owner of Spectra (formerly Global Spectrum, Ovations and Paciolan). Globally, Spectra serves 300-plus clients at more than 400 properties.
Comcast Spectacor owns Ovations Food Services.
New Era Tickets is the full-service ticketing subsidiary of Comcast Spectacor,

So it's not like Hilferty is spending most of his time with the Flyers.
And he's not a "Comcast guy," cut his teeth as CEO of IBX. This is his retirement gig.

The Flyers are run by Jones and Briere. Hilferty is basically hands off, though he probably has to sign off on major expenditures like big money contracts.

He is literally a Comcast guy.

The Flyers being run by Jones and Briere is a disaster. That's the whole point. They're alumni guys. Mr "Hands Off" allows them to remain empowered. Nothing has changed. The people you slammed for supposedly bringing down Fletcher? All still in charge. All doing the same things.

The idea that Hilferty is blissfully unaware of the major tenant of their major property is completely goofy, by the way.

I very strongly suggest you not waste time trying to weave some tale that Comcast doesn't care about money. This is a company that will spend 500 bucks to collect 20 bucks from someone they admit they charged wrongfully. Because the important thing is getting the money. It's the most bizarre deflection you've tried yet. "These guys are different because Comcast doesn't care about a mere billion dollars" doesn't float.
 

Beef Invictus

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Hilferty has supported the rebuild, Scott made it clear that they weren't rebuilding.
That's what CEOs do, set the general organizational philosophy then delegate management decisions.

The difference is Hilferty actually knows what the blue line is, Scott was the CFO of Comcast (which means he didn't have line management experience) and was clueless about hockey.

For better or worse, it's going to be Jones/Briere/Torts running the show the next few years.
Since they seem to have a general consensus about what they want to do, doubtful advisors have any meaningful input.
They may screw it up, but not because of some "conspiratorial" deep Flyers state.

The advantage of Briere being special advisor is he had a year to watch everyone do their jobs and evaluate them instead of having to focus on day to day activities. Much like Howie when Kelly got him exiled for a year. Of course he wasn't going to criticize CF, when you're the heir apparent, the last thing you do is make waves. The fact that he hasn't made wholesale (he has made some) changes suggests he saw the problem was at the top. The biggest change was demoting Brown as head of pro personnel (to scout, probably to ease him into retirement). The other was doubling the size of the analytics group.

Jones confirmed there is no rebuild. It was a lie all along to try and scam some money from gullible fans, and at this point lives only in your imagination.
 

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