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GDT: 9/30/24 - 7:00PM EDT - Tampa Bay @ Florida [Preseason Game 4]
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Stoked about the possibility of keeping one or two of the G’s and giving Sheary a backpack and compass.
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Just saw the highlights. Geekie's pass of the redirect was smooth.
Also glad to have my boi Mickey Deeznuts back. @RussianGuyovich it's time to put the posters back up.
Also glad to have my boi Mickey Deeznuts back. @RussianGuyovich it's time to put the posters back up.
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Tampa won't waste 850k of cap space by waiving Sheary now, unless.a team seems interested in claiming him. Geekie will likely get some seasoning in Syracuse, and if he's as good there as advertised, he'll be up soon in place of someone who is struggling and the team can realistically afford to send down or lose to.waivers. Tampa isn't a team that usually allows a prospect to bypass Syracuse entirely, and I doubt they rush Geekie either. 3 games against mostly less than average opposition isn't really enough to give him.a spot. He'll be with the team soon enough, but Atkinaon and Sheary aren't losing their spots to start the season barring injury or some unusual circumstances.
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If Tampa did decide to roll with the young guys, I'd hope they committed to it fully and just waive Sheary in order to keep all three of Goncalves, Geekie and either Brown or Groshev up. They could roll with the following lines:
Guentzel-Point-Kuch
Hagel-Cirelli-Geekie
Eyssimont-Paul-Atkinson
Girgensons-Glendening-Goncalves
Chaffee and one of Brown/Groshev also likely mixing in
I doubt they go this route, at least not to start the year, as Cooper usually goes with the vets and more experienced players over unproven rookies, but maybe.
Guentzel-Point-Kuch
Hagel-Cirelli-Geekie
Eyssimont-Paul-Atkinson
Girgensons-Glendening-Goncalves
Chaffee and one of Brown/Groshev also likely mixing in
I doubt they go this route, at least not to start the year, as Cooper usually goes with the vets and more experienced players over unproven rookies, but maybe.
If Geekie makes the team, it's probably going to be on a lower line. Point first made the team as a winger on the third line and scored 18 goals. Stamkos started on our fourth line. I remember he broke our rookie goal scoring record off an assist by fourth liner Zenon Konopka (who actually made a great play). Kucherov also played on our third line as a rookie, same with Palat, TJ and Killorn. Cooper seems to want to see his rookies, even our prized ones, earn their scoring time and prove they can play the defensive side first.
Our hole at 2RW would be the only reason I see him breaking that pattern, but I think for opening night and at least a while after that, Cooper will try a vet like Atkinson until they prove they prove beyond a doubt they can't do it.
Geekie shows a lot of promise, but he still might not be ready to be our 2nd line savior. I remember Kucherov scored a pretty goal every preseason game he played his rookie year, but struggled to finish in the regular season games, scoring only 9 in 52 games. He frequently got breakaways that year, but just couldn't finish.
I'd like to see Geekie dominate in Syracuse for maybe 20-30 games, and then bring him up. That's what they did with Kuch - he started on Syracuse and scored 13 goals in 17 games and was promptly brought up.
Our hole at 2RW would be the only reason I see him breaking that pattern, but I think for opening night and at least a while after that, Cooper will try a vet like Atkinson until they prove they prove beyond a doubt they can't do it.
Geekie shows a lot of promise, but he still might not be ready to be our 2nd line savior. I remember Kucherov scored a pretty goal every preseason game he played his rookie year, but struggled to finish in the regular season games, scoring only 9 in 52 games. He frequently got breakaways that year, but just couldn't finish.
I'd like to see Geekie dominate in Syracuse for maybe 20-30 games, and then bring him up. That's what they did with Kuch - he started on Syracuse and scored 13 goals in 17 games and was promptly brought up.
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Stamkos's rookie season was under very different circumstances.
Anything before Cooper (BC) sort of doesn't count for much more than comparison.
edit: It's come to my attention that BC is already in use to discuss years, so I propose the alternative Before Cooper Era (BCE).
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If memory serves, Point made the team that way, but everyone got injured that year and he wound up centering the top line, which gave him a chance to shine. We made a late push and nearly made the playoffs despite half the team being down.
Usually with Coop, guys start on lower lines and then have to show some defensive responsibility before being trusted in bigger roles. The frustrating thing is it's almost always an injury that opens up a door. That was even true for Kucherov.
Geekie is our first major forward project since... Cirelli, depending on how you view him? Maybe Point. So it's tough to say if there have been any changes in the philosophy. We aren't nearly so log jammed as we were in those years.
I don't remember if Point played the whole year on wing, but I remember him playing a good part of the season there, and he was effective - he demonstrated his ability to create chances even being on the third.
I do remember TJ's first big chance on the scoring lines resulted from an injury as you said and he moved from the third to centering the top line for several games. It was probably one of Stamkos's injuries.
He may not have the ceiling of Point, but I agree with treating him as our best forward project since Point. It's him and Howard, pretty much, as the crown jewels. I was hoping to see more out of Gauthier last night, but he wasn't much of a factor that I saw.
