GDT: 9/22 - Finland vs. Russia - 3 PM ET

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Vatanen is not a shooting threat. There is only 1 shooting threat on that PP.


Where you might have a point though is that the other PP has 0 shooting threats so maybe Vatanen's 0.01 shooting threat factor is higher than that.

What? Honestly, I sometimes think you started to watch hockey few months back and exclusively focus on Laine.
 
Vatanen is not a shooting threat. There is only 1 shooting threat on that PP.


Where you might have a point though is that the other PP has 0 shooting threats so maybe Vatanen's 0.01 shooting threat factor is higher than that.

That is exactly the mistake...If you always try to use the same option in the PP, that never works...you need to have several options at the same time
 
What? Honestly, I sometimes think you started to watch hockey few months back and exclusively focus on Laine.

Great.

Vatanen's been a threat only to his own team by shooting and losing possession. Has he had a good or even a dangerous shot all tournament?
 
Vatanen is not a shooting threat. There is only 1 shooting threat on that PP.


Where you might have a point though is that the other PP has 0 shooting threats so maybe Vatanen's 0.01 shooting threat factor is higher than that.
Um... Have you been following Vatanen only in this tournament 'cause it looks like it by your comment.
 
Yeah, he should be on the Russian team. Our dumb federation never invited him

I bet it was an honest mistake. But there was a good chance for Russia to snatch Barkov to their NT. Thanks for that. We should make sure you win this one as a thank you. :laugh:
 
Great.

Vatanen's been a threat only to his own team by shooting and losing possession. Has he had a good or even a dangerous shot all tournament?

Vatanen is a shooting threat when he's being used as a one. If not, he certainly isn't a passing threat. He's on the wrong side for starters. I don't get it if they don't swith for Risto.
 
Um... Have you been following Vatanen only in this tournament 'cause it looks like it by your comment.

"Vatanen has not been a shooting threat in this tournament."

Better?

But yes, if you say that he should be on the other PP, I even agreed with you.
 
When Finland has to rely on an unexperienced 18 year old to carry the team offensively, you know they're in big trouble. The pressure the media puts on Laine is ridiculous. Comparing him to Ovechkin? Lol.

Small nations suffer alot from generation changes. The team is simply too young right now.

Sweden don't even play their upcoming stars, because they can afford not to, while Finland has to.
 
Great.

Vatanen's been a threat only to his own team by shooting and losing possession. Has he had a good or even a dangerous shot all tournament?

Besides, statistics can be used to understand a game, but not to fully explain it...simply because there are numbers without correcting factors quantifying the different importance value of different actions...all count the same...ask anybody who understand a little bit of mathematics, man...you will see how wrong you are
 
When Finland has to rely on an unexperienced 18 year old to carry the team offensively, you know they're in big trouble.

Small nations suffer alot from generation changes. The team is simply too young right now.

Thats true. Few years from now we will be in better shape. But as of now, our big guns are just simply too young.
 
Vatanen is not a shooting threat. There is only 1 shooting threat on that PP.


Where you might have a point though is that the other PP has 0 shooting threats so maybe Vatanen's 0.01 shooting threat factor is higher than that.

Vats not a threat to shoot? Give me a break.
 
Really? Or was that just tongue in cheek?

It sounded like they are saying that Hull and Chelios will be given live mics during the second period and that they are gonna have "some interesting interaction with Steve Levy and Barry Melrose about the state of this USA Team"

Kinda sounds like they are promoting a live roast of John Tortorella during the second period of USA vs. Czech
 
When Finland has to rely on an unexperienced 18 year old to carry the team offensively, you know they're in big trouble. The pressure the media puts on Laine is ridiculous. Comparing him to Ovechkin? Lol.

Small nations suffer alot from generation changes. The team is simply too young right now.

Sweden don't even play their upcoming stars, because they can afford not to.

Agreed...too much hype...what we are gonna be damn good in 4 years time...
 
Vats not a threat to shoot? Give me a break.

It depends on how you define "threat". He certainly shouldn't be shooting on the PP he's on, so he's not been a threat to anyone but his team.

Apart from that, Vatanen had 4 PPG in 71 games last season.
 
The hands freeze every time we get close to the net. Just no killer instinct this tournament. And pp needs new ideas. Can't understand why the Vatanen-Laine duo is still forcing those plays.
 
come on finland, figure it out - i want to see NA so much more than this russian team
 
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