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#87 Sidney Crosby Milestone Thread - History will be made: 20 consecutive PPG seasons

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Monsieur Miz said:
Crosby and potentially Ovechkin breaking Gretzky's records. What an era.
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Pretty crazy really. I was just thinking about records that may never be broken, Gretzky has several, but Crosby might actually have one other than this 20 straight seasons at above 1ppg.

Youngest player to score 100pts in the NHL. I never thought about it before, but this is almost impossible for someone to beat. Start by looking at history....only 3 players (apart from Crosby) have scored 100pts in the year immediately after being drafted (Lemieux, Hawerchuk and Gretzky) and they all did that in the 80s. I'm including Gretzky, he wasn't drafted, but the timing works (i.e. starting at 18). So start with that really low likelihood of jumping in and scoring 100pts right away, but then you'd also have to have been born between Aug 9th and Sep 15th. Technically, you could do it having been born earlier than that, but it would mean you aren't getting a full season in. As an example, because Gretzky was born in January, he probably wouldn't have even played a game in the NHL at the age Crosby scored his 100th point. Someone born in March would have to to get to 100pts after playing 20 games or something in their rookie year.
 
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Toby91ca said:
Pretty crazy really. I was just thinking about records that may never be broken, Gretzky has several, but Crosby might actually have one other than this 20 straight seasons at above 1ppg.

Youngest player to score 100pts in the NHL. I never thought about it before, but this is almost impossible for someone to beat. Start by looking at history....only 3 players (apart from Crosby) have scored 100pts in the year immediately after being drafted (Lemieux, Hawerchuk and Gretzky) and they all did that in the 80s. I'm including Gretzky, he wasn't drafted, but the timing works (i.e. starting at 18). So start with that really low likelihood of jumping in and scoring 100pts right away, but then you'd also have to have been born between Aug 9th and Sep 15th. Technically, you could do it having been born earlier than that, but it would mean you aren't getting a full season in. As an example, because Gretzky was born in January, he probably wouldn't have even played a game in the NHL at the age Crosby scored his 100th point. Someone born in March would have to to get to 100pts after playing 20 games or something in their rookie year.
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Crosby is also the youngest to win an Art ross at 19. N youngest to lead the playoffs in scoring at 20.
 
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An update on these four similar, but separate, accomplishments:

Most seasons scoring at least 1 point per game
  • Crosby - 20x
  • Gretzky - 19x
  • Howe - 17x
  • Lemieux, Messier, Sakic, Malkin, Dionne, Francis - 15x
Most consecutive seasons scoring at least 1 point per game
  • Crosby - 20x
  • Gretzky - 19x
  • Lemieux (if we disregard entirely the seasons he missed), Dionne - 15x
  • Bourque, Hawerchuk - 13x
  • Messier - 12x
Most seasons scoring more than 1 point per game
  • Crosby - 19x (possibly 20x)
  • Gretzky - 18x
  • Howe - 17x
  • Lemieux, Messier, Malkin, Dionne, Francis - 15x
Most consecutive seasons scoring more than 1 point per game
  • Crosby - 19x (possibly 20x)
  • Gretzky, Lemieux (if we disregard entirely the seasons he missed), Dionne - 15x
  • Bourque, Hawerchuk - 13x
  • Messier - 12x
 
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paracord said:
He is the youngest person to win a scoring title in any North American major pro sport and also the only teenager to ever do it.
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This is always a weird factoid to hang your hat on.

Gretzky was 8 months younger when he first led the NHL in scoring. He lost on a technicality, but he did lead the league in points while younger than Crosby.
 
jigglysquishy said:
This is always a weird factoid to hang your hat on.

Gretzky was 8 months younger when he first led the NHL in scoring. He lost on a technicality, but he did lead the league in points while younger than Crosby.
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There is a video from that season of gretzky getting 2 assists while not even on the ice. That doesnt happen in 2007
 
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Chuck Norris Trophy said:
Just out of curiosity, how many games does one have to play per season to have his points counted in this feat? For the lulz, if some player played 21 seasons and only played in one game every season and scored in every one of those games, would he beat the record? Change the number to two, or three, or four, how about now? What is the limit?
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There isn't a limit of games but you would be hard pressed to find any player who plays 1,2,3,4 games at a PPG for more than 2 seasons in a row.

So I'm not sure exactly what you are asking here?
 
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wetcoast said:
There isn't a limit of games but you would be hard pressed to find any player who plays 1,2,3,4 games at a PPG for more than 2 seasons in a row.

So I'm not sure exactly what you are asking here?
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And, not to mention, no one would make an NHL roster 21 seasons in a row if they were only able to play one game per year. Kind of a ridiculous strawman.
 
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jigglysquishy said:
This is always a weird factoid to hang your hat on.

Gretzky was 8 months younger when he first led the NHL in scoring. He lost on a technicality, but he did lead the league in points while younger than Crosby.
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You can make the argument that comparing Crosby's 06/07 season is the fairer comparison to Wayne's 79/80 season. Wayne was five months younger but had a year of pro hockey under his belt.

Or another way to look at it.

Wayne started playing at age 18 years and 8 months. As a teenager, he played 126 games and was tied with Dionne in PPG but behind in points.

Crosby played 86 games after reaching the same age (18 years and 8 months) and was leading in points and PPG.

McDavid was also a January birthday. He played 86 games as a teenager and was 3rd in PPG behind Kane and Crosby.

Mario was 10th in PPG as a teenager but he was rookie the whole time on a notably bad team. His 2nd season was similar to Crosby and McDavid's but he was notably a full year older than Crosby.

Crosby had a similar offensive start to his career as Wayne but did not hit the statistical dominance that Wayne did.
 
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A final update on these four similar, but separate, accomplishments:

Most seasons scoring at least 1 point per game
  • Crosby - 20x
  • Gretzky - 19x
  • Howe - 17x
  • Lemieux, Messier, Sakic, Malkin, Dionne, Francis - 15x
Most consecutive seasons scoring at least 1 point per game
  • Crosby - 20x
  • Gretzky - 19x
  • Lemieux (if we disregard entirely the seasons he missed), Dionne - 15x
  • Bourque, Hawerchuk - 13x
  • Messier - 12x
Most seasons scoring more than 1 point per game
  • Crosby - 20x
  • Gretzky - 18x
  • Howe - 17x
  • Lemieux, Messier, Malkin, Dionne, Francis - 15x
Most consecutive seasons scoring more than 1 point per game
  • Crosby - 20x
  • Gretzky, Lemieux (if we disregard entirely the seasons he missed), Dionne - 15x
  • Bourque, Hawerchuk - 13x
  • Messier - 12x
 
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Mario dominated the league. Best player talent wise hands down. Put Mario with the Oilers in that era and it is just head shaking. Gretzky was incredible but man the talent he played with during his prime was special. Sid really was unique in his 200 foot game and IQ off the charts. Watch the game today and his play is still outstanding after 20 years. Sid has been as good as the top players at age 38. Incredible.
 
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Every year in the league over a PPG, for 2 decades.

Sid doesn't look close to being done. I really hope he decides to play more than the 2 years he just signed on for, as it'll take 3 to eclipse 2K points, and he deserves to reach that milestone given how much of his prime was lost to ridiculously unlikely injuries and a lockout.
 
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paracord said:
You could make this argument for Mario, but not for Sid. And I'm Penguins fan.
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Mario is #1 on my list. I'm basing this on seing him and Gretzky play and also watched all of their highlights. I disagree on Sid the Kid, I would choose a rookie Crosby over a rookie Gretzky on my team in any era of hockey. Lot's of different things factor into my decision, but I also respect your opinion though. Gretzky is an exceptional center, but ranks 3rd for me despite the point lead, for other reasons. McDavid is 4th on my list.

Let's not forget the cheap shots to the head Crosby indured, the roughing, the hacking. I'm not a Penguins fan, but i'm a Crosby fan, and i remember the abuse he took, what a warrior. Gretzky never had any of that done to him, he would have crumbled. Lemieux could skate through 4 guys hooking and slashing him, make them all look bad and score a beauty, he was physically unstoppable, the greatest ever.

Sydney Crosby is an ambassador to the game of hockey. He has been the absolute example of excellence on and off the ice, a mentor every little kid and grown man can look to.
 
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ImporterExporter said:
Every year in the league over a PPG, for 2 decades.

Sid doesn't look close to being done. I really hope he decides to play more than the 2 years he just signed on for, as it'll take 3 to eclipse 2K points, and he deserves to reach that milestone given how much of his prime was lost to ridiculously unlikely injuries and a lockout.
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It'd take, at the very least, 4 seasons for him to get to 2k, but I'd wager 5.

I hope he does, had he not missed so much time due to concussions, he'd be a lock for it.
 
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