GDT: #73 - 03/24/14 | Phoenix Coyotes @ New York Rangers | 7:00 - MSG

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If you have not seen him take whole games where he did not use his physical presence you are not paying attention. Even if he is not scoring he should be a physical force every single game and he ain't.

No, you're just incorrect. That's all. None of that is "taking games off." It's being a dumb player who doesn't know what to do on the ice quite often. The dude is anything but lazy out there and he doesn't take games off.

I suggest you pay attention yourself, chosen. You're a bit off today.
 
No one is saying it is ruining Kreider, but it is a big part of the reason why, with his skills, he'll likely top out as a 25-25 player.
 
The biggest problem has not been a mistake by Kreider or his hockey intelligence/lack there of, it has been PHX 30 face off wins to our 14. That is a huge problem.

Was just gonna post something like this. Huge problem this game
 
Hagelin is slightly below average? :laugh:

You're kidding, right? Hagelin is one of the dumbest players in the entire league. He has a head of rocks. Luckily for him he has a decent shot and is fast as can be. Hagelin doesn't even know what wing he plays on.

Kreider is slightly smarter than Hagelin, which isn't saying much.

Wow, it's a wonder these guys could even put their skates on......
 
No one is saying it is ruining Kreider, but it is a big part of the reason why, with his skills, he'll likely top out as a 25-25 player.

Yeah, I don't understand how people don't get that no one is bashing the kid or anything. I love Kreider. I can live with him making mistakes like that now and then since he normally doesn't cost the team much.

But he's a dumb player and has always been dumb. It is what it is. If he wasn't dumb, he'd be an elite player.
 
I mean in general. He's a dumb hockey player. Not as dumb as Hagelin but not much brighter.

Dumb or young and learning ? His bugaboo was always his hockey iq and smarts. Kid just needs to play more.

I'm hopeful the more he plays the better his game feel gets. His skills are undeniable

I'm fairly happy with his improvement but he is still prone to stretches of "wtf are you doing" play.
 
Talking about hockey IQ, I don't care if Hagelin is an astrophysicist, if hockey players were animals, he'd be a squirrel.

No, no. He'd be the animal chasing squirrels.

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