GDT: #71 | Blue Jackets at FLYERS | Thu., Mar. 15, 2018, 7:00 pm ET | NBCSP, FS-O

[deadhead]

Bad Japanese Sci-Fi.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

The Flyers collapse would be all at once. Like a boulder fall off of a building (and hopefully landing on Hak)

i like were your going with this.... more info plz ??

 

[Limeyjim]

The Flyers biggest competition is winning important games with the current coaching staff. That's who is beating them. Their opponents are just capitalising on the coaching mistakes at line selections by the Flyers coaching staff......(mainly Hakstol)

 

[gertbfrobe16]

So youre saying he's a bad coach?

Also, if there was no urgency to win now - why wouldnt we have just kept Sanheim up? werent you arguing the other day the team is getting results, and that the team has a better chance of winning with manning et all in the line up over him?

Im confused.

can't dazzle em with brilliance baffle em with bull crap lol

 

[TheKingPin]

Crash the net like ****ing maniacs. That should be the game plan.

Go old school Jonsey hartsey on them

 

[Starat327]

can't dazzle em with brilliance baffle em with bull crap lol

Right. And then no response. I'm just curious which personality I'm dealing with today.

 

[Adam Warlock]

This game is the season. No way around that.

 

[FlyTimmo]

I can't quite remember the game (I think it was in the last 4), but didn't Bill Clement say "you can stop him, you can only hope to contain him" referring to Lethera?

 

[deadhead]

So youre saying he's a bad coach?

Also, if there was no urgency to win now - why wouldnt we have just kept Sanheim up? werent you arguing the other day the team is getting results, and that the team has a better chance of winning with manning et all in the line up over him?

Im confused.

I really don't have an opinion on Hakstol.
I just don't think another coach would make a significant difference with this personnel.
I don't think another coach has a magic wand that would turn Sanheim instantly into a bigger version of Ghost.
I don't think another coach would pull off a Wizard of Oz and give Laughton instincts, Voracek a good wrist shot, Filppula his legs back, Mrazek an idea how to play goal, etc. Manning/MacDonald/Gudas/Hagg, is like Lehtera/Weise/Leier/Read, if those are your choices, you have issues.

So I don't get bent out of shape over Hakstol's decisions, because I think they're basically irrelevant, given the personnel, ex post, most decisions will turn out to be the wrong ones. Replacing one scrub with another scrub just changes the name of the scapegoat.

I like the scheme, I like the fact that players have good discipline, and I think the prospects have been brought along and developed about as well as can be expected, we're not Edmonton, where high draft picks go to see their careers die. I think Sanheim didn't play as well as most of y'all do, and I think he was helped by being sent down. I'm more interested in what he can do next year than whether he provides a marginal improvement this year. I don't think it helps a player to struggle at the NHL level, so I see no value in rushing prospects.

So to me, Hakstol isn't the problem, in two years, when this team has real talent, and he can't get them to play up to that talent, I may sing a different tune. But right now, my expectations are pretty low, when the team was winning, I saw no reason not to ride it out, now that they're struggling, I see no reason to panic. Because to me this season is just treading water.

 

[Starat327]

I really don't have an opinion on Hakstol.
I just don't think another coach would make a significant difference with this personnel.
I don't think another coach has a magic wand that would turn Sanheim instantly into a bigger version of Ghost.
I don't think another coach would pull off a Wizard of Oz and give Laughton instincts, Voracek a good wrist shot, Filppula his legs back, Mrazek an idea how to play goal, etc. Manning/MacDonald/Gudas/Hagg, is like Lehtera/Weise/Leier/Read, if those are your choices, you have issues.

So I don't get bent out of shape over Hakstol's decisions, because I think they're basically irrelevant, given the personnel, ex post, most decisions will turn out to be the wrong ones. Replacing one scrub with another scrub just changes the name of the scapegoat.

I like the scheme, I like the fact that players have good discipline, and I think the prospects have been brought along and developed about as well as can be expected, we're not Edmonton, where high draft picks go to see their careers die. I think Sanheim didn't play as well as most of y'all do, and I think he was helped by being sent down. I'm more interested in what he can do next year than whether he provides a marginal improvement this year. I don't think it helps a player to struggle at the NHL level, so I see no value in rushing prospects.

So to me, Hakstol isn't the problem, in two years, when this team has real talent, and he can't get them to play up to that talent, I may sing a different tune. But right now, my expectations are pretty low, when the team was winning, I saw no reason not to ride it out, now that they're struggling, I see no reason to panic. Because to me this season is just treading water.

Never in the history of humanity has a human being used so many words to say so little.

No one is asking Hakstol to work magic. We're asking him to make good decisions based on what he has available to him.

I'll try to make this simpler. Do you think his choices always put the team in the best situation to succeed? Hell, I'll even let you define succeed by either results or development.

 

[YamCork]

I can't quite remember the game (I think it was in the last 4), but didn't Bill Clement say "you can stop him, you can only hope to contain him" referring to Lethera?

I also remember Clement saying this a number of games back.. "If the entire game was played along the boards, Jori Lehtera would be an NHL All Star"

 

[deadhead]

I'll try to make this simpler. Do you think his choices always put the team in the best situation to succeed? Hell, I'll even let you define succeed by either results or development.

Name me a coach who always makes the right decision ex post.

I just think that most of the complaints here are wishful thinking (Sanheim and Laughton are better players than I think they are right now) and nitpicking, how can you play Lehtera over Leier? (Uh, because the last couple weeks Lehtera's been a better player?).

Sure, Filppula sucks, so does Laughton defensively or as a true center (like him as a forechecker but not in his own D-zone).
Sure, Manning looks ugly, but Gudas has as well.
The best players play about as many minutes as they can handle, the rest, whatever.

So I don't sweat these decisions because I think in most cases it's tweedledee or tweedledum.

 

[Hiesenberg]

I really don't have an opinion on Hakstol.
I just don't think another coach would make a significant difference with this personnel.
I don't think another coach has a magic wand that would turn Sanheim instantly into a bigger version of Ghost.
I don't think another coach would pull off a Wizard of Oz and give Laughton instincts, Voracek a good wrist shot, Filppula his legs back, Mrazek an idea how to play goal, etc. Manning/MacDonald/Gudas/Hagg, is like Lehtera/Weise/Leier/Read, if those are your choices, you have issues.

So I don't get bent out of shape over Hakstol's decisions, because I think they're basically irrelevant, given the personnel, ex post, most decisions will turn out to be the wrong ones. Replacing one scrub with another scrub just changes the name of the scapegoat.

I like the scheme, I like the fact that players have good discipline, and I think the prospects have been brought along and developed about as well as can be expected, we're not Edmonton, where high draft picks go to see their careers die. I think Sanheim didn't play as well as most of y'all do, and I think he was helped by being sent down. I'm more interested in what he can do next year than whether he provides a marginal improvement this year. I don't think it helps a player to struggle at the NHL level, so I see no value in rushing prospects.

So to me, Hakstol isn't the problem, in two years, when this team has real talent, and he can't get them to play up to that talent, I may sing a different tune. But right now, my expectations are pretty low, when the team was winning, I saw no reason not to ride it out, now that they're struggling, I see no reason to panic. Because to me this season is just treading water.

That's a wall of text

 

[Beef Invictus]

I really don't have an opinion on Hakstol.
I just don't think another coach would make a significant difference with this personnel.
I don't think another coach has a magic wand that would turn Sanheim instantly into a bigger version of Ghost.
I don't think another coach would pull off a Wizard of Oz and give Laughton instincts, Voracek a good wrist shot, Filppula his legs back, Mrazek an idea how to play goal, etc. Manning/MacDonald/Gudas/Hagg, is like Lehtera/Weise/Leier/Read, if those are your choices, you have issues.

So I don't get bent out of shape over Hakstol's decisions, because I think they're basically irrelevant, given the personnel, ex post, most decisions will turn out to be the wrong ones. Replacing one scrub with another scrub just changes the name of the scapegoat.

I like the scheme, I like the fact that players have good discipline, and I think the prospects have been brought along and developed about as well as can be expected, we're not Edmonton, where high draft picks go to see their careers die. I think Sanheim didn't play as well as most of y'all do, and I think he was helped by being sent down. I'm more interested in what he can do next year than whether he provides a marginal improvement this year. I don't think it helps a player to struggle at the NHL level, so I see no value in rushing prospects.

So to me, Hakstol isn't the problem, in two years, when this team has real talent, and he can't get them to play up to that talent, I may sing a different tune. But right now, my expectations are pretty low, when the team was winning, I saw no reason not to ride it out, now that they're struggling, I see no reason to panic. Because to me this season is just treading water.

There were a handful of Pittsburgh fans who argued the exact same thing about Bylsma.


How has that worked out?

 

[Starat327]

Name me a coach who always makes the right decision ex post.

I just think that most of the complaints here are wishful thinking (Sanheim and Laughton are better players than I think they are right now) and nitpicking, how can you play Lehtera over Leier? (Uh, because the last couple weeks Lehtera's been a better player?).

Sure, Filppula sucks, so does Laughton defensively or as a true center (like him as a forechecker but not in his own D-zone).
Sure, Manning looks ugly, but Gudas has as well.
The best players play about as many minutes as they can handle, the rest, whatever.

So I don't sweat these decisions because I think in most cases it's tweedledee or tweedledum.

Ok, nevermind. I'm not a judge and you don't have to dance around answers with me. If you don't want to answer the question, that's fine.

 

[Striiker]

TLDR: When Hakstol makes mistakes, they don’t matter.

 

[FlyTimmo]

I also remember Clement saying this a number of game back.. "If the entire game was played along the boards, Jori Lehtera would be an NHL All Star"

I really wish I had the audio...

 

[Legion of Gloom]

What the hell did I just watch

I am not sure...but I want one.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I can't quite remember the game (I think it was in the last 4), but didn't Bill Clement say "you can stop him, you can only hope to contain him" referring to Lethera?

wasnt that also the same game were he said " if the NHL was played along the boards, he would be dominant"..


hhaahahh

oops just saw the post above...

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Never in the history of humanity has a human being used so many words to say so little.

Well, Henry James. But other than him, you are right.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

That's a wall of text

More like a wall of dreck. Imagine if you were putting up drywall, but you just forgot the drywall and put up all spackle and left it.

 

[Magua]

Well, Henry James. But other than him, you are right.

Reading an asexual author write so many useless words about life and love is about what it feels like to read someone who only watched that Saturday game from 2 months ago unendingly tell you about hockey.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Reading an asexual author write so many useless words about life and love is about what it feels like to read someone who only watched that Saturday game from 2 months ago unendingly tell you about hockey.

You have been right about a lot of things, but you have never been more right about anything than you are right now.

 

[RonHextall27]

It's like listening to a skipping record in here sometimes. All you guys ever do is cherry pick plays and players to forward your own agenda.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

It's like listening to a skipping record in here sometimes. All you guys ever do is cherry pick plays and players to forward your own agenda.

You're right, I have a very strong anti-Henry James agenda and would start a smear campaign if he were less dead.