Post-Game Talk: #7 - 10/22/19 | coyotes @ RANGERS

[NYR]

An $11.5 Million dollar player just let Dvorak walk right past him to put the game away.
That was disgraceful..

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Keep Quinn until the end of the season to help the tank and then fire him immediately after.

The problem is this comes at the expense of our other young players like Kakko

 

[UnSandvich]

Rongos gonna Rongo. f***ing yay

As a side note, Kakko having the 3rd lowest TOI in the game (over 3.5 mins less than Howden for example) is absurdly bad coaching. Lias getting just 7:34 (18 seconds more than his season low) is beyond stupid. I'm rapidly losing pretty much all faith in Quinn's ability to coach this team.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

People complaining about coaching, it's not coaching its effort, effort to do the small things that add up over a game to win. They are passengers in a boat a drift and nobody wants to row.

A coach's job is getting his players ready to play, to give that effort, so yes, it's coaching.

It's also a coach's job to deploy the players. Quinn has done an awful job at that.

 

[LeetchisGod]

People complaining about coaching, it's not coaching its effort, effort to do the small things that add up over a game to win. They are passengers in a boat a drift and nobody wants to row.

Perhaps its both.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

No, get rid of Quinn immediately. Something's gotta give. JD and JG need to step in or else there's going to be a full mutiny on our hands.

 

[NYR]

Soo..
What # you think Lafreiniere is gonna want when he gets here?

 

[Black Aces]

People complaining about coaching, it's not coaching its effort, effort to do the small things that add up over a game to win. They are passengers in a boat a drift and nobody wants to row.

That falls on the coach. To top it off, his personal decisions and usage are questionable.

 

[ElLeetch]

We'd be lucky to go 1-3.

and fortunate to go 0-4

 

[SA16]

Kakko didn't do a single thing all game at 5v5. They are not going to just feed him minutes. He was invisible.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I rather lose playing Kakko and Lias much more than lose playing plugs

Excellent point. I want to see young players playing this season. I don't give a shit about Brendan Smith.

 

[Machinehead]

Better yet, it's about time to swap Howden and literally anybody else we could have gotten from Tampa.

The guy is a f***ing crime.

 

[Blue Blooded]

on the plus side, Adam Fox looks better every game. best ranger skater tonight by a mile.

Fox has, first game jitters aside, been one of the few bright spots of this season so far - but he was a cut below at least ADA and Zib today IMO. A solid overall effort with some uncharacteristic bad giveaways.

However, one thing that is becoming clearer by every game that passes is that Fox is our best defensive defenceman - he looks Strålmanesque out there.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

I said it about Shurmer in the Giants thread, and I’ll say it about Quinn.

When this team is good again he won’t be here to see it.

 

[Machinehead]

Kakko didn't do a single thing all game at 5v5. They are not going to just feed him minutes. He was invisible.

This would be a viable argument if NHL players were playing those minutes.

 

[Black Aces]

Kakko didn't do a single thing all game at 5v5. They are not going to just feed him minutes. He was invisible.

Thats for Howden and Smith and Staal

 

[effen]

People complaining about coaching, it's not coaching its effort, effort to do the small things that add up over a game to win. They are passengers in a boat a drift and nobody wants to row.

the problem is the room. Kreider, Buchnevich, Staal and Skjei just. Don't. Really. Care.

Other teams aren't like this. I watch them. They stick up for each other (FOR REAL, not bs lay on them like Skjei the other night on Hall) and get mad when they're getting clowned on. These guys don't. Lotta paychecks being cashed.

 

[gravey9]

Well, the good news is, at some point the first line will be soooo tired from being over relied on that some of the kids will play.

But how the heck does Smith get MORE ice time after the way he played the first half of the game?

that all said, I will give Quinn and staff 5-10 more games to figure out how to win with this lineup.

If that doesn't happen, then getting the kids more ice needs to take priority.

This has been going under the radar but wow has Lemieux been underwhelming.

And finally, Kreider is being over relied on to carry the puck through the neutral zone and gain entry with possession. He can do that from time to time. But it's not suiting his strengths to be relied upon in that way.

Also, over-relying on the 1st line has pretty much made it impossible for the other lines to form chemistry. Quinn can keep shuffling but if he doesn't reign in the amount of ice time going to the first line we're doomed to stay dysfunctional for long stretches.

BTW -- First line went pointless today.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Kakko didn't do a single thing all game at 5v5. They are not going to just feed him minutes. He was invisible.

Well when your used at 5 v 5 the way he’s been used it’s hard to do anything

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Kakko didn't do a single thing all game at 5v5. They are not going to just feed him minutes. He was invisible.

He had 8 minutes on the ice, dude!

 

[Blue Blooded]

Kakko didn't do a single thing all game at 5v5. They are not going to just feed him minutes. He was invisible.

He did do the Peter Forsberg lap of the offensive zone, but it ended with a blocked pass and (IIRC) an odd man rush against.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Textbook example of a loser point. We had no business being in this game.

 

[Cag29]

The problem is this comes at the expense of our other young players like Kakko

If you say fire a guy give an example of who to hire that would be better.

 

[Kakko]

Kakko didn't do a single thing all game at 5v5. They are not going to just feed him minutes. He was invisible.

Invisible is an improvement on 70% of the team

 

[Black Aces]

the problem is the room. Kreider, Buchnevich, Staal and Skjei just. Don't. Really. Care.

Other teams aren't like this. I watch them. They stick up for each other (FOR REAL, not bs lay on them like Skjei the other night on Hall) and get mad when they're getting clowned on. These guys don't. Lotta paychecks being cashed.

Lots of speculation here.

 

[Ori]

Eric Staal & Zucc 3 points this night 20 min! to play x Rangers - the line dominate so far against the Oilers, lol.

 

[SA16]

This would be a viable argument if NHL players were playing those minutes.

Panarin, Fast Buchnevich, Kreider and Lemieux (by 2 mins) are the only wings that got more than 5v5 time than him. Why would he get more time than them other than Lemieux? Howden and Strome have nothing to do with him they dont play the same position.