Prospect Info: #69(nice)OA - Hurricanes select LHD Alexander Nikishin (Spartak - KHL)

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regardless of what you think of the kid, this is the best move. the khl isn't a league that players need rescued from if they're in a situation where they're getting minutes. it's the second best league in the world and my opinion is that he's a world better off playing the next 2 years over there than he is plugging away in minor pro in NA. the gap between major junior and NHL is shrinking due to teams being incentivized to bring kids up right away since the physical risk has lessened over time and players are only playing as long as their athletic prime allows them. the window on appropriate age for hockey has moved from 25-35 to 20-30 and those years are being shaved off between junior and minor pro.
Absolutely agree with this unless he'd be able to be essentially guaranteed an NHL slot in a year in which case that is probably the better move. But yeah KHL>AHL easily. The Canes and Rod aren't really the type of team to do that anyways but I think we could honestly slot him in on the 3rd pair left side as soon as this season and would be very happy with his play there.
 
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Absolutely agree with this unless he'd be able to be essentially guaranteed an NHL slot in a year in which case that is probably the better move. But yeah KHL>AHL easily. The Canes and Rod aren't really the type of team to do that anyways but I think we could honestly slot him in on the 3rd pair left side as soon as this season and would be very happy with his play there.


Now that's a thought.

Slavin - Chatfield/Keane
Skjei - Pesce
Nikishin - TDA

Plan to go into the year giving that 3rd line heavily sheltered 5v5 minutes until Nikishin starts to really get into a groove. Hopefully ease Chatfield or Keane into the NHL regiment with hopes that they can possibly slot down into the 2nd line by the end of the year, allowing Pesce to move up into the top line for the playoffs.

Its a gamble for sure, but one that would pay huge dividends if it pays off. Especially when at least Nikishin and Keane would be ELCs and Chatfield is making $750k, which would allow us to bring TDA back while keeping the defense at a reasonable pay rate.
 
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Now that's a thought.

Slavin - Chatfield/Keane
Skjei - Pesce
Nikishin - TDA

Plan to go into the year giving that 3rd line heavily sheltered 5v5 minutes until Nikishin starts to really get into a groove. Hopefully ease Chatfield or Keane into the NHL regiment with hopes that they can possibly slot down into the 2nd line by the end of the year, allowing Pesce to move up into the top line for the playoffs.

Its a gamble for sure, but one that would pay huge dividends if it pays off. Especially when at least Nikishin and Keane would be ELCs and Chatfield is making $750k, which would allow us to bring TDA back while keeping the defense at a reasonable pay rate.
Well, it's kind of a moot point anyway since he's under contract with Spartak for 2 more years, and I can't see them terminating that as they'd be losing a big player for them. Additionally, Chatfield/Kean on 1st pair?? You're just making Slavin a full-time baby-sitter then, and I'd honestly probably rather have TDA 1st pair in that case. As cautious as he is with forwards, i can't see Rod just handing 1st pairing ice to either of them either
 
Its Russia and they dont have to make sense but, he cant be under long term contract with CSKA if he is under contract with the Flyers. Flyers can loan him to Russia and he sign a 1 season deal. The whole transfer agreement thing.

I think it is safe to say Nishkin isnt going to come to NA anytime soon.
 
Its Russia and they dont have to make sense but, he cant be under long term contract with CSKA if he is under contract with the Flyers. Flyers can loan him to Russia and he sign a 1 season deal. The whole transfer agreement thing.

I think it is safe to say Nishkin isnt going to come to NA anytime soon.
Which is for the best. We’re hyping him a little too strong as a group. This kid is raw and it’ll be fine for him to develop a little bit more before even going to the AHL.
 


Get Nikishin to North America ASAP

He doesn't want to come here any time soon and won't, he's made that clear in interviews and is very happy and comfortable playing in Russia (can't blame him, he's an extremely rare young D man playing huge minutes in the K and was amazingly picked for their Olympic team). A lot can and will change in the next 2 years around the world so we'll have to wait to see how things play out but no point getting any hopes up for at least a few years.
 
What is "on schedule" for a KHL playing prospect? I'm not worried about him being able to come over in the time frame that the Ukrainian conflict is likely to last.
I am somewhat hopeful that he could be ready to come in and step right into the NHL squad in the 2024-25 season. I know his KHL contract runs beyond that, but he's quickly reaching the point where he doesn't have much more to prove over there and there isn't much more room to grow.

Now, I disagree about the Ukranian conflict. I hope this gets resolved soon, but Putin seems to be an exceptionally delusional prick who is going to drag this out far beyond what it should be. There's a part of me that thinks this won't be fully resolved this decade.
 
Now, I disagree about the Ukranian conflict. I hope this gets resolved soon, but Putin seems to be an exceptionally delusional prick who is going to drag this out far beyond what it should be. There's a part of me that thinks this won't be fully resolved this decade.
It can't go much beyond a year longer as an active conflict like it is now. Either the West loses their interest and pulls their support which cripples the Ukrainians, or Putin runs out of the necessary equipment to stop the Ukrainians. The loss rate of the heavy weapons and precision munitions on the Russian side is unsustainable over much more than a year. And that doesn't even count the human cost on their side (not that Putin gives two shits about that). It either ends with Ukraine negotiating when the West gets tired (I see that in another election cycle), when the Russian military/industrial capacity to keep up with losses fails (I see that in less than 12 months), or when Russia escalates using nuclear weapons (I see that in six months or less when Ukraine takes Kherson and then puts Russia's Crimean positions under their fire control). All three of those occur well before his contract is up.
 
It can't go much beyond a year longer as an active conflict like it is now. Either the West loses their interest and pulls their support which cripples the Ukrainians, or Putin runs out of the necessary equipment to stop the Ukrainians. The loss rate of the heavy weapons and precision munitions on the Russian side is unsustainable over much more than a year. And that doesn't even count the human cost on their side (not that Putin gives two shits about that). It either ends with Ukraine negotiating when the West gets tired (I see that in another election cycle), when the Russian military/industrial capacity to keep up with losses fails (I see that in less than 12 months), or when Russia escalates using nuclear weapons (I see that in six months or less when Ukraine takes Kherson and then puts Russia's Crimean positions under their fire control). All three of those occur well before his contract is up.

I don't mean this as a criticism but ending that paragraph with that bolded sentence is like Internet Hall-of-Fame level stuff. :laugh:
 
I don't mean this as a criticism but ending that paragraph with that bolded sentence is like Internet Hall-of-Fame level stuff. :laugh:
Mission Accomplished GIFs | Tenor
 
He's going to be an absolute stud once we get him here in 2025. Will step right in as an elite 2nd pair LHD in my opinion.
 
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I am somewhat hopeful that he could be ready to come in and step right into the NHL squad in the 2024-25 season. I know his KHL contract runs beyond that, but he's quickly reaching the point where he doesn't have much more to prove over there and there isn't much more room to grow.

Now, I disagree about the Ukranian conflict. I hope this gets resolved soon, but Putin seems to be an exceptionally delusional prick who is going to drag this out far beyond what it should be. There's a part of me that thinks this won't be fully resolved this decade.

Short of nuclear war, the Ukraine situation will have no influence on whether Nikishin leaves for Carolina or not.
He’ll be there when his KHL contract ends, or if he buys it out.
The latter is possible but unlikely though.
 
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He's rapidly approaching the 'nothing more to prove in Europe' stage of his career. I wonder if there is any way he might be able to get over here sooner?

I would be shocked. SKA gave up a ton to trade for him and immediately gave him a big 3 year deal, I don't think they're letting him out of it, realistically. Also, I don't think he is in any hurry at all to come to NA. I think he will eventually but he's 21 and has alluded in interviews to wanting to have significant success in the K before ever leaving. Honestly, based on some of the interviews I've seen from him I do have a very very slight concern that he'll never want to come over. I think the $$$ and prestige of playing in the best league in the world will win out but he seems very happy playing in Russia and the US/NHL doesn't seem to have the same pull for him as some others (like koochie who jumped at the chance to sign his ELC with us).
 
Doesn’t he play for Putin’s fave team? I imagine there’s some perks there
 
Him having to sign an ELC and make chump change for a couple years compared to what he could make for SKA is definitely going to be a major hurdle.
Nah. Just sign him to a 1 year ELC where 1 year is eaten the year he signs it, after the KHL season ends. Just like Sorokin. Then we have his rights to sign to a bigger deal afterwards
 
Nah. Just sign him to a 1 year ELC where 1 year is eaten the year he signs it, after the KHL season ends. Just like Sorokin. Then we have his rights to sign to a bigger deal afterwards
I mean I'd love for that to happen but he'd still probably be taking a major pay cut for that 1 season, and if he struggles and doesn't play well his rookie season who knows how much he would get paid on a new contract. It will come down to how much he values playing in the NHL.
 

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