GDT: #6 | Capitals at Flyers | Tuesday, October 22, 2024 | 6:00 PM Frenzy Time | ESPN

[Beef Invictus]

Wait, I thought any contending team would love Cates in in their middle six? Now he's a 4th liner?

Most of us don't care the team is bad. We care the team is bad because they just keep resigning everyone under the sun for their "rebuild". Tippet? 8 years. Hathaway? Resign him day 1 it's possible. Laughton? Keep him until his value is run into the dirt.

The cap is maxed, and this is the product they put on the ice? Scratching players like Frost and Brink meanwhile Tippet is playing like hot garbage but gets zero punishment? This team has no identity. The "rebuild" is already going down the path to mediocrity. Remember when they asked Danny where he was going to find elite talent, and he said they drafted high [Michkov and Gauthier] the last 2 years?

This is the team Briere thinks has enough talent to compete for the cup. You're looking at it. Add some B level prospects like Bonk. Do you think this is a cup calibre team? I hope not, because this team if f***ing trash.

Yes they aren't as bad as their record suggests, but they sure as hell aren't good enough to be worth caring about until major changes are made. Again.

Being bad can be bearable. Being bad while following zero processes that can reverse this situation? And being entirely deluded about where they stand? That's a crushing futility. The kind of sensation Soviet and Scandinavian filmmakers are fond of capturing. This is pointless suffering.

 

[freakydallas13]

Quote please. All this FO has said from day 1 is they're rebuilding, and Michkov coming over didn't change their schedule (which was after his 3 years, that is 2026-27 or later).
Briere has never said this team can compete for a Cup. Torts laughed at that suggestion.

The cap is maxed b/c they used it to obtain two more 1st rd picks instead of 2nd and 3rd rd picks.
Next year Peterson and Johansen (whatever happens) are off the books.
Briere inherited Sanheim, Couts, Risto, Laughton and Deslaurier contracts.
Ate the Hayes, Atkinson and TDA contracts.

Hathaway and Seeler cost $5M between them, replacements would cost $2M, so total cap hit is $3M.
They're not keeping this team from making moves.
They have no plans to pursue FAs for a couple more years, nor should they.

Briere straight up had no answer about where he would get elite talent, except "we drafted [Michkov and Gauthier] the last 2 years". Those are his words. That is the answer he chose to give when asked about acquiring more high end talent.

What do you think that means, exactly? Because to me it's pretty clear he thinks that is enough high end talent to win.

And the cap is maxed because they resign virtually every player possible. The Kevin Hayes buyout isn't what did this, it's extensions like Tippet and Konecny and Hathaway and Seeler and Couts and Sanheim and and and. God forbid they trade some of these aging assets to try and actually rebuild.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Quote please. All this FO has said from day 1 is they're rebuilding, and Michkov coming over didn't change their schedule (which was after his 3 years, that is 2026-27 or later).
Briere has never said this team can compete for a Cup. Torts laughed at that suggestion.

The cap is maxed b/c they used it to obtain two more 1st rd picks instead of 2nd and 3rd rd picks.
Next year Peterson and Johansen (whatever happens) are off the books.
Briere inherited Sanheim, Couts, Risto, Laughton and Deslaurier contracts.
Ate the Hayes, Atkinson and TDA contracts.

Hathaway and Seeler cost $5M between them, replacements would cost $2M, so total cap hit is $3M.
They're not keeping this team from making moves.
They have no plans to pursue FAs for a couple more years, nor should they.

Jones admitted that was a lie. All their actions confirm they were lying.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Briere straight up had no answer about where he would get elite talent, except "we drafted [Michkov and Gauthier] the last 2 years". Those are his words. That is the answer he chose to give when asked about acquiring more high end talent.

What do you think that means, exactly? Because to me it's pretty clear he thinks that is enough high end talent to win.

And the cap is maxed because they resign virtually every player possible. The Kevin Hayes buyout isn't what did this, it's extensions like Tippet and Konecny and Hathaway and Seeler and Couts and Sanheim and and and. God forbid they trade some of these aging assets to try and actually rebuild.

"We aren't going to be one of those teams with a lot of high paid talent."


**Proceeds To Invest Loads of Cap in Bottom of Roster**


Hmm, seems he was serious about that.

 

[Solution]

You also need to account for once Torts finally leaves, it will be followed up by 3-5 seasons of Lappy. ( Who actually may be worse )

NHL Xm is ripping them right now and it is glorious.

Who is ripping them on NHL XM? Typically whenever I listen, they are worshipping at the altar of Torts.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Who is ripping them on NHL XM? Typically whenever I listen, they are worshipping at the altar of Torts.

Whomever the morning hosts are, being critical again now.

 

[Solution]

Whomever the morning hosts are, being critical again now.

Interesting. I am at work by 6:30 AM so I miss the morning show. I will have to check that out. It seemed like most of the media in the NHL had an affinity for Torts.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

NJ probably stopped their rebuild a year or two early.
They have a 2-3 year window before they'll have to step the process back.
Basically gambling that Markstrom will have two good seasons in a row.

Meier was far more costly than Tippett, and TK didn't require giving up assets.
FAs are getting more expensive as the Cap rises.

Tippet will turn out to be a bad deal. It won't be a good one. There was no need to go all in fo rhis services at that time. Meir is also a much better player so of course he will cost more.

TK adds no value to help get this team over the hump in its current form or in the future. Maybe he has a Jesus moment and realizes he phucked up and asks to be traded. Highly unlikely of course. But like the organization one can hope.

I dont know that stopped too early. They got hit with a bunch of injuries. The have more than2-3 year window to me. Flyers have no window and none coming in the next 4 years.

Quote please. All this FO has said from day 1 is they're rebuilding, and Michkov coming over didn't change their schedule (which was after his 3 years, that is 2026-27 or later).
Briere has never said this team can compete for a Cup. Torts laughed at that suggestion.

The cap is maxed b/c they used it to obtain two more 1st rd picks instead of 2nd and 3rd rd picks.
Next year Peterson and Johansen (whatever happens) are off the books.
Briere inherited Sanheim, Couts, Risto, Laughton and Deslaurier contracts.
Ate the Hayes, Atkinson and TDA contracts.

Hathaway and Seeler cost $5M between them, replacements would cost $2M, so total cap hit is $3M.
They're not keeping this team from making moves.
They have no plans to pursue FAs for a couple more years, nor should they.

He also could have traded some of the inherited contracts. He tried on one and failed miserably.

The have said as soon as they have cap space they will pursue free agents. Or are you ignoring that? The only thing that may help them is no top end players want to come here.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Interesting. I am at work by 6:30 AM so I miss the morning show. I will have to check that out. It seemed like most of the media in the NHL had an affinity for Torts.

They seem to like Torts the personality, not Torts the coach.

Team being this bad will change perception very quickly. Even if they were rebuilding, regressing while rebuilding is absolute worst case scenario.

It doe appear the player are just fed up with him, so will see how this plays out.

 

[Solution]

They seem to like Torts the personality, not Torts the coach.

Team being this bad will change perception very quickly. Even if they were rebuilding, regressing while rebuilding is absolute worst case scenario.

It doe appear the player are just fed up with him, so will see how this plays out.

Most coaches have a shelf life. I think it has to do with saying the same things the same way. Very seldom do coaches evolve in the current job. It is often only after they move to another one.

 

[deadhead]

Teams don't regress during rebuilds? Could have fooled me.
Heck, teams that are at the end of rebuilds regress.

We're six games in, if you take this seriously, then we're going to have a great draft when Edmonton and the Avs miss the playoffs and we pick in the top 3. Don't think that will happen? Then maybe this is just a SSS?

 

[Boocowski]

Anger stems from the fact that they aren't tanking the team is just bad. This was the front offices idea of a good team run by good coaches and they have been categorically wrong at every turn. That means that they will most likely f*** up the high pick they are about to blunder into, thus continuing the cycle of mediocrity.

Edit: it's not even mediocre at this point it's just bad. Mediocre is what this team aspires to accomplish and they are failing at that

That's fair, but in the end it's the same result. Whether they chose to tank or bungled their way to it, they get a high pick either way.

It will be hard to completely bungle a top 5 pick this year. Possible, but unlikely.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

You also need to account for once Torts finally leaves, it will be followed up by 3-5 seasons of Lappy. ( Who actually may be worse )

NHL Xm is ripping them right now and it is glorious.

What did they say? I listen on my lunch break starting at 12 and most of it is call in shows

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Whomever the morning hosts are, being critical again now.

Steve Kulious(don’t think the spelling is right and Scott Laughton. I do believe the name is the same as our guy.