Prospect Info: 5th Overall Pick 2020: Who Do The Sens Draft

[NyQuil]

I have the feeling a few of our defensive prospects are going to either falter, or max out as 4/5D guys, so adding another defenseman like Drysdale/Sanderson is a-ok. Can never have enough strong D.

The same applies to our forwards, and we have one proven top six forward?

Although, I am really starting to think the smart move might be to move Branstrom asap. I'm not really convinced he has the wheels to survive as an undersized blueliner in the NHL. Getting a good piece for him now might be a shrewd move.

It would basically be admitting that “Dorion’s best day as GM” was a bust.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

The same applies to our forwards, and we have one proven top six forward?



It would basically be admitting that “Dorion’s best day as GM” was a bust.

True....we need more high end kids at all positions. That's the scary part.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

The same applies to our forwards, and we have one proven top six forward?



It would basically be admitting that “Dorion’s best day as GM” was a bust.

That was his proudest day... His best day might have been fixing the dressing room with that one quick move

 

[DueDiligence]

Thinking of Rob Blake saying he has 4 prospects considered for #2 overall - if reports are true and they want a D, I think they could move back. If Ottawa guarantees Blake they take Byfield and Stuzel, then at #5 they can take Drusdale or Sanderson. Rob Blake is probably looking at Sanderson and thinking, that was me at 18.

Ottawa - #2 overall
L.A. - #5 overall, #33, #46, 2nd 2021, Wolanin

big overpay!

 

[DueDiligence]

The same applies to our forwards, and we have one proven top six forward?



It would basically be admitting that “Dorion’s best day as GM” was a bust.

Actually PD's best day as a GM has been the trading of Karlsson.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I wonder who we protect in expansion draft in a year

 

[bert]

I hope everyone takes the time to watch this video and breakdown of Drysdale.

Best primary pts per 60 mintes in the entire CHL draft class for D men and very few power play points. There is alot of evidence that his point production would be alot higher if his teammates could finish his plays. Had he been on a better team I think his production would be even better. Watch his edgework and ability to escape difficult situations. His stick is incredible, his reads are top notch. I see so much Scott Niedermayer in him. His game is effortless.

 

[NyQuil]

I hope everyone takes the time to watch this video and breakdown of Drysdale.

Best primary pts per 60 mintes in the entire CHL draft class and very few power play points. There is alot of evidence that his point production would be alot higher if his teammates could finish his plays. Had he been on a better team I think his production would be even better. Watch his edgework and ability to escape difficult situations. His stick is incredible, his reads are top notch. I see so much Scott Niedermayer in him. His game is effortless.

What's funny is that we have no teammates who can finish plays.

 

[bert]

What's funny is that we have no teammates who can finish plays.

By the time he gets here there will be! He was on one of the least skilled teams in the CHL last year, pretty different situation when you're playing in the NHL. As long as he isnt setting up Connor Brown over and over again he should be fine.

 

[NyQuil]

By the time he gets here there will be!

That's my issue. I'm not so sure.

Do we go for another Chabot or get Chabot a forward to score goals for him?

 

[bert]

That's my issue. I'm not so sure.

Do we go for another Chabot or get Chabot a forward to score goals for him?

I am of the opinion you take the top pairing D man over any position other than the top pairing centerman. IE going best player available. Scoring wingers are alot easier to find and they already have alot of forward depth.

Byfield/Stutzle
Tkachuk
Batherson
Duclair
Norris
C. Brown
L. Brown
Tierney
Formenton
White
Balcers
Abramov
Pinto
Chlapik
Plus 5 more picks in the top two rounds.

They only have one top pairing D man and alot of wild cards or bottom pair players. History has told us you need two really good pairs to win anything in todays NHL. Atleast from what I have seen.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

What's funny is that we have no teammates who can finish plays.

Except we just had the highest scoring AHL team lead with our prospects. Most of these prospects also did it in their first & second year, while in and out of being called up through the whole season.

The organizations forward prospects are getting criminally underrated in these boards, it feels like the organization has nothing in terms of forward prospects the way people are talking about them. Yes it lacks a true bluechip prospect which we will get in Stutzle/Byfield, but there is a lot of underrated skill and production in our young forwards. This would be the first season where they will be given a full time chance.

This also doesn't include Tkachuk who's had a back to back 20 goal seasons as an 18/19 year old, and without a true #1 Center. Give him a proper center and he's easily a 30 goal guy, maybe more.
Duclair is a 20+ goal scorer.
Pinto is another guy who had as many goals as Kaliev in the WJC20

Drysdale will have no issue getting his passes finished with Byfield/Tkachuk/Norris/Batherson/Formenton/Duclair/Pinto receiving them.

 

[NyQuil]

Byfield/Stutzle
Tkachuk
Batherson
Duclair
Norris
C. Brown
L. Brown
Tierney
Formenton
White
Balcers
Abramov
Pinto
Chlapik

We have a lot of depth but the highlighted guys have the real top line potential.

The organizations forward prospects are getting criminally underrated in these boards, it feels like the organization has nothing in terms of forward prospects the way people are talking about them. Yes it lacks a true bluechip prospect which we will get in Stutzle/Byfield, but there is a lot of underrated skill and production in our young forwards. This would be the first season where they will be given a full time chance.

I really hope so.

 

[bert]

We have a lot of depth but the highlighted guys have the real top line potential.



I really hope so.

Batherson has top line potential, plus whoever they get with the Islanders first. Duclair scores 30 goals he is a top line winger, Norris and Brown likely have a shot too. Offensive wingers are the easiest commodity to aquire. I think as a group Ottawa plans on being a very physical, big forward group that pounds the opposition, if you have Chabot, Drysdale, Brannstrom and Wolanin pushing the pace from the back end scoring wont be an issue.

 

[NyQuil]

Batherson has top line potential, plus whoever they get with the Islanders first.

I'm very high on Batherson - he had trouble adjusting in his stint in the NHL this season but I still get Stone-lite vibes from him.

Duclair scores 30 goals he is a top line winger

I'm very high on Duclair as well, but it remains to be seen whether he can be a consistent goal scorer. Even if he isn't, I think he has a place on this team, just not perhaps as a 1st line wing.

Norris and Brown likely have a shot too.

Depending on who we draft this year, Brown (Logan?) could be a guy that should be moved while he still has that intriguing upside going for him. Norris exceeded everyone's expectations in the AHL, which is good.

Offensive wingers are the easiest commodity to aquire. I think as a group Ottawa plans on being a very physical, big forward group that pounds the opposition, if you have Chabot, Drysdale, Brannstrom and Wolanin pushing the pace from the back end scoring wont be an issue.

It's certainly not a bad problem to have.

But I do think that players who can actually score goals consistently are in fact the hardest commodity to acquire.

 

[bert]

I'm very high on Batherson - he had trouble adjusting in his stint in the NHL this season but I still get Stone-lite vibes from him.



I'm very high on Duclair as well, but it remains to be seen whether he can be a consistent goal scorer. Even if he isn't, I think he has a place on this team, just not perhaps as a 1st line wing.



Depending on who we draft this year, Brown (Logan?) could be a guy that should be moved while he still has that intriguing upside going for him. Norris exceeded everyone's expectations in the AHL, which is good.



It's certainly not a bad problem to have.

But I do think that players who can actually score goals consistently are in fact the hardest commodity to acquire.

Agreed on Batherson he also had some incredible games this year, specifically against Anaheim he was the best player on the ice. He showed what he is capable of. Big player still adjusting I have very little doubt he is a staple in the sens top 6.

With a real play making centerman I think Duclair scores 30. The way I see the sens forwards shaping out in 3 to 5 years looks like this.

Tkachuk Byfield/Stutzle NYI first
Duclair L. Brown Batherson
Formenton Norris C.Brown
Paul White Pinto

Thats a big heavy group that can score and will score dirty goals while being hard to play against.

Jarvis with the Islanders pick could be very ideal, he played with Byfield at the Hlinka and they looked great together. When you have a forward group that big you can have one super skilled, dynamic, small guy.

D Core

Chabot Bernard-Docker
Wolanin Drysdale
Brannstrom Jaros/Zub/Zaitsev
Thomson

Thats a damn good team.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I am of the opinion you take the top pairing D man over any position other than the top pairing centerman. IE going best player available. Scoring wingers are alot easier to find and they already have alot of forward depth.

Byfield/Stutzle
Tkachuk
Batherson
Duclair
Norris
C. Brown
L. Brown
Tierney
Formenton
White
Balcers
Abramov
Pinto
Chlapik
Plus 5 more picks in the top two rounds.

They only have one top pairing D man and alot of wild cards or bottom pair players. History has told us you need two really good pairs to win anything in todays NHL. Atleast from what I have seen.

Long list but not a long list of "real" top 6 ers. Another thought is it all doesn't have to fall into place this year but we can make strides. If we package this years draft and next years draft we should be set.

Tkachuk
Batherson (benefit of the doubt)
Norris (could.. but a maybe)
L Brown (still needs to prove he has the 2 way game and pace)

Drysdale would be a very good add . No argument from me there. Sanderson would be a nice fit too. Having that 1-2 punch on the left side.
Chabot JBD
Wolanin Drysdale Starts to make a nice top 4. We still need More size and defensive D on the bottom pair imo.
? Zub

or
Chabot Thomson
Sanderson JBD -- could be a strong 2 way pair with shut down ability
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Byfield/Stutzle, Rossi, Norris in your top 3 C slots could be really really good down the middle
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Tkachuk Byfield Batherson
Perfetti Norris Quinn/Mercer would be a bettter than nice 2nd line
or
Amirov Norris Perfetti/Raymond
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Bottom 6ers we have a plenty.. but I'd like to add a power forward
White
C. Brown
Paul
Pinto
Chlapik
Hawryluk

Moving on from Abramov, Balcers, Chlapik, Tierney, Duclair over the next couple of years would not hurt my feelings.

Very generally, the strength of this draft is the forwards; 2021 Draft has some very nice looking D prospects so could take the Rome wasn't built in a day approach even though everyone wants to see results sooner than later.

 

[NyQuil]

Thats a damn good team.

My hope is that we are so solid, top to bottom, that we manage to save some money on the really outrageous contracts while ripping some of those top-heavy teams a new one in the playoffs where competitiveness counts.

 

[NyQuil]

We still need More size and defensive D on the bottom pair imo.

That's where you sign or trade for a playoff experienced former top 4 guy when you're ready to try to win a playoff series or two.

Byfield/Stutzle, Rossi, Norris in your top 3 C slots could be really really good down the middle

Stutzle would be ideal in this situation, because if you can slot in one of your current center prospects in the top six, you can always move him to the wing.

And if you can't, he can play in the middle.

 

[Sensinitis]

Drysdale will be hard to make you happy? The guy would go 2nd or 3rd overall in any other draft. But Raymond or Drysdale are the only people who should be looked at for 5 imho.

I think its going to be LA decides if we get Stutzle or Byfield and Detroit decides if we get Drysdale or Raymond.

Leaving the draft with any combination of Byfield/Stutzle + Raymond or Drysdale is gonna a be insane hual

I like Drysdale but he’s my 3rd choice at #5.

I would rather have Perfetti or Raymond, but if we get Drysdale I’m still a happy camper.

 

[Dingleberry]

Jake Sanderson - North Dakota commit. For sure they have their eyes on him.

 

[operasen]

After one of Stutzle or Byfield, take the preference from Raymond, Rossi, Perfetti. Two impact forwards. Go D at 33 (Barron) or NYI pick (Schneider)

 

[Dingleberry]

Jake Sanderson - North Dakota commit. For sure they have their eyes on him.

Actually checks a lot of boxes for our scouts:

- North Dakota commit
- Second generation player
- Huge riser
- American

 

[NyQuil]

Actually checks a lot of boxes for our scouts:

- North Dakota commit
- Second generation player
- Huge riser
- American

Sanderson seems to be one of these "does everything well" guys that I feel ends up being a bit overrated.

 

[h2]

My preference would be to load up with two elite forward prospects at #3 and #5. If the scouting staff view Drysdale or Sanderson as the actual BPA at #5, I'll be fine with that and our D group would look impressive going forward, but this is a good opportunity to load up on two elite forward prospects which we desperately need more than anything right now.