At the most you get a brief glimpse of a player and you certainly don't get enough views of every player to compare to how gassed they get compared to Michkov during a televised game. Honestly, why do fans do this? I wouldn't believe Tortorella if he told me the sun was coming up tomorrow.
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Danko
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What you're posting isn't just your opinion. Tell me that you're getting enough views of all the players as well as Michkov shift after shift to form the conclusion and the opinion that Michkov looks more gassed than the rest of the players do? You know you aren't and what you're saying is just conjecture and confirmation bias.
Danko
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This is a zero win argument that I don't wish to continue. Although I will leave this here.
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Every player goes through that in a season. Michkov is just trying to fit in with the team and not rock the boat with the lunatic head coach. Normal adjustments for any young player. Michkov is not tired.
Nobody's arguing that there is a lack of high end talent on the roster we're just disagreeing on timelines and how to get it. You want to tank I get that. I disagree.
freakydallas13
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If Michkov is gassed then you sit him a game here and there, not play him every game but only 8 minutes a night.
I think there have been some games where he was not handled correctly but overall, Michkov is 2nd in the league in TOI/GP among all rookie forwards. Second only to Celebrini
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freakydallas13
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How much of that is weighted to earlier in the season when Michkov was actually getting decent playing minutes? Plus, Michkov is a year older than CelebriniI think there have been some games where he was not handled correctly but overall, Michkov is 2nd in the league in TOI/GP among all rookie forwards. Second only to Celebrini
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Beef Invictus
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They have picks. They will have cap space. The rebuild is happening, just not exactly the way you want.
Beef Invictus
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They've always had picks and cap space. When those things are used stupidly by stupid people, then the team goes nowhere. They're affirmed this many, many times for many, many years.
Yes, it won't happen the way I want. 1) because they aren't rebuilding, and 2) because they're going to do stupid things, and I want the team to try doing smart things.
ybnvs
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Reads more to me that Michkov is receiving better coaching off the ice for media responses (this is such a canned, expected response - he is not going to speak out against anything Torts says or coaches) than he is receiving on the ice, considering how much his game has cratered due to a defensive dinosaur coach who has no idea how to use a player like Michkov.
No we wan them to unload the players who aren't useful when the rebuild is complete and not trading players who may be useful. Because who's to say Torts would still be here as coach.
You don't need to be a fortune teller to understand that the same people using the same misguided beliefs will very likely use the same resources in the same way.
So changing all the main management doesn't matter because I guess Clarke isn't dead? That's pretty cynical.
Flyerfan4life
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Beef Invictus
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I don't need to be. All I have to do is look at what they're doing. It has one outcome: mediocrity as the utmost ceiling
Gert B Frobe
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And quite a bit like Larry from the Bob Newhart Show. This is my brother Daryl and this is my other brother Daryl.
ybnvs
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The nepotistic corruption within this organization which all stems from one central location, Bobby Clarke, is f***ing sickening.
@DancingPanther a couple years ago made a beautiful flow chart which very clearly and concisely depicts the disgusting truth of it all. It's nicely color coded and everything. I wanted to reproduce it for you the other day but have had trouble finding it through the Search function (I shouldn't be struggling this hard finding it
). Maybe someone else can help since I'm having such an issue with it?To be devil's advocate, I believe strongly that we got Michkov early because of Clarke. He is a good friend of Tretiak and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they made it happen behind the scenes possibly even breaking "rules". But regardless, I don't think Clarke does anything day to day now.The nepotistic corruption within this organization which all stems from one central location, Bobby Clarke, is f***ing sickening.
@DancingPanther a couple years ago made a beautiful flow chart which very clearly and concisely depicts the disgusting truth of it all. It's nicely color coded and everything. I wanted to reproduce it for you the other day but have had trouble finding it through the Search function (I shouldn't be struggling this hard finding it
It's a funny thing though and based on winning. Flyers have been losing so any ex Flyer hired is seen negatively and as nepotism. By contrast Bruins fans very excited that they hired Chara as an advisor and many want Bergeron hired too. That sort of move, praised there, would be seen as horrible nepotism here wouldn't it? Just something to consider.
Beef Invictus
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The nepotistic corruption within this organization which all stems from one central location, Bobby Clarke, is f***ing sickening.
@DancingPanther a couple years ago made a beautiful flow chart which very clearly and concisely depicts the disgusting truth of it all. It's nicely color coded and everything. I wanted to reproduce it for you the other day but have had trouble finding it through the Search function (I shouldn't be struggling this hard finding it
OFFICIAL, albeit incomplete. There is no way to fully encapsulate the extent of this cancer, and it deserves to be known by all. Big props to Hanrahan who, from what I could gather, basically worked his way up. Good job. Note the 2 former NHLers who played both on the Flyers and Wild lol
Just the tip of the horseshit iceberg in what is becoming the NHL's biggest joke of a franchise. This is the result of salary cap implementation, where value can't be bought in FA but must be pried out of the margins. In other words, you have to be smart. These...
Just the tip of the horseshit iceberg in what is becoming the NHL's biggest joke of a franchise. This is the result of salary cap implementation, where value can't be bought in FA but must be pried out of the margins. In other words, you have to be smart. These...
It's actually gotten worse since then with the additions of mega-buddies and cronies Jones, Briere, and Murray. Oh right, and LeClair and Sharp. Everything must connect to Clarke within one degree.
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