GDT: #54 | Flyers at Avalanche | Sunday, February 2, 2025 | 3:00 PM | NBCSP+

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It's not a perception. Watch the games. I dont know what to tell ya. You don't see other young players on the team reacting the same way as he does. I'm also not dismissing that he has been misused and they are limiting his time...Torts admitted this. I get it, i get the flaws of the organization...I've been vocal about it as well, however its not some conspiracy that the guy who is bent over with a red face huffing and puffing after a shift is clearly tired. They've played lots of back to backs.
At the most you get a brief glimpse of a player and you certainly don't get enough views of every player to compare to how gassed they get compared to Michkov during a televised game. Honestly, why do fans do this? I wouldn't believe Tortorella if he told me the sun was coming up tomorrow.
 
At the most you get a brief glimpse of a player and you certainly don't get enough views of every player to compare to how gassed they get compared to Michkov during a televised game. Honestly, why do fans do this? I wouldn't believe Tortorella if he told me the sun was coming up tomorrow.
 

What you're posting isn't just your opinion. Tell me that you're getting enough views of all the players as well as Michkov shift after shift to form the conclusion and the opinion that Michkov looks more gassed than the rest of the players do? You know you aren't and what you're saying is just conjecture and confirmation bias.
 
What you're posting isn't just your opinion. Tell me that you're getting enough views of all the players as well as Michkov shift after shift to form the conclusion and the opinion that Michkov looks more gassed than the rest of the players do? You know you aren't and what you're saying is just conjecture and confirmation bias.

This is a zero win argument that I don't wish to continue. Although I will leave this here.

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Most Dmen are fully known commodities by the time they are 23. "Dmen take longer" is a myth.

There is more to offense than the act of shooting. A thing the Flyers do not understand, and a reason their obsession with shoot-first players like Tippett has never paid off.

I ask again. If offense is easier than defense, why don't the Flyers just score? They're already doing the hard thing. Why not do the easier thing too?
Nobody's arguing that there is a lack of high end talent on the roster we're just disagreeing on timelines and how to get it. You want to tank I get that. I disagree.
 
If Michkov is gassed then you sit him a game here and there, not play him every game but only 8 minutes a night.
I think there have been some games where he was not handled correctly but overall, Michkov is 2nd in the league in TOI/GP among all rookie forwards. Second only to Celebrini

 
I think there have been some games where he was not handled correctly but overall, Michkov is 2nd in the league in TOI/GP among all rookie forwards. Second only to Celebrini

How much of that is weighted to earlier in the season when Michkov was actually getting decent playing minutes? Plus, Michkov is a year older than Celebrini
 
They have picks. They will have cap space. The rebuild is happening, just not exactly the way you want.

They've always had picks and cap space. When those things are used stupidly by stupid people, then the team goes nowhere. They're affirmed this many, many times for many, many years.

Yes, it won't happen the way I want. 1) because they aren't rebuilding, and 2) because they're going to do stupid things, and I want the team to try doing smart things.
 
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This is a zero win argument that I don't wish to continue. Although I will leave this here.

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Reads more to me that Michkov is receiving better coaching off the ice for media responses (this is such a canned, expected response - he is not going to speak out against anything Torts says or coaches) than he is receiving on the ice, considering how much his game has cratered due to a defensive dinosaur coach who has no idea how to use a player like Michkov.
 
Nobody's arguing that there is a lack of high end talent on the roster we're just disagreeing on timelines and how to get it. You want to tank I get that. I disagree.
No we wan them to unload the players who aren't useful when the rebuild is complete and not trading players who may be useful. Because who's to say Torts would still be here as coach.
 

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