Prospect Info: #52 Dmitri Buchelnikov, 2022 Draft

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my understanding is that it's usually a buyout of some sort that the "player" pays to the team. I assume what usually happens is the player gets a loan from his agent or someone.

I wouldn't be shocked if the Wings do essentially gift him a spot next year, though. At least if he maintains his pace in Russia this season. Right now we could slot him into Kane's spot and not miss a thing.
I am not sure if it still works the same but in the past players could buy themselves out of contracts.

Would be great and exciting to see him come over but I also am with others who thinks he'll finish out his KHL contract.
 

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I don't think Buch spends much if any time in the AHL. The only outside chance would be if they thought politically that he wouldn't be able to get over after his current KHL contract was up in 2026. If he is over next year I fully expect him to be in the NHL.

He has already come over once, which shows his eagerness to grow and learn additional training techniques so I don't anticipate having to wait longer than his current contract for him.

I was going to say maybe they could work in an easy to hit rookie bonus based on GP, but at least according to Puckpedia those bonuses are standardized across the league and not are based solely on games played.
 
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Soderblom sucks. He's never making the NHL. The rest I agree with, and I'd give a darkhorse shot to another defensemen like Toumisto or Buium.

Buchelnikov I can't tell enough people. He's never going to play a game in the AHL/ECHL.(outside of conditioning) He'll play in Russia and legitimately make more money. You'd do the same exact thing if you were Russian. You'd do it now as an American. (Play in Russia for double, or more)

I just can't understand why people think Buch would want come play hockey for less money which is what you are asking him to do when you send him or any Russian in the AHL, it's why there's like NONE if you look around the AHL.

yeah if the Wings insist on Buchelnikov playing in the AHL first he'll never play here and will either stay in Russia forever or at least until some other team without as much stubbornness ends up with his rights

i'm hopeful that with the season he's been having the Wings won't be that stubborn about it though
 

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We have seen a bunch of teams be able to get these guys over before their KHL deals are up.
But we have also seen player arrested and forced to go in Navy, when he was trying cross the pond.
Makes sense?
What? Signing Barach? Not really, all other AHL vets Snively, Dries, Watson, Lagesson, Campbell, they got NHL games under their belt. Meaning that they can handle a call up if it's necessary. But if GR signs Barach, then fine whatever but i don't think he would add much. Some other player is also capable enough to help Buchelnikov.
 

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yeah if the Wings insist on Buchelnikov playing in the AHL first he'll never play here and will either stay in Russia forever or at least until some other team without as much stubbornness ends up with his rights

i'm hopeful that with the season he's been having the Wings won't be that stubborn about it though
i'm pretty sure we hold his right indefinitely
 
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Are we just stat-watching? Any highlights?
I have KHL with Katrina tv and watch him sometimes when not so busy. He is fun to watch, try to be defensively responsible, very creative and fast. Most importantly he is getting better every year, progressing in the right direction.
Kasper, not Danielson would be perfect linemate for him
 

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Vitjaz Podolsk: 5.8 million dollars for entire team, not much individually. Pretty sure Buchelnikov is not the highest paid player in the team

His current 2-year KHL deal is for approximately $366,000 USD total. However it's the rough equivalent of making $700,000 in the NHL/AHL if the discrepancy in tax rates is figured in.
It's a pittance by NHL standards, but a gold mine compared to the AHL.
 
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But we have also seen player arrested and forced to go in Navy, when he was trying cross the pond.

The Fedotov ordeal was an outlier situation, and far more nuanced than attention grabbing headlines like "Player forced into the Navy for signing NHL contract!"

As such, Buchelnikov will go to Detroit. I don't think he'd be adverse to spending some time in the AHL either. A lot of guys have KHL re-assignment clauses nowadays. If a player is still in the AHL by a certain date, he has the option to be loaned back to the KHL for the remainder of the year.
 

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EP lists 25 Russian skaters who've played double digit games in the AHL this year, most of them under 23yo. Between AHL salary, signing bonus, NHL pay for 21 games last season, first-rounder Miroschnichenko may have made around $400K his first year in NA. He has so far split time this year AHL/NHL. Whatever money he may have lost by coming over to play mostly in AHL for a year will soon be recouped if it hasn't already. And bus travel for pro hockey teams isn't uncomfortable, in many cases preferable to commercial air travel. If Buchnevich wants to come, he'll be here ASAP even without a roster guarantee. If he wants to wait, that's fine too.
 
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His current 2-year KHL deal is for approximately $366,000 USD total. However it's the rough equivalent of making $700,000 in the NHL/AHL if the discrepancy in tax rates is figured in.
It's a pittance by NHL standards, but a gold mine compared to the AHL.
Important to remember on most European teams your living arrangements are also heavily covered. So he doesn’t pay for his apartment, car, in some cases meals are expensed. It is a lot more complete and basically fully take home on the salary.
 
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Important to remember on most European teams your living arrangements are also heavily covered. So he doesn’t pay for his apartment, car, in some cases meals are expensed. It is a lot more complete and basically fully take home on the salary.

Those costs are probably a wash for the extra money he'd get playing in the NHL.
 

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Those costs are probably a wash for the extra money he'd get playing in the NHL.
But they are not a wash if he is spending prolonged time in the AHL is the bigger point of the discussion.

I don't think he comes until he is going to be on the NHL team. With the way he is performing in the second best league in the world I am not sure why he would either to be perfectly honest. We should be eager to get him out of his contract and into our top 9 next year.
 

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But they are not a wash if he is spending prolonged time in the AHL is the bigger point of the discussion.

I don't think he comes until he is going to be on the NHL team. With the way he is performing in the second best league in the world I am not sure why he would either to be perfectly honest. We should be eager to get him out of his contract and into our top 9 next year.

Well yeah, the AHL, definitely not. But in the NHL on ELC dough, it's about a wash.
 

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