50 goal seasons for Bedard?

[Juxta Position]

I said 10-14. He has a Matthews calibre shot.

by that rational he should have 1 by his 7th season....

 

[EverTheCynic]

15+. Consecutively.

 

[authentic]

I would let him get one first before we ask how many but I think he could possibly do it in his first season if not his sophomore year

 

[ricky0034]

Matthews is more likely to finish with 1-4 50+ goal seasons than he is to finish with 10-14 of them.

hell i'd say Matthews is more likely to finish with 0 50+ goal seasons than 10-14 of them

 

[McFlash97]

I think Bedard has the ability to get at least 2 60+ goal seasons and hit 50 at least 5 times minimum.

~ 8 - 100 + point seasons
~ 3 times over 120.

Yes generational expectations

Takes over from McDavid in about 5 or so seasons, unless McDavid decides to cruise through regular seasons in order to Amp it up for post seasons.


McDavid will do it , Bedard should at least follow right behind.

 

[CloutierForVezina]

Not enough is being made of this.

Sans Bedard, every other top six forward would be 3rd and 4th liners on other teams.

Must be one of the worst rosters in recent memory

You ever look at the 05-06 Capitals roster?

 

[EastVillageBlues]

I think Bedard has the ability to get at least 2 60+ goal seasons and hit 50 at least 5 times minimum.

~ 8 - 100 + point seasons
~ 3 times over 120.

Yes generational expectations

Takes over from McDavid in about 5 or so seasons, unless McDavid decides to cruise through regular seasons in order to Amp it up for post seasons.


McDavid will do it , Bedard should at least follow right behind.

I would expect a quite bit more, if he is indeed to fulfill his "generational" potential, as you put it.

Those numbers are for the ilk of players likes of McTavish, Beniers, Cooley, Fantilli, etc. Basically your average top 10 forwards in the NHL at any one time. Not the numbers you would expect out of a generational talent given today's higher scoring rates. Heck, even Hughs might end up with a step above those numbers.

You ever look at the 05-06 Capitals roster?

Those Caps were pretty bad.

Not nearly as atrocious as the Hawks are right now though.

 

[McFlash97]

I would expect a quite bit more, if he is indeed to fulfill his "generational" potential, as you put it.

Those numbers are for the ilk of players likes of McTavish, Beniers, Cooley, Fantilli, etc. Basically your average top 10 forwards in the NHL at any one time. Not the numbers you would expect out of a generational talent given today's higher scoring rates. Heck, even Hughs might end up with a step above those numbers.



Those Caps were pretty bad.

Not nearly as atrocious as the Hawks are right now though.

Wait wait

So Hughes will have 8 plus 100 poont seasons and multiple 60 goal seasons ? 3 times over 120 ?

Less than 5 players in history cam boast all these numbers together.

Lol @ Hughes and a few 90 point max draftees to be even put in the same sentence

 

[Regal]

I would expect a quite bit more, if he is indeed to fulfill his "generational" potential, as you put it.

Those numbers are for the ilk of players likes of McTavish, Beniers, Cooley, Fantilli, etc. Basically your average top 10 forwards in the NHL at any one time. Not the numbers you would expect out of a generational talent given today's higher scoring rates. Heck, even Hughs might end up with a step above those numbers.



Those Caps were pretty bad.

Not nearly as atrocious as the Hawks are right now though.

I don’t think you’re realizing how rare those numbers are.

Crosby has 6 100-point seasons, 1 120-point season, and 1 50-goal season.

Jagr has 5 100-point seasons, 4 120-point seasons, 3 50-goal seasons and 1 60-goal season.

Gretzky, Lemieux and Dionne are currently the only players with 8 or more 100 point seasons.

 

[Skolman]

The amount of votes for 15+, my goodness

 

[Frank Drebin]

I would expect a quite bit more, if he is indeed to fulfill his "generational" potential, as you put it.

Those numbers are for the ilk of players likes of McTavish, Beniers, Cooley, Fantilli, etc. Basically your average top 10 forwards in the NHL at any one time. Not the numbers you would expect out of a generational talent given today's higher scoring rates. Heck, even Hughs might end up with a step above those numbers.



Those Caps were pretty bad.

Not nearly as atrocious as the Hawks are right now though.

Mason McTavish will score 100 points 8 times in his career? LMAO come back down to earth with the rest of us.

 

[sansabri]

prob 10 if the league keeps expanding

 

[Despote]

I would expect a quite bit more, if he is indeed to fulfill his "generational" potential, as you put it.

Those numbers are for the ilk of players likes of McTavish, Beniers, Cooley, Fantilli, etc. Basically your average top 10 forwards in the NHL at any one time. Not the numbers you would expect out of a generational talent given today's higher scoring rates. Heck, even Hughs might end up with a step above those numbers.

Even in the current high scoring environment, scoring 100 points is still a ~top 10 scoring finish.

For reference, the following players have finished this many times top 10 in NHL scoring:
Malkin 4
Bure 4
Forsberg 5
Stamkos 6
Yzerman 6
Kane 7
Selänne 7
Ovechkin 8
Sakic 10
Crosby 12


And that's not accounting for shortened seasons either, which will likely continue to happen in the future. Even if scoring stays high, anybody scoring eight 100 point seasons is 100% a first ballot HoFer and likely considered an all-time great. Three 120+ point seasons and two 60+ goal seasons also means several seasons at MVP/Art Ross contending level. Even in the low end of that projection (121 points, 61 goals, exactly 100 points in every other 100 point season), that guy surely goes down as a top 3 forward of his own era at minimum, at least based on completed regular season accomplishments.

 

[authentic]

Even in the current high scoring environment, scoring 100 points is still a ~top 10 scoring finish.

For reference, the following players have finished this many times top 10 in NHL scoring:
Malkin 4
Bure 4
Forsberg 5
Stamkos 6
Yzerman 6
Kane 7
Selänne 7
Ovechkin 8
Sakic 10
Crosby 12


And that's not accounting for shortened seasons either, which will likely continue to happen in the future. Even if scoring stays high, anybody scoring eight 100 point seasons is 100% a first ballot HoFer and likely considered an all-time great. Three 120+ point seasons and two 60+ goal seasons also means several seasons at MVP/Art Ross contending level. Even in the low end of that projection (121 points, 61 goals, exactly 100 points in every other 100 point season), that guy surely goes down as a top 3 forward of his own era at minimum, at least based on completed regular season accomplishments.

Crazy how Crosby has 12 top 10 finishes with all the injuries he had. How many did Jagr have?

 

[Regal]

Crazy how Crosby has 12 top 10 finishes with all the injuries he had. How many did Jagr have?

11

 

[Samsquanch]

Too much is made of his stature. Legit measured at 5’9.75, 185 pounds. If he has problems they won’t be build-related.

This. So many people I talk hockey with irl are hyper focused on his size.

But he's legitimately a very stocky dude, and has a noticeable amount of power in his game. He's basically a carbon copy of Crosby, and plays with that same edge. He's gonna be more than fine.

To me if anything it's his skating that will hold him back from being McDavid level dominant though. He's a fantastic skater don't get me wrong. But it's more like an A instead of an A++.

Also i wouldn't be surprised if he morphs into less of a pure goal scorer when he hits the NHL, sort of how like Tavares became more balanced.

 

[bobbyking]

how the hell would 40 g be a rookie disappointment

 

[Artorius Horus T]

You people are nuts with your predictions and expectations for Connor Bedard.
- although voters not so much, 2nd most voters voted for 1st option; none

If he scores more than 25 goals and 60 points in his rookie season,
i'm happily surprised. - continues to build on that over the years,
50 goals could be possible, but i'd put the 40 goal mark as the first mark for him.
- like someone said, it took Matthews 7 years to get 50 goals

its super hard for 18 year old player to score from the get go.
its even more so when you are 5 foot 9 ½ center.

Time will tell what will happen.

how the hell would 40 g be a rookie disappointment

40 goal rookie season from an 18 year old would be nuts, historically insane good
i just don't see that happening.

 

[Matsun]

We are in a high scoring era with scoring just going up. This should help a talent like Bedard hit 50 even when developing. Then when/if scoring levels drops he will be in his prime and should be scoring 50 anyways. He is entering the league at the best possible time for scoring many many goals.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

You people are nuts with your predictions and expectations for Connor Bedard.
- although voters not so much, 2nd most voters voted for 1st option; none

If he scores more than 25 goals and 60 points in his rookie season,
i'm happily surprised. - continues to build on that over the years,
50 goals could be possible, but i'd put the 40 goal mark as the first mark for him.
- like someone said, it took Matthews 7 years to get 50 goals

its super hard for 18 year old player to score from the get go.
its even more so when you are 5 foot 9 ½ center.

Time will tell what will happen.



40 goal rookie season from an 18 year old would be nuts, historically insane good
i just don't see that happening.

Crosby had 39 at 18 and bedard is a much better shooter

 

[CanadienShark]

At least 3. I'm just sad that I won't be happy to see him do it.

 

[authentic]

You people are nuts with your predictions and expectations for Connor Bedard.
- although voters not so much, 2nd most voters voted for 1st option; none

If he scores more than 25 goals and 60 points in his rookie season,
i'm happily surprised. - continues to build on that over the years,
50 goals could be possible, but i'd put the 40 goal mark as the first mark for him.
- like someone said, it took Matthews 7 years to get 50 goals

its super hard for 18 year old player to score from the get go.
its even more so when you are 5 foot 9 ½ center.

Time will tell what will happen.



40 goal rookie season from an 18 year old would be nuts, historically insane good
i just don't see that happening.

Lol, something tells me you'll be happily surprised

 

[McFlash97]

Blackhawk fans voting 15 + are going to be so dissappointed

Yes Bedard will break all goal scoring records and get 15+ - 50 plus goal seasons.

Who votes for Stuff like this lol

Bedard hits at Least 5- 50 plus goal seasons. Generational indeed.

His lack of size will limited him to about 3-4 Art Ross trophies instead of 6+, nonetheless it will be an impressive showing.

 

[Bounces R Way]

more than McDavid fer sure

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Did people forgot McDavid when posting?

How is Bedard gonna win anything while McDavid is still playing? art ross? 0 to none chance him winning that over CMD

McDavid is going to win or contend to win art ross for the next 10 years.

Also, other possible players might be coming. (i have 1 in mind, who i think is way better what Bedard is, as a prospect)