Value of: 4th overall pick (Utah)

[Mosby]

I suspect Utah will make the pick at 4, but curious what opposing teams would offer up for this pick.

Utah's biggest need is a young 20s second-line center.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Tailor made for a trade up with Philly (#6). They have 2 later 1sts and 4 2nds. If Briere wants a guy I can see him trying

 

[cslebn]

Utah needs players not picks

 

[Killer Orca]

I suspect Utah will make the pick at 4, but curious what opposing teams would offer up for this pick.

Utah's biggest need is a young 20s second-line center.

Everyone in the league is looking for that better to just draft one at 4.

 

[miscs75]

Habs fans have been asking for this in the 525600 threads they’ve made the past 2 months with the same answer of not happening each time.

 

[AKL]

Rossi is now on the table for you

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Everyone in the league is looking for that better to just draft one at 4.

Almost everyone. 1 team is probably going to give one away.

 

[AKL]

Almost everyone. 1 team is probably going to give one away.

Boy I sure hope it's not my team

 

[SjMilhouse]

Bring me your young, win now forwards. Utah isn't interested in futures

 

[MrLunatik]

I suspect Utah will make the pick at 4, but curious what opposing teams would offer up for this pick.

Utah's biggest need is a young 20s second-line center.

Hagens might be there @ 4

 

[Mosby]

Rossi is now on the table for you

Knew you'd come around

 

[Kevin Musto]

Utah's biggest need is a young 20s second-line center.

nobody is trading that for 4th overall in this year's draft

 

[seabass45]

Isles might be open for business depending on if a certain player is available at 4.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

IMO they should just draft Frondell / Hagens / Desnoyers, whichever they see being the best possible 2nd line center for them long-term. Cooley Hayton McBain Stenlund for now and then Cooley Frondell Hayton McBain in one or two years.

I understand that Utah wants to compete now instead of stockpiling prospects, but they aren't exactly a real contender at this point. Waiting one or possibly two years to get their young 2nd line center into the lineup isn't an unreasonable time to wait for a team in their current position.

If there's a guy out there like Will Smith or Tij Iginla or Shane Wright available, you can maybe look at a trade like that... IF you think the guy is equal with Frondell Hagens Desnoyers etc.

 

[n8]

I could see the Rangers wanting to use their #12 to trade up but they also don't have any young centers that are really NHL ready. Does this mean Utah wants to move Hayton to wing?

 

[Mackiaveli]

but curious what opposing teams would offer up for this pick.

Can't help but feel like something around Horvat + Dobson for 4OA + something makes a lot of sense for both sides.

Utah gets considerably better right now - Islanders get Hagens and Schaefer.

 

[Jormungandr]

IMO they should just draft Frondell / Hagens / Desnoyers, whichever they see being the best possible 2nd line center for them long-term. Cooley Hayton McBain Stenlund for now and then Cooley Frondell Hayton McBain in one or two years.

I understand that Utah wants to compete now instead of stockpiling prospects, but they aren't exactly a real contender at this point. Waiting one or possibly two years to get their young 2nd line center into the lineup isn't an unreasonable time to wait for a team in their current position.

If there's a guy out there like Will Smith or Tij Iginla or Shane Wright available, you can maybe look at a trade like that... IF you think the guy is equal with Frondell Hagens Desnoyers etc.

Utah already has Tij Iginla. And he projects more as a winger.

 

[boredmale]

If Hagen's is still on the board at 4, I might be willing to trade Dobson from the Islanders

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Hagens might be there @ 4

Even if not, Hayton is serviceable. Just draft BPA (probably Martone) and call it a day

 

[matt trick]

In terms of a long-term solution at 2C, I think they're better off being patient for Desnoyers, Frondell, or Hagens, then grabbing best youngish center available.

4th overall is likely the best chip a team wanting a 2C will have available, but teams don't move those guys. The best youngish C potentially to be available is probably Zegras or Petterson. Given Utah is just reaching the beginning of their contention window, I'd take your number 2 (if Martone goes top 4) or 3 rated C in a strong center draft and call it a day.

Butt and Iginla would offer plenty of scoring, grit, and beef on Hagens' wings. That would give them two smallish top 6 centers in size, but Cooley doesn't play small, and McBain is big in the 3C spot.

 

[icelander25]

For Utah I feel like trading the pick for current young players could be a great move and get them in the playoffs next year. What about something like Dobson + 2026 Col 1st + Danny Nelson for 4 OVR + Maverick Lamoureux + Roster player to match salary. Isles get a decent chance at Hagens while also getting a young RHD to replace Dobson. Utah gets a bonafide young RHD to pair with Sergachev plus a first you could trade or keep later. Nelson also has good potential but is most likely a 3C.

 

[absolute garbage]

If Islanders decide to try to get McKenna+Dupont and go full tank, a trade around Horvat or Barzal could make sense.

But then again it's difficult to trade a 4th overall pick.

 

[Djp]

I suspect Utah will make the pick at 4, but curious what opposing teams would offer up for this pick.

Utah's biggest need is a young 20s second-line center.

You aren't going to get one. You need to draft one

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Hans fans have been asking for this in the 525600 threads they’ve made the past 2 months with the same answer of not happening each time.

Granted, they’re not offering a #4 draft pick. They want everyone to take a mid first and mailoux.

 

[Rorschach]

If LA decides to move on from Byfield, they could trade him in a package based around another package based around the 4th OA, at the draft, depending on if someone falls down the board or there's a core player (pure center or top pair D) to rebuild around.