GDT: #45 - 01/16/18 | flyers @ rangers | 7:00 - MSG, NBCSN

[will1066]

How long is Hayes out? Sorry. The Hayes offensive breakout thread doesn't discuss it.

 

[Irishguy42]

How long is Hayes out? Sorry. The Hayes offensive breakout thread doesn't discuss it.

No official timeline given, as far as I've seen.

 

[aufheben]

They do. One year of missing the playoffs could really light a fire under their ass. Also, even a .0000001% chance of getting Dahlin has me excited.

I think it'd be 2.7% if it was today. lol I just did a sim and the Rangers won on the first try.

The NHL tweaked the draft too much, bad teams get shafted under this system.

 

[NickyFotiu]

How long is Hayes out? Sorry. The Hayes offensive breakout thread doesn't discuss it.

Does he have a hip injury?

 

[will1066]

I just thought of Papa John's, and business must be pretty bad.

 

[will1066]

Does he have a hip injury?

Wasn't it a contusion or something of that sort?

 

[Thirty One]

I think it'd be 2.7% if it was today. lol I just did a sim and the Rangers won on the first try.

The NHL tweaked the draft too much, bad teams get shafted under this system.

Maybe they should consider being good instead.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Wasn't it a contusion or something of that sort?

I hope its not a hip contusion. I once skated near full speed in to the boards but the player bench wasnt locked so I caught my hip on the corner of it when the door swung open. That injury was scary because bad things can happen with hip bruises.

 

[Irishguy42]

Wasn't it a contusion or something of that sort?

That was the original announcement, yes.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I think it'd be 2.7% if it was today. lol I just did a sim and the Rangers won on the first try.

The NHL tweaked the draft too much, bad teams get shafted under this system.

Even more reason to not completely tank.

It's not like the NFL where last place guarantees you the top pick, or even like the NHL a few years ago when last place gave you overwhelming odds to get the pick. Now it's just slightly better, but still, an 18% chance of getting the doesn't seem as worth it as when it was 25% or higher.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I think it'd be 2.7% if it was today. lol I just did a sim and the Rangers won on the first try.

The NHL tweaked the draft too much, bad teams get shafted under this system.

If we can benefit just this one time... that would be great.

 

[aufheben]

If we can benefit just this one time... that would be great.

For some reason I can really picture Dahlin as a Canuck.

 

[will1066]

For some reason I can really picture Dahlin as a Canuck.

Dahlin and Boesser. Give them the Cup!

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I must say that I’m curious about how long they can actually keep playing as bad as they have these last couple of games.

They will play good for a bit too.

The AVS on the other hand have limitless growth, and although they were a laughing sock and needed to trade a main player during a game, after a win streak they have exponential growth. I don't expect the AVS to lose more than 3 games ever given the recent record of 100%.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I'm a never say quit guy. I literally hate to quit. Put a brick wall in front of me and I will try to go through it but last game I quit watching in the 3rd period. I just hate watching when the team seems so disenchanted. We need 5 guys going in the same direction. Right now we have 2-3 playing against 5 too often.

Ha!

I knew you didn't care.

You've just been faking it for like 40 something years.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Even if we don't get Dahlin, it's an opportunity to add another talented youngster or two to the future core. Barzal was a 16th overall pick and he's better than any of our forwards.

We will land shit unless we drop to the bottom.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

For some reason I can really picture Dahlin as a Canuck.

Following in the shadow of Jryki Lumme is no small task, and perhaps, it's a fool's journey.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

We will land **** unless we drop to the bottom.

Hate leaving a convo unfinished from the previous thread. All I was going to say is the last points you raised I actually agree with but they're different from the original idea of yours that I was replying to which was the idea that AV did not have any Torts guys/players on his team.

My response to that first idea was that Av inherited a significant chunk of the same roster that Torts took to the ECF, except imo AV's version had significantly more talent and experience.

But Torts needed to go, he was just as bad as AV imo. Just with different issues making him bad. If people want to crap on AV, I'm usually the first one there, but when they want to go all revisionist about Torts to bolster their argument then I don't agree.

Anyway I mostly agreed with your last post in that convo.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Hate leaving a convo unfinished from the previous thread. All I was going to say is the last points you raised I actually agree with but they're different from the original idea of yours that I was replying to which was the idea that AV did not have any Torts guys/players on his team.

My response to that first idea was that Av inherited a significant chunk of the same roster that Torts took to the ECF, except imo AV's version had significantly more talent and experience.

But Torts needed to go, he was just as bad as AV imo. Just with different issues making him bad. If people want to crap on AV, I'm usually the first one there, but when they want to go all revisionist about Torts to bolster their argument then I don't agree.

Anyway I mostly agreed with your last post in that convo.

I understood your point too.

When I'm saying AV won't fix the issue, I'm generally talking to a less level headed mass of individuals [i.e not you] who want the change so bad because they think it will fix things it won't fix and they believe it will be rapid change for success.

I think AV should be moved at the end of the season or if we nose dive because he was brought here for end game and this is a mid game at best roster.

A lot of the clamoring for the change are people think we area coach away from a return to end game because our roster has great "expected..."

It doesn't have expected. This is what it is.

 

[GlasgowNewYorkRanger]

Even if we had the first pick there's no guarantee this stupid franchise would pick him. They'd go for the "off" pick again and select the next Hugh Jessiman. I apologize.....I still can't get over the '03 draft.

If we miss the Play-Offs and somehow miraculously end up with the first overall pick, you have now planted a horrible, horrible seed in my mind. We aren't that stupid now, are we?

 

[nyrleetch]

Going to set the O/U at 40 shots.

I'll say Flyers get 44.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Even more reason to not completely tank.

It's not like the NFL where last place guarantees you the top pick, or even like the NHL a few years ago when last place gave you overwhelming odds to get the pick. Now it's just slightly better, but still, an 18% chance of getting the doesn't seem as worth it as when it was 25% or higher.

I don't think the Rangers have to tank to have a shot.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Going to set the O/U at 40 shots.

I'll say Flyers get 44.

Are the Flyers a high shooting team?

The Penguins are.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I don't think the Rangers have to tank to have a shot.

Why?

 

[DanielBrassard]

Why?

Because we are a bad team, especially without Kreider.