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GDT: - #42 | Ducks at Flyers | Saturday, January 11, 2025 | 7:00 PM | NBCSP, 97.5 FM | Page 14 | HFBoards - NHL Message Board and Forum for National Hockey League
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GDT: #42 | Ducks at Flyers | Saturday, January 11, 2025 | 7:00 PM | NBCSP, 97.5 FM

Cutter was a very good prospect. That holds. He was named the WJC best forward a year ago and followed with a national championship at BC while putting up 38 goals and 27 assists in 41 games as a sophomore.

I still think he'll end up a 30-goal scorer in the NHL. But man, no one ever said he was without flaws, and tonight he was embarrassingly soft.
 
Ghosts Beer said:
That was the most entertaining Flyers game I’ve seen in a long time.

The entire game was physical.

They ran Cutter the whole game.

They scored 6 goals & gave up 0.

Michkov had a goal. TK had 4 primary assists.

The crowd was absolutely electric & into it & chanting & booing all game. Loud as hell. Having a blast. A playoff atmosphere.

Everyone got their money’s worth & more.

And we have posters finding reasons to complain about it.
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Do you just come to this board only after Flyers wins or something?

deadhead said:
Fletcher is gone, that high a pick had to be Fletcher, GMs in any sport call the shots on high picks. Because if you blow these picks, you're not going to be a GM for very long.
Unless of course you're Howie and find Hurts in the 3rd and dump Wentz for a 1st.

It was a weak draft, but I understand the seduction, Gauthier is a "talent" pick, on paper he has the skill package to be elite, size, speed, shot, can puck handle and pass - but I was told "intangibles" don't matter compared to talent. He's a good example of someone who excelled at lower levels but has to learn how to play in the NHL - but I don't see the compete needed. He lacks the skill of Jake, who could get away with being a big "finesse" forward. You'd think in a game like this pride would have driven him to show the fans how their FO screwed up - instead he was a nothing burger.

Now maybe he'll grow up, or the right HC can get through to him how to play NHL hockey.
Of course, you can say the same about Drysdale, maybe Shaw can get him to continue to improve and become more fundamentally sound on defense and more confident driving play on offense.

Maybe.
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Oh? Fletcher made that decision? Are you sure it wasn't Holmgren?
 
deadhead said:
People really need to listen to his pressers instead of relying on preconceived opinions.
I've been surprised how calm, patient and reasonable Torts has been all season, given some of the idiots in the Philly press crew.
He's embraced rebuilding and accepts the growing pains that come with in.
Maybe it's just age teaching him patience.
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What about the presser last year when he said he's not here to develop players, he's here to get wins. Should we also listen to that presser?

Torts handled the Gauthier situation well. Leave it at that. Your obsession to die on the cross for him in any scenario is a weird take.
 
Beef Invictus said:
The Flyers crusade against a young player because they screwed up is impossible cringey
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And the fans just slurp up the propaganda. This org is so f***ing arrogant lol

Embarrassing on all levels. Embarrassing that they can't develop players (to the point one finally got fed up which is his prerogative!), embarrassing that they run the machine against him, and embarrassing the fans act this way instead of seeing the actual issue, which is this org is literal trash
 
Juicy Pop said:
Counterpoint, maybe he has every right to be put off by the org. We're not exactly a key destination despite the natural prestige of the location and the recent glamour that we should be seeing from the Phillies/Eagles rise in popularity.

Maybe it's just very visible that this organization is inherently toxic from the outset for some people?

I wouldn't doubt it.
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We aren’t a destination because we never have cap space lmao.

I’m jc - what do you think of TK resigning, Sanheim staying, Tippett? Scott Laughton literally begged Danny to stay last year.
 
I won't sit here and pretend I didn't enjoy the game, or the Cutter stuff (well, not the NBCSN peanut gallery, but the booing and stuff) last night. I went from thinking it was sort of dumb to laughing my ass off every time he stepped on the ice.

That said, my outlook on the team, both for this season and beyond, hasn't changed a bit, and I still don't see myself regularly tuning in the rest of the season.
 
Opus said:
Missed the game, lovely outcome - love to see it

I guess some of you Negative Nancy's didn't have much to vent about last night
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They didn't run Gauthier all game, there were no dirty hits on him.

They hit him every time he had the puck b/c that's what they're taught to do on the forecheck, and they separated him from the puck a few times.

Gauthier has raw talent, of course, so does Drysdale.
What became obvious watching this game is both players are gambles that they'll ever turn that raw talent into superior production.

Gauthier should eventually learn to be more aggressive and turn his shot into goals, but I don't think I'd trade Foerster straight up for him, even though Gauthier has more raw talent.

And Drysdale is improving under Shaw's tutalege, away from the cluster f--- which seems to be Anaheim player development.

Gauthier wasn't a bad choice, given how weak that draft was, Mintyukov at #10 is the only player taken after him outperforming him so far, and he's not exactly been a world beater. You'd be hard pressed to make the case he's better (he is bigger) than Drysdale based on his performance so far.

So we can stop with the "trade was a fiasco" script, it was basically my disappointment for your disappointment deal with a high second thrown in.
 
I will never stop chuckling that Gauthier was actually drafted by the Flyers, where they were geniuses - and he was the next best thing.

To now being a POS who’s game won’t translate to the NHL.

That bad man Fletcher, who didn’t rely on collaboration - was the one who forced him on the Flyers.
 
deadhead said:
They didn't run Gauthier all game, there were no dirty hits on him.

They hit him every time he had the puck b/c that's what they're taught to do on the forecheck, and they separated him from the puck a few times.

Gauthier has raw talent, of course, so does Drysdale.
What became obvious watching this game is both players are gambles that they'll ever turn that raw talent into superior production.

Gauthier should eventually learn to be more aggressive and turn his shot into goals, but I don't think I'd trade Foerster straight up for him, even though Gauthier has more raw talent.

And Drysdale is improving under Shaw's tutalege, away from the cluster f--- which seems to be Anaheim player development.

Gauthier wasn't a bad choice, given how weak that draft was, Mintyukov at #10 is the only player taken after him outperforming him so far, and he's not exactly been a world beater. You'd be hard pressed to make the case he's better (he is bigger) than Drysdale based on his performance so far.

So we can stop with the "trade was a fiasco" script, it was basically my disappointment for your disappointment deal with a high second thrown in.
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The trade was a fiasco. The Flyers completely screwed up a situation with a top prospect. A player who was a Hobey Baker finalist and named the best player in the WJC. You're comparing a player who has played 178 games to a player who has played 42. I have strong doubts that Drysdale ever becomes much but there is still a chance. Gauthier has every opportunity to become an impact player. When you look at the entire picture, it's a complete clusterf*** of incompetence by the Flyers. Do you know what needs to stop. This mirage and fantasy that Shaw is some great development coach. He is not.
 
deadhead said:
And Drysdale is improving under Shaw's tutalege, away from the cluster f--- which seems to be Anaheim player development.
Gauthier wasn't a bad choice, given how weak that draft was, Mintyukov at #10 is the only player taken after him outperforming him so far, and he's not exactly been a world beater. You'd be hard pressed to make the case he's better (he is bigger) than Drysdale based on his performance so far.

So we can stop with the "trade was a fiasco" script, it was basically my disappointment for your disappointment deal with a high second thrown in.
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No. You will never be able to massage this or the Edmonton trade into a positive. Hindsight is irrelevant to the process if we're serious about our evaluations.

I do not understand how you can expect anyone to take framing Gauthier as a disappointment on the day of the trade seriously. He hadn’t hit the point where he could fail yet. You had a full ELC landing strip to go. That was the whole point.
 
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CerpinTaxt said:
Lots of negativity for the team when they are up 2-0.

Oh yea almost forgot :sarcasm:
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They beat bad teams and lose to good to decent teams. Nothing to get excited about regarding this game. A win should be expected...
 
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