4 Nations Cup Discussion - Canada Wins

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Are you excited about 4 Nations Cup?

  • Yes

    Votes: 80 33.5%
  • No

    Votes: 65 27.2%
  • Indifferent

    Votes: 90 37.7%
  • Other: Explain your reasoning with a post

    Votes: 4 1.7%

  • Total voters
    239
He is a spatial awareness wizard. That's his big skill because little guys need awareness to survive. Not many guys his size can hack the NHL.

He did really well and was a big part of winning it for us. Binnington was MVP that game was over without him.

Why do people talk about him like he’s Nathan Gerbe’s underfed little brother, the guy is 6’0 180. Put on 10 pounds and he’s basically the same size as Bennett. He needs to think the game because he doesn’t have the straight line speed to quickly make up for a misread.
 
Marner in the corner near the goal line wasn't a threat at all. Some light pressure by Fox would've been fine, but there was no need for Matthews to jump in and leave the dangerous slot wide open. If Nelson comes in to help, then it leaves Makar wide open for the backdoor

Only Fox was out of position initially because he tried to stop the puck, but he was going towards Marner in the end.

At the moment Matthews needs to decide if he’s going to pressure Marner or not, you can see him look over his shoulder toward the US goal. At this point in time Fox is still behind Hellebuyck and hasn’t come into Matthews’ vision.

Some light pressure from Fox would have been likely fine, as you say, but Matthews had to make the choice based on the fact it didn’t appear to be coming.

Ultimately he got burned, so mistake made, but it was an understandable decision.
 
I am already wondering what the 2026 Canada Roster looks like in the end.
This tourney provided a lot of good insight for management going forward.

Not sure if the some of older players are going to make it for 2026.
The Dcore I can’t see changing.

Forwards if you have 20 plus goals and can play 2 way hockey you make the team. I think you’ll see a few changes up front. I think you may change 3 or 4 guys out depending. Hagel has 25 goals again you’re not leaving him off the team. Maybe Marchand and Stone. It’s a bigger taxi squad so there might 3 extra forwards. Celebrini is a yes unless a he’s struggling. Elliotte made a great point every guy has to be able to play 2 ways. Unless Bedard figures that out I don’t think you see him the pace would have killed him in the 4 Nations. Celebrini plays a far more mature game at this stage.

Goalies Binnington is in and the fight for the other 2 spots in open.
 
I'm glad the wannabe Olympics is finally over.

It was better than I thought. But not worth stopping two weeks of real hockey for. I mean, let's face it, the final resembled a normal average hockey game more than it did a playoffs game.

I really hope this isn't gonna be a yearly thing.

If that's the case it would be better played in the offseason. Then if someone gets hurt they have time to heal before the playoffs. It would be a good way to keep interest in the sport high too.

As a one hit wonder it was a huge success.

Gotta question how much fans and owners would still be into it in a few years though. Florida can't be happy their MVP might be out long term. Fan interest came mainly from the fact there haven't been NHL players in the Olympics for a while.

I don't see the wannabe Olympics having the same allure for players and fans as a gold medal from the actual Olympics does.
 
He should have stayed to prevent McDavid from having a clear, uncontested slot shot.

Making a mistake because someone else made a mistake isn't the best approach.

Anyway, I think he did Canada a big one there.
We should appreciate the goodwill gesture.

:sarcasm:

I believe the phrase you're looking for there is " Two wrongs don't make a right", as it seems quite applicable here. :wg:
 
:laugh:

Tavares didn't see the McDavid goal on Thursday night.

"I went to bed after the third period,"
the father of three said with sheepish smile. "I turned it on this morning. My kids get up at the same time. You never know how long the game is going to go with how well both teams were playing, how tight the game was."

Overtime started at 11:15 pm and the routine-oriented Tavares was already pushing it.

"Usually I like to get to bed a little bit earlier," the 34-year-old said. "You definitely stay up, but then once you go to OT it's not like what we saw Saturday with 3-on-3 [between Canada and Sweden], and it's 10 minutes [long]. That's the nice thing about DVR. I was able to tape it and then wake up and watch the end of it with my family."

Tavares is as detailed a player as you'll find and sleep is a crucial component of staying in top shape and fending off Father Time.

"I love as much as I can get," he said. "There's nights that are better than others, but any time you can get a good solid eight hours it puts you up for success. I wouldn't say I got quite that, but I was happy I got what I got and saw a good result when I woke up."
 
Two players that really stuck out to me in the 4 Nations tournament were Slavin and Granlund. Slavin I always knew was really good but seeing him against the best players in the world and he was incredible. Granlund I always thought was a meh vanilla player but he was dangerous every game for Finland. Making me reconsider whether he’d be a worthwhile target for trade deadline.
 
Shouldn’t those two be worth more than 14?

Great question.

Without a Salary Cap, how much could the elite players command in the NHL?

IMO, without revenue sharing and no Salary Cap, McDavid and Matthews could easily hit $25mm.

Leafs - Matthews:
Revenue sharing 6.055%*$320MM = $19mm, without taking into account the $12mm they are paying after the revenue sharing.

Perhaps each team should have a "franchise" label for 1 player?
 
Great question.

Without a Salary Cap, how much could the elite players command in the NHL?

IMO, without revenue sharing and no Salary Cap, McDavid and Matthews could easily hit $25mm.

Leafs - Matthews:
Revenue sharing 6.055%*$320MM = $19mm, without taking into account the $12mm they are paying after the revenue sharing.

Perhaps each team should have a "franchise" label for 1 player?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Paul would lose his mind if that player was not his son.
 

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